#3 Notre Dame vs. #1 Kentucky (Elite 8)

[loomis41973]

Agreed, he was scoring 2, might as well make him shoot 2 to get 2.

Exactly

 

[IrishLax]

Stop what? Team played great. Brey failed again at the end of the game and a bit before.

Pretty clear Bonzie should have been in more at the end and a mis-used t/o. Not to mention a poor last play call among other miscues by the coaching staff. These kids played their hearts out.

Stop having irrational standards for basketball coaching. It literally makes no sense. You point at minor discrete examples of how something didn't quite go according to plan and say Brey "failed." You use laughably perfect hindsight to make absurdly harsh critiques of coaches. If you applied similar critiques to other coaches, then every single coach fails in every single game.

The gameplan was unconvential and worked extremely well all night. To sh*t on Brey because he coached 98% of the game right but you don't agree with some timeout usage because it didn't have intended effect is so annoying and I'm not having it tonight.

 

[IrishSteelhead]

This one is gonna sting for awhile. The fact it was the most reviled program that won makes it worse. My only aspiration for the tourney was to see Kentucky lose, so watching ND of all teams let one slip through their fingers feels like a stomach punch.

 

[Rhode Irish]

Hold your heads up, ND. Not a huge ND basketball fan, but I have been the last couple weeks. I know it stings, but nothing to be ashamed of tonight. The whole country was with you guys tonight.

 

[dang227]

God I want Wisconsin to win

 

[loomis41973]

Stop having irrational standards for basketball coaching. It literally makes no sense. You point at minor discrete examples of how something didn't quite go according to plan and say Brey "failed." You use laughably perfect hindsight to make absurdly harsh critiques of coaches. If you applied similar critiques to other coaches, then every single coach fails in every single game.

The gameplan was unconvential and worked extremely well all night. To sh*t on Brey because he coached 98% of the game right but you don't agree with some timeout usage because it didn't have intended effect is so annoying and I'm not having it tonight.

Not shitting on anyone...
The 2% is what matters and why we don't win these games. Horrible time out call...damn near high school level. Not putting in Bonzie and the last play call are all reasons ND lost. Kids gave it their all. If you don't agree it's time to move on. I won't change my opinion and have more than a few that agree. Brey is a good coach and a great guy but he failed down the stretch here

 

[Grahambo]

Its simple:

Kentucky talent > ND talent

The mere fact that ND was able to toss up a 3 point shot for a win is nothing short of something to be proud of. Easy to sit back and criticize and my one arm chair QB critique would be Grant avoiding contact on that last shot.

This was by far one of the best basketball seasons that ND has ever seen. Look at all the teams they have beaten so while you want to sit there and blame Brey for it, go ahead as I'm sure he would want you to but his coaching is also why they lost by 2 to the greatest team in the last 25 years and quite possibly ever.

 

[Rhode Irish]

The 2% is what matters and why we don't win these games. Horrible time out call...damn near high school level. Not putting in Bonzie and the last play call are all reasons ND lost. Kids gave it their all. If you don't agree it's time to move on. I won't change my opinion and have more than a few that agree. Brey is a good coach and a great guy but he failed down the stretch here

As a mostly neutral observer, I totally get the need to vent right now, but just know that you sound like a crazy person. Brey put this whole thing together and very nearly took down a team that will end the season as the undefeated national champions, and one of the best college teams of all time.

 

[Sherm Sticky]

He simply calls a spade a spade. Doesn't sugar coat and is just honest.

Great point. He doesn't have any favoritism. Also he is brilliant.


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[Grahambo]

Great point. He doesn't have any favoritism. Also he is brilliant.


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Thats exactly part of his brilliance. Wish he called football games too.

 

[wizards8507]

160 days until Texas.

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[phgreek]

Stop having irrational standards for basketball coaching. It literally makes no sense. You point at minor discrete examples of how something didn't quite go according to plan and say Brey "failed." You use laughably perfect hindsight to make absurdly harsh critiques of coaches. If you applied similar critiques to other coaches, then every single coach fails in every single game.

The gameplan was unconvential and worked extremely well all night. To sh*t on Brey because he coached 98% of the game right but you don't agree with some timeout usage because it didn't have intended effect is so annoying and I'm not having it tonight.

You can bet people in Kentucky's path the rest of the way will be looking at this game...and using some things they see, because Brey's game plan showed ways to get to Kentucky.

...believed they could win, sad they lost, but WoW! Great team.

 

[loomis41973]

As a mostly neutral observer, I totally get the need to vent right now, but just know that you sound like a crazy person. Brey put this whole thing together and very nearly took down a team that will end the season as the undefeated national champions, and one of the best college teams of all time.

Guess you missed the 2% part and why we normally don't do well come tournament time. I love Brey, not a coach in America that could do better with what he has in the regular season.

 

[IrishLax]

The 2% is what matters and why we don't win these games. Horrible time out call...damn near high school level. Not putting in Bonzie and the last play call are all reasons ND lost. Kids gave it their all. If you don't agree it's time to move on. I won't change my opinion and have more than a few that agree. Brey is a good coach and a great guy but he failed down the stretch here

The 2% is NOT why ND lost. ND lost because Kentucky is a super team that didn't miss a shot from the field in the last 10:30 of the game ... the game was close because Mike Brey drastically out coached Calipari and elevated mediocre talent to a high level.

You don't know Colson would've done better, and you would've been without Auguste for offense. Those timeouts were called for various reasons ... such as trying to get them to get back to running the offense after they started stagnating ... and even if they were in hindsight the wrong tactical move that's a minute impact on the overall game.

You ignore the principal reasons for why the team got an L in favor of ones that validate your deep-seeded feelings on Brey. And worse, you devalue all the great he does and expect literal perfection in every aspect of coaching, which is an impossible bar no coaches reach.

 

[Redbar]

Great game, we were so close, heartbroken for the guys and yet could not be more proud of them and the job Coach Brey did. Really awesome that Jerian and Pat came back for their senior years, and gave probably the greatest season in Notre Dame Basketball history to their fellow classmates, all the fans, and the program in general. Good on you boys! Many thanks from a grateful fan!

Auguste, DJ, Vasturia, Bonzi, VJ...it's your turn. All hands on deck.

 

[yankeeND]

My heart hurts for the team. What an incredible season! Gonna miss Pat sorely next year. The season was a complete success and hopefully it will translate in recruiting as well. Brey is really building something special, just a lite more depth and I think he'll make a Final Four or two in his time here.

 

[NDinTEXAS]

Kentucky's coach had his team slowing down the Irish and it worked to a tee. If Notre Dame could have sped this game up a little more it would have been there win!

 

[loomis41973]

The 2% is NOT why ND lost. ND lost because Kentucky is a super team that didn't miss a shot from the field in the last 10:30 of the game ... the game was close because Mike Brey drastically out coached Calipari and elevated mediocre talent to a high level.

You don't know Colson would've done better, and you would've been without Auguste for offense. Those timeouts were called for various reasons ... such as trying to get them to get back to running the offense after they started stagnating ... and even if they were in hindsight the wrong tactical move that's a minute impact on the overall game.

You ignore the principal reasons for why the team got an L in favor of ones that validate your deep-seeded feelings on Brey. And worse, you devalue all the great he does and expect literal perfection in every aspect of coaching, which is an impossible bar no coaches reach.

I wouldn't call a single player on ND mediocre. Sorry you feel that way....they are some of the most talented men in the country. Guess that's another way to try and slam me as you usually try and do.

I do KNOW that Bonzie could have fouled and made them earn the points on the line instead of stepping back (Auguste) and letting them have it.

I don't know what you think my "deep seeded feelings" are on Mike Brey but it's great comedy to see you try. Mike is a great coach and a great person but made a couple errors at critical times tonight.

 

[philipm31]

I agree. He slid into it. A noncall would have been wrong. The last three possessions lost this game for us.

Absolutely.

Too much hero ball the last two minutes.

They were playing as a TEAM and just executing beautifully until the last four possessions.

But that was a fantastic game, from start to finish.

 

[KPENN]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>So glad NCAA allows the amateur "student-athletes" to model official licensed gear, available for sale right now, without any violation.</p>— Jay Bilas (@JayBilas) <a href="https://twitter.com/JayBilas/status/582024638961713152">March 29, 2015</a></blockquote>
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[loomis41973]

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Who dat? Would it have made a difference in the outcome?

 

[returnofthemack]

Great game by our players. Auguste stepped up in an incredible way and outplayed a potential #1 draft pick. Grant's last shots were not all on him. That's been Brey's strategy for a while near the end of games to dribble out the shot clock - I hate it. When Grant's dribbling way out near halfcourt until there are 10 seconds left, he won't be able to drive in or kick it out easily because of Kentucky's length, and he has to take an off-balance 3. The last shot was not his fault in any way. We had no timeouts left and he did what he had to to try to win the game. And that shot was on line too, just too much power. I think I actually would have shit myself if that had gone in. Brey outcoached the hell out of that slimy f*cknugget, it's just his end of game strategy didn't work against them.

 

[Rocknes Ghost]

Great game. Heartbreaking end to the season. I'm really just sad to see Pat C and Grant graduate. Team will be solid next year but this was truly a great Notre Dame basketball team.

 

[returnofthemack]

Who dat? Would it have made a difference in the outcome?

It's a criticism of the NCAA for making money off of their gear while Kentucky's players supposedly aren't making any money and just love Kentucky so much that they are OK with going from being one of the top 20 players in the country to sitting on a bench until a used car salesman tells them to get on the court.

 

[loomis41973]

Great game. Heartbreaking end to the season. I'm really just sad to see Pat C and Grant graduate. Team will be solid next year but this was truly a great Notre Dame basketball team.

Gonna miss Pat but should have a great team.

 

[IrishLax]

I wouldn't call a single player on ND mediocre. Sorry you feel that way....they are some of the most talented men in the country. Guess that's another way to try and slam me as you usually try and do.

Who on ND would start for Kentucky? Who will get drafted above those Kentucky players? "Mediocre" is too strong of a word relative to the rest of the country, but not relative to Kentucky.

But you're right, it can't possibly be the content of your anti-Brey posts I have a problem with, it's that I want to "slam" you.

I do KNOW that Bonzie could have fouled and made them earn the points on the line instead of stepping back (Auguste) and letting them have it.

Towns was 8 for 11. He shoots 80% from the line. How exactly does the math work out for fouling him?

I don't know what you think my "deep seeded feelings" are on Mike Brey but it's great comedy to see you try. Mike is a great coach and a great person but made a couple errors at critical times tonight.

uhhhh ... maybe all of your posts in the tournament threads and this one? Not to mention regular season threads? It's always "Brey is a good guy but let me explain how he failed/screwed up/is holding the team back" ... been the same track on repeat for years.

If Brey "failed" how do you grade Calipari?

 

[Rocknes Ghost]

Gonna miss Pat but should have a great team.

Yeah it will be a good team. Thy will miss Pat more then Grant I believe. He really brought a unique game and an incredible toughness. Allowed them to play different than everyone else because of his ability to guard a 4 and rebound.

They will be good next year and the future is bright. But this team is that close to being the best team in the country right now and that's not easy to field at ND (or anywhere). I'll certainly remember this run and team a long time. Dreamed about this kind of team while sleeping on the grate by Gate 11 of the JACC to keep warm...this was a special group.

 

[Rocknes Ghost]

Also- it was hard not to have some doubts about Brey and whether he could get a team to perform at this level given all of the bad losses (some might even say choking) ND hoops had had in the tourney with Brey before. I certainly doubted and te Iowa State game was the low point.

But he shook all of those demons this year and I'm fully behind him. He was able to get this team playing great when it mattered and we saw the really good side of his coaching style. You're going to have guys make some mistakes but they could also play at a very high level. I have to think recruits will really take notice this year because guys want to play free.

Great season, coach.

 

[loomis41973]

Who on ND would start for Kentucky? Who will get drafted above those Kentucky players? "Mediocre" is too strong of a word relative to the rest of the country, but not relative to Kentucky.

But you're right, it can't possibly be the content of your anti-Brey posts I have a problem with, it's that I want to "slam" you.



Towns was 8 for 11. He shoots 80% from the line. How exactly does the math work out for fouling him?



uhhhh ... maybe all of your posts in the tournament threads and this one? Not to mention regular season threads? It's always "Brey is a good guy but let me explain how he failed/screwed up/is holding the team back" ... been the same track on repeat for years.

If Brey "failed" how do you grade Calipari?

When Auguste does nothing more than step away that's a 100% conversion rate.....at least make him shoot the f/t's and save some energy for us since we are only 7 deep.

Not sure i've posted in regular season threads anything against Brey...but keep reaching.

I did post on ONE postseason game other than this about his poor game plan...luckily the "mediocre" players pulled that one out.

Probably best if you put me on ignore since you don't like my opinions. Just a thought

 

[loomis41973]

Also- it was hard not to have some doubts about Brey and whether he could get a team to perform at this level given all of the bad losses (some might even say choking) ND hoops had had in the tourney with Brey before. I certainly doubted and te Iowa State game was the low point.

But he shook all of those demons this year and I'm fully behind him. He was able to get this team playing great when it mattered and we saw the really good side of his coaching style. You're going to have guys make some mistakes but they could also play at a very high level. I have to think recruits will really take notice this year because guys want to play free.

Great season, coach.

Agree. Been a great season with great wins. Hope MB has turned the corner...he deserves it.