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wizards8507 said:
Idk, doesn't look like he's going that fast to me.

Let's assume Cap is falling at an acceleration of 9.8 m/s/s from a height of 1.83 meters

(Final Velocity) ^ 2 = (Initial Velocity) ^ 2 + 2 * (Gravity) * (Distance)

Initial Velocity = 0

(Final Velocity) ^ 2 = 2 * (Gravity) * (Distance)

(Final Velocity) ^ 2 = 2 * 9.8 * 1.83

Final Velocity = sqrt(35.868)

Final Velocity = 6 m/s

Time = (Final Velocity - Initial Velocity) / (Acceleration)

Time = (6 - 0) / 9.8

Time = 0.6 seconds

So if it took Cap 0.6 seconds to fall, Quicksilver really didn't get that far for all his super speed. A sound wave would have traveled 204 meters in that time, and he was barely able to turn a corner and make it five feet.
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ACK!!!!! Quicksilver moves at a different speed RELATIVE to Cap. You can't calculate Caps speed in the frame of reference of Quicksilver. This analysis requires vector analysis in 3D as well. Additionally, there is no reason to think he is moving any faster than he has to in order to deliver a blow.
 
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Cackalacky said:
ACK!!!!! Quicksilver moves at a different speed RELATIVE to Cap. You can't calculate Caps speed in the frame of reference of Quicksilver. This analysis requires vector analysis in 3D as well.
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The only inputs necessary to calculate Cap's fall are his initial velocity (zero), height (six feet), and acceleration due to gravity (9.8 m/s/s). Those factors are all independent of the Quicksilverian point of reference.

What if you were riding ON Quicksilver? Would time dilation cause Cap to appear to age in just a matter of moments? How would the Project Rebirth serum affect this?

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Additionally, there is no reason to think he is moving any faster than he has to in order to deliver a blow.
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Why not? Superhuman caloric conservation? I would imagine QS needs to eat quite a bit to keep up with the energy he expends.
 
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wizards8507 said:
The only inputs necessary to calculate Cap's fall are his initial velocity (zero), height (six feet), and acceleration due to gravity (9.8 m/s/s). Those factors are all independent of the Quicksilverian point of reference.

What if you were riding ON Quicksilver? Would time dilation cause Cap to appear to age in just a matter of moments? How would the Project Rebirth serum affect this?


Why not? Superhuman caloric conservation? I would imagine QS needs to eat quite a bit to keep up with the energy he expends.
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Lol... Smh. Time dilation is small for small velocities. Large for large velocities. Cap would be "falling" at his normal velocity according to his frame of reference so he would experience little time dilation at all. Similarly quicksilver would Experience no aging at all either relative to his frame of reference but does have more time dilation relative to CAP and to us the observer, because he would be moving faster than Cap and us which are stationary. So...not sure what you are getting at other than a fundamental misunderstanding of relative motion.
This also assumes that QS imparted no momentum to Cap with the punch, thereby increasing his velocity more closer to QS's. So there is that too.
 
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Cackalacky said:
Lol... Smh. Time dilation is small for small velocities. Large for large velocities. Cap would be "falling" at his normal velocity according to his frame of reference so he would experience little time dilation at all. Similarly quicksilver would Experience no aging at all either relative to his frame of reference but does have more time dilation relative to CAP and to us the observer, because he would be moving faster than Cap and us which are stationary. So...not sure what you are getting at other than a fundamental misunderstanding of relative motion.
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I'm not trying to get at anything other than "nerds doing calculations based on half-a-second of a trailer for a film that's not even complete yet to determine whether a super-powered individual is adequately or excessively super-powered is funny."

I'm a CPA, not a physicist. It was mostly (entirely) a joke.

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This also assumes that QS imparted no momentum to Cap with the punch, thereby increasing his velocity more closer to QS's. So there is that too.
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I was assuming a horizontal impact and then only calculating the time for Cap's vertical descent.
 
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I'm not trying to get at anything other than "nerds doing calculations based on half-a-second of a trailer for a film that's not even complete yet to determine whether a super-powered individual is adequately or excessively super-powered is funny."

I'm a CPA, not a physicist. It was mostly (entirely) a joke.


I was assuming a horizontal impact and then only calculating the time for Cap's vertical descent.
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All joking aside, a horizontal impact would impart horizontal momentum to cap and your calc only accounts for vertical movement (for future reference ;))

Also I just want the point out that at the end of that segment, quicksilver accelerates drastically relative to his initial movements so he is clearly not at top speed when he punches Cap.

I am just trying to help you out so you can sound more informed when discussing this with others nerds. Consider it me doing you a solid :)
 
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New Daredevil Trailer for Netflix series...comes on April 10th

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Just caught up with Agents of Shield. Man I love this show. It looks like the proposed story arch of Cap versus IronMan is making it's way to the small screen in the form of Fitzgerald versus Simmons. Also, what the hell are Mack and Bobby doing?
 
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Just caught up with Agents of Shield. Man I love this show. It looks like the proposed story arch of Cap versus IronMan is making it's way to the small screen in the form of Fitzgerald versus Simmons. Also, what the hell are Mack and Bobby doing?
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Right? I can't believe how good it's gotten ever since The Winter Soldier game out. It's a shame that it lost so many viewers due to its slow start.
 
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wizards8507 said:
Right? I can't believe how good it's gotten ever since The Winter Soldier game out. It's a shame that it lost so many viewers due to its slow start.
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Sounds like I'm going to have to start watching it again. I lost interest at the beginning of the new season.

I've been caught up in Gotham, The Flash.
 
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Gotta give it up to these guys, acting like heroes in real life

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Chris Evans And Chris Pratt Settle Bet With A Super Visit To Seattle Children's Hospital

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Chris Pratt And Chris Evans Visit Children's Hospital, Prove They're Real-Life Superheroes

I can't find it right now, but saw on Tumblr a few days ago someone had collected shots from these guys hospital visits along with those of Christian Bale, Henry Cavill and a few others that I can't remember of the top of my head

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Thought I would drop this off...

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I will have a hard time liking any Joker for the foreseeable future. Hopefully Leto can work some magic but Ledger's version was downright phenomenal.

Kinda off topic but I don't like Viola Davis as Waller. I mean I really don't like that casting decision.
 
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Viola Davis is the Perfect Amanda Waller. A strong powerful black woman. She even could play the government bureaucrat really well
 
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Viola Davis is the Perfect Amanda Waller. A strong powerful black woman. She even could play the government bureaucrat really well
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I am just saying I don't like Viola Davis. I think they could better.
 
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New TV spot for Avengers: Age of Ultron with a little new footage

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