'14 IN OLB/S Drue Tranquill (Notre Dame Man)

[tko]

sarcasm im sure

indeed

 

[kmoose]

This was mentioned in the USC thread, but it should be posted here as well: Tranquill played the entire 2nd half against UL on a torn ACL.

Soft...

 

[connor_in]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Freshman Drue Tranquill tore his ACL against Louisville.

<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NDFB?src=hash">#NDFB</a> <a href="http://t.co/5qRxaRFWNK">pic.twitter.com/5qRxaRFWNK</a></p>— The Turning Point (@TheIrishTP) <a href="https://twitter.com/TheIrishTP/status/537292341426810880">November 25, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Do we even have 11 players on defense healthy and not suspended?

NO ITALICS

 

[tadman95]

Wow, unbelievable. Hate it for Drue, just sucks. Just wow......

 

[Whiskeyjack]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Coach Kelly wasn't lying when he said Im ahead...I said the day of my surgery I would be recovered by Spring. Strength of the Lord is crazy&#55356;&#57152;</p>— ✈️ Drue Tranquill ✈️ (@d_TraNquill) <a href="https://twitter.com/d_TraNquill/status/571413625455419392">February 27, 2015</a></blockquote>
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[PANDFAN]

saw he was squatting 3 plates already...damn quick healer...must be all that tlc from his hot @ss gf

 

[IrishLax]

Must've been a minor tear given he played the rest of the game on it and has recovered so fast. I'm optimistic now that there will be no long term speed loss.

 

[mtnd15]

From talking with an orthopedic surgeon my understanding is there really is no such thing as a quick healer, at least not from ACL's. Slow healers are possible though. If its a full ACL tear people won't be back to pre-injury stability for at least 6 months, often more.

 

[NDdomer2]

Didn't AP come back from knee surgery after 6 months and win MVP with a sports hernia?

People heal differently, I don't see how that could be argued.

 

[IRISHDODGER]

From talking with an orthopedic surgeon my understanding is there really is no such thing as a quick healer, at least not from ACL's. Slow healers are possible though. If its a full ACL tear people won't be back to pre-injury stability for at least 6 months, often more.

i agree. I'm on my 3rd ACL on my right knee. Huge difference between a complete tear & a partial tear. My understanding is that a partial tear can be corrected via arthroscopy but a complete tear needs to be replaced via hamstring or patellar tendon or cadaver transplant.

did they ever say Tranquill's was a complete or partial tear?

 

[ShawneeIrish]

Didn't AP come back from knee surgery after 6 months and win MVP with a sports hernia?

People heal differently, I don't see how that could be argued.

I feel like I remember Jerry Rice tearing an ACL and returning end of the same season. I could be way off but my memory is he was 1st player to tear ACL and return same year.

 

[ShawneeIrish]

My memory was correct in Rice tearing his ACL and returning the same year, he tore his ACL week 1 and came back week 16. However, what I had failed to remember is he injured his knee again upon his return.

 

[mtnd15]

Didn't AP come back from knee surgery after 6 months and win MVP with a sports hernia?

People heal differently, I don't see how that could be argued.

Ya people might heal a little differently and rehab has a large impact on that as well as body size. However, there is a limit and 6 months is about the absolute quickest you can get back to full speed from my understanding. And to your point, Wiki says AP didn't actually start another NFL game until 8 months after surgery so that is a pretty normal time frame for a recovery. What I think is incredible is just how effective he was in his return with almost no lost explosion.

 

[Irish Glory]

i agree. I'm on my 3rd ACL on my right knee. Huge difference between a complete tear & a partial tear. My understanding is that a partial tear can be corrected via arthroscopy but a complete tear needs to be replaced via hamstring or patellar tendon or cadaver transplant.

did they ever say Tranquill's was a complete or partial tear?

He had a complete tear. I am also on my third acl in my right knee. Drue is obviously a freak of nature and has regained the strength in his leg muscles. However, it still takes time for the graft to become stronger. You could come back early and still be ok, but the risk is definitely higher.

 

[IrishLax]

He had a complete tear. I am also on my third acl in my right knee. Drue is obviously a freak of nature and has regained the strength in his leg muscles. However, it still takes time for the graft to become stronger. You could come back early and still be ok, but the risk is definitely higher.

How do you know this? I'm skeptical that he could've played an entire football game on a completely torn ACL.

 

[ThePiombino]

He had a complete tear. I am also on my third acl in my right knee. Drue is obviously a freak of nature and has regained the strength in his leg muscles. However, it still takes time for the graft to become stronger. You could come back early and still be ok, but the risk is definitely higher.

How do you know this? I'm skeptical that he could've played an entire football game on a completely torn ACL.

Yeah I'm gonna call BS on this too. No way he suffers a FULL tear and is doing 300+ lbs squats three months later.

 

[Cackalacky]

 

[ab2cmiller]

I'm assuming it was a full tear because in the original press conference where BK announced Drue's injury, he said they do the traditional patellar graft.

 

[IRISHDODGER]

I'm assuming it was a full tear because in the original press conference where BK announced Drue's injury, he said they do the traditional patellar graft.

Now that you post it, I remember BK saying that as well. The sad part is I couldn't remember which player he was referring too since they were dropping like flies. If he had the graft then he did in fact have a complete tear. Lucky for Tranquill, he gets the best procedure & rehab available. I had the patellar tendon graft & then a cadaver. Never tore them...they just failed. I'm assuming they got too stretched out and became detached w/in my knee capsule. Just laying there like a limp noodle.

 

[Irish Glory]

Yeah I'm gonna call BS on this too. No way he suffers a FULL tear and is doing 300+ lbs squats three months later.

I have talked to him and it was a complete tear. If you have strong leg muscles and don't do any damage to the knee other than the acl, it is possible. Also with recovery, if you get on your therapy right away and prevent muscle atrophy, your leg can be at 80-90% strength by 3 months. That doesn't mean that the acl is strong and healed, but squatting isn't something that you're going to hurt your acl doing.

 

[NDBoiler]

I have talked to him and it was a complete tear. If you have strong leg muscles and don't do any damage to the knee other than the acl, it is possible. Also with recovery, if you get on your therapy right away and prevent muscle atrophy, your leg can be at 80-90% strength by 3 months. That doesn't mean that the acl is strong and healed, but squatting isn't something that you're going to hurt your acl doing.

but you only have 24 posts so therefore you have no credibility.

 

[DonnieNarco]

Medical science is amazing.

 

[Cackalacky]

I have talked to him and it was a complete tear. If you have strong leg muscles and don't do any damage to the knee other than the acl, it is possible. Also with recovery, if you get on your therapy right away and prevent muscle atrophy, your leg can be at 80-90% strength by 3 months. That doesn't mean that the acl is strong and healed, but squatting isn't something that you're going to hurt your acl doing.

Aren't you the same poster who claimed an insider friend in South Florida who said Williams was goning to end up in Miami? Just curious.

 

[Irish Glory]

Aren't you the same poster who claimed an insider friend in South Florida who said Williams was goning to end up in Miami? Just curious.

Yes and I'm glad he was wrong. However I am a current student and am not lying. Obviously it doesn't really matter if you believe me or not, or if it was a full tear or not, as long Drue gets back to 100% and keeps balling out.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Yes and I'm glad he was wrong. However I am a current student and am not lying. Obviously it doesn't really matter if you believe me or not, or if it was a full tear or not, as long Drue gets back to 100% and keeps balling out.

Like the attitude!

May be a first; a poster that doesn't take another's seemingly critical question personally!

I am cautiously optimistic.

 

[IRISHDODGER]

I have talked to him and it was a complete tear. If you have strong leg muscles and don't do any damage to the knee other than the acl, it is possible. Also with recovery, if you get on your therapy right away and prevent muscle atrophy, your leg can be at 80-90% strength by 3 months. That doesn't mean that the acl is strong and healed, but squatting isn't something that you're going to hurt your acl doing.

You are correct in that respect. With strong quads & hammies, you can compensate for the loss of an ACL which is probably why he was able to finish the game despite the tear.

 

[scUM Hater]

How do strong quads and hammies compensate for an ACL tear? The ACL stabilizes the knee from from going side to side., correct? So if athletes have strong quads and hammies don't have the ACL surgery.

 

[PerthDomer]

MCL and LCL are lateral. ACL stops an anterior movement of the tibia in relation to the femur.

 

[Irish Glory]

How do strong quads and hammies compensate for an ACL tear? The ACL stabilizes the knee from from going side to side., correct? So if athletes have strong quads and hammies don't have the ACL surgery.

If you do a google search for athletes without acls you will see that players have been able to play through it before, although it is rare. However, no matter how strong you surrounding muscles are, having the acl reconstructed will provide more stability.

 

[IRISHDODGER]

How do strong quads and hammies compensate for an ACL tear? The ACL stabilizes the knee from from going side to side., correct? So if athletes have strong quads and hammies don't have the ACL surgery.

what IrishGlory said. I'll bet that Tranquill didn't just blow his knee out, I'll be he took a hit to his knee or got his foot caught in a pile and his knee bent the wrong way. Didn't Hines Ward play w/o at least one ACL? I seem to remember he had built up his upper legs so much that it provided the needed stability. Of course, as IG stated, it's better w/ an intact ACL