'15 GA S Arrington Farrar (Wisconsin Signee)

[Luckylucci]

I've always had him listed in the upshot thread as our best bet of the guys remaining. Going to be hard to pull Meadors from home and Reid had the odds stacked against us. Farrar? Open race and he cares about academics. As long as he visited you had to like our chances over anyone.

Still kills me that we didn't get Edwards.

When listening to the ISD podcast yesterday I kept going back to this. He should have been a priority the whole time. Similar to Reid these should have been players that we were recruiting the whole time.

 

[IrishLax]

does this portend bad news on the reid front or is this good news unrelated?

If Kelly leaves the Reid household tomorrow and you don't immediately hear promising reports then don't expect him to be Irish and we'll be all-in on Farrar... who sadly, IMO, fills a role that we have a lot of bodies at safety that can play but we still lack players with range for FS.

I'm really, really interested to see what happens with Butler and Ashton White.

 

[Domina Nostra]

If Kelly leaves the Reid household tomorrow and you don't immediately hear promising reports then don't expect him to be Irish and we'll be all-in on Farrar... who sadly, IMO, fills a role that we have a lot of bodies at safety that can play but we still lack players with range for FS.

I'm really, really interested to see what happens with Butler and Ashton White.

I'll say it again. There is no reason to leave either of those guys at the bottom of the CB depth chart in 2015, when they have the size to play safety.

I think we wanted Buncom--or thought we had a better shot with him--and slow-played Edwards a little. Huge mistake.

Sometimes I wonder if our super-honest approach, which helps us in a lot of situations, makes it harder to slow play.

 

[Ironman8]

I wish someone spent all fall prepping Prentice for standardized tests.

 

[Sherm Sticky]

I think White should come in as a safety and stay there for 4 to 5 years


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[Henges24]

Rivals has no clue. I'll sell my log in for a vbuck. it's good until Sept 2015.

All my vbucks are yours then.

 

[ResLife Hero]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Just finishing up at Woodward Academy,College ParkGA checking out top Jrs. Sr FS Arrington Farrar too close to call between WI and ND.</p>— Tom Lemming (@LemmingReport) <a href="https://twitter.com/LemmingReport/status/560934268390866944">January 29, 2015</a></blockquote>
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[Irish#1]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Just finishing up at Woodward Academy,College ParkGA checking out top Jrs. Sr FS Arrington Farrar too close to call between WI and ND.</p>— Tom Lemming (@LemmingReport) <a href="https://twitter.com/LemmingReport/status/560934268390866944">January 29, 2015</a></blockquote>
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It's time fellas.

 

[koonja]

Per the dinosaur Rivals, he's visiting with his Mother. Shut it down, game over, he's Irish. Fat lady has already sung.

NSD decision at 3pm EST.

 

[Nick Setta]

How do people evaluate his tape? People are saying he's more of a Strong rather than a free? I just wanna learn about why.

 

[Domina Nostra]

Too close to call BEFORE his visit with his mom. Lock him in.

If you had your heart set on Stanford, I think it would be a huge relief that ND wanted you. Its like expecting a free BMW 760i and ending up with the Mercedes E63 AMG.

How do people evaluate his tape? People are saying he's more of a Strong rather than a free? I just wanna learn about why.

IMO, he's the Greer Martini of safety prospects. He plays so deliberately, that its hard to tell if he's athletic or not.

He is very big and while he is not slow, he also doesn't look super fast or fly to the football. What he does is play like an instinctual defender, take good angles, hits hard, and makes clean tackles.

I agree that if we get him, Williams will be the FS and he'll be the SS.

 

[ColinKSU]

How do people evaluate his tape? People are saying he's more of a Strong rather than a free? I just wanna learn about why.

He's definitely an "in the box" safety, in that he's not at his best when he's backpedaling. He's a bigger, thicker kid who will be good running forward and playing the run, but he's not physically equipped as well to try to keep up with a fast receiver or play "center field" in passing situations.

Basically, he'll run up and hit you hard, but he won't gracefully run stride for stride with a receiver on a long pass attempt.

 

[IrishLax]

How do people evaluate his tape? People are saying he's more of a Strong rather than a free? I just wanna learn about why.

He lacks top end speed. He's not a rangy guy. He's extremely quick with a big frame though. His testing on shuttle was elite, and you can see on film how quickly he's able to change direction and attack the ball.

My biggest problem with his film is that for a 6'+ 200+ guy that projects as SS or OLB I don't understand why he's always diving at legs or how he's always getting taken for a ride by the ball carrier. Maybe Nicco Fertitta can teach him a thing or two.* If he can't play with more strength I don't see how he's a factor at either SS or OLB. The other knock on him is that he didn't improve much from junior to senior year. He's suffered drops on I think all the rating services as I think people were disappointed that he didn't fill out more or get faster.

*Although, preferably without all the blatant targeting Fertitta does on film lol

 

[NDPhilly]

Best part of his highlight tape is at 2:10 when he kills the holder.

He's already 6'2" 200+ before hitting a college weight room. He looks good in run defense but I wish he was a little quicker to diagnose things. Looks quick but lacking top end speed. I like DBs who play offense in HS because you can get a good read on their speed and ball skills. Kinda hard to tell with Farrar. He's good in run defense and has a big frame at the very least. I think he'll be a solid SS but unsure about his coverage abilities. Kinda hard to get a read on from that highlight tape.

Jennings and Farrar would have been a real nice FS and SS combo btw

 

[Wingman Ray]

Maybe more nickel as the replacement linebacker?

 

[bobbyok1]

My biggest problem with his film is that for a 6'+ 200+ guy that projects as SS or OLB I don't understand why he's always diving at legs or how he's always getting taken for a ride by the ball carrier.

Within the first 3 1/2 mins of film he caused 4 fumbles. I think that this is at least part of the tackling issue that we see with him. He is trying to stand guys up to strip the ball, probably too often. You see a failed attempt at this around the 5:45 mark. On the other hand, he goes for the lower legs of a guy WAY too often in that film. I'm not sure if that comes from a belief that he can take them down that way easier or what, but it is a bad habit he'll have to be broken of at the college ranks. I'm not sure if strength is his issue or not, hard to say at this point. But let's hope he is not afraid of contact, because that won't fly at SS or LB.

 

[BeauBenken]

Within the first 3 1/2 mins of film he caused 4 fumbles. I think that this is at least part of the tackling issue that we see with him. He is trying to stand guys up to strip the ball, probably too often. You see a failed attempt at this around the 5:45 mark. On the other hand, he goes for the lower legs of a guy WAY too often in that film. I'm not sure if that comes from a belief that he can take them down that way easier or what, but it is a bad habit he'll have to be broken of at the college ranks. I'm not sure if strength is his issue or not, hard to say at this point. But let's hope he is not afraid of contact, because that won't fly at SS or LB.

I think he failed to breakdown before tackling in the open field so you see him diving in low to make tackles. He's out of position to square the guy up. However in some of these instances, he really doesn't have the chance to square up because he has to disengage/ride a blocker and then make the tackle. In those circumstances, I have no problem with him getting them at the legs. I at least prefer it to tackling high (which as you pointed out) he also likes to do.

 

[TheChosen1]

It's La la la la la not Fa rar rar rar rar

 

[SoJerseyIrish]

If he wants to see with field at Wisky or ND......he will have to tackle, I am not too worried about a HS kid not tackling well, you never know how much time they spend on fundamentals, etc.

 

[MartyIrish]

If he wants to see with field at Wisky or ND......he will have to tackle, I am not too worried about a HS kid not tackling well, you never know how much time they spend on fundamentals, etc.

Exactly. However, sometimes it goes deeper than that. A kid just doesn't WANT to tackle (believe it or not, they do exist...hoping this isn't the case) or doesn't spend enough time on the craft.

But as others have said, college coaches will get ahold of him (already a great frame) and he'll get all the coaching he needs.

 

[Luckylucci]

Wiltfong expects him in at 7pm this evening.

 

[OCIrish]

Wiltfong expects him in at 7pm this evening.

Well.......has he committed yet???

 

[Big23Head]

Arrington Farrar Has Arrived In South Bend

 

[L-cart ND-ana]

I would be concerned with the snow storm on its way to slam South Bend, but its between ND and Wisonsin. Not a lot of places where winters suck more than South Bend but Wisonsin is one of those places.

 

[GBdomer]

I would be concerned with the snow storm on its way to slam South Bend, but its between ND and Wisonsin. Not a lot of places where winters suck more than South Bend but Wisonsin is one of those places.

I think he understands it's going to snow in South Bend or Wisconsin. Not trying to sound like an asshole I just don't understand what you mean.

 

[L-cart ND-ana]

I think he understands it's going to snow in South Bend or Wisconsin. Not trying to sound like an asshole I just don't understand what you mean.

I am saying I would be worried if it were a recruiting battle between ND and another school located in a warmer climate. But the fact that ND is heads up against Wisconsin it does not worry me because winters are more brutal up North in Wisconsin, or at the very least very similar.

I think we are on the same page on this one.

 

[dublinirish]

lol quite funny to think that ND might be pitching weather against Wisconsin

 

[TheTurningPoint]

I think he is a good prospect, but doesnt have the ceiling Reid or Meadors have. He isnt the elite guy, but Redfield and Shumate were considered elite and they have had many ups and downs. Farrar is a smart football player. He is out of position some, but you will have that when you have superior athletic abilities to everyone else on the field. He has the vision and football smarts to easily get better at the next level with this.

I think it would he would be a good pickup for the Irish and gives them a SS that can do everything BVG wants in a SS. He can blitz, play the run and he is aggressive in coverage. He has a lot of talent to work with and to shape.

The difference between Reid, Meadors and Farrar is that Farrar isnt going to get a ton bigger or explosive. Meadors has a body frame to add weight and that will only enhance his great speed and athleticism. Reid is closer to Farrar in that they both are physically advanced, but Reid is a little more explosive in close quarters in my opinion.

But, overall Farrar would definitely be a big a pickup for ND and he would definitely help in the redzone being a bigger guy that can get physical.

 

[koonja]

I think he is a good prospect, but doesnt have the ceiling Reid or Meadors have. He isnt the elite guy, but Redfield and Shumate were considered elite and they have had many ups and downs. Farrar is a smart football player. He is out of position some, but you will have that when you have superior athletic abilities to everyone else on the field. He has the vision and football smarts to easily get better at the next level with this.

I think it would he would be a good pickup for the Irish and gives them a SS that can do everything BVG wants in a SS. He can blitz, play the run and he is aggressive in coverage. He has a lot of talent to work with and to shape.

The difference between Reid, Meadors and Farrar is that Farrar isnt going to get a ton bigger or explosive. Meadors has a body frame to add weight and that will only enhance his great speed and athleticism. Reid is closer to Farrar in that they both are physically advanced, but Reid is a little more explosive in close quarters in my opinion.

But, overall Farrar would definitely be a big a pickup for ND and he would definitely help in the redzone being a bigger guy that can get physical.

One thing I like about him is, he's physically the most put together IMO, and that includes Reid (although he's right there). Since whoever we sign will see the field this year, that matters.

On your point about being football smart, I know Farrar had great shuttle scores, but is slow for a safety. Can he finally be the first ND safety since Harrison Smith to diagnose and take the right angle, making up for his lack of speed?

If so, I would love that. Seems every safety we've had recently has either been slow and/or taking really bad angles which just exasperate their slowness. If Farrar can diagnose and take the right angle, we might never see him as slow.

 

[GoldenDomer]

One thing I like about him is, he's physically the most put together IMO, and that includes Reid (although he's right there). Since whoever we sign will see the field this year, that matters.

On your point about being football smart, I know Farrar had great shuttle scores, but is slow for a safety. Can he finally be the first ND safety since Harrison Smith to diagnose and take the right angle, making up for his lack of speed?

If so, I would love that. Seems every safety we've had recently has either been slow and/or taking really bad angles which just exasperate their slowness. If Farrar can diagnose and take the right angle, we might never see him as slow.