'12 NV OT Ronnie Stanley (Notre Dame Signed LOI)

[irishknight35]

He might be in the top 10 of the Tackles taken in 2015 but he has the chance to the #1 tackle after another year of seasoning. He is young but has 2 years of starting experience but there are a lot of really good tackles in the draft this year. The Tackle class looks deep and has almost all Redshirt Juniors or Seniors with the exception of Andrus Peat and Stanley. He could be picked up early based on talent alone but could drop due to lack of consistency.

 

[IrishLax]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>RT <a href="https://twitter.com/Rand_Getlin">@Rand_Getlin</a>: While he hasn't made any official declarations yet, multiple sources believe <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Stanford?src=hash">#Stanford</a> OT Andrus Peat will enter the draft.</p>— Bryan Fischer (@BryanDFischer) <a href="https://twitter.com/BryanDFischer/status/552147785244344320">January 5, 2015</a></blockquote>
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Going back on early indications of returning.

 

[Sherm Sticky]

Interesting.

 

[irishfan]

He should stay. The difference in salary between being drafted 10th overall, and going 10th in the 2nd round is huge (those are obviously very rough, but accurate IMO, estimates of where he go in 2016 vs. 2015).

Last year, Ebron got taken 10th overall. Including bonuses, he got a 4 year deal for $12,249,149. It is all guaranteed money.

Last year, Jordan Matthews got taken 42nd overall. Inlcuding bonuses, he got a 4 year deal for $4,949,269. Only $2,984,435 is guaranteed.

He should stay in school, take out insurance, improve his draft stock, and make substantially more in his rookie contract. He doesn't get to his second contract until 2020 instead of 2019 (the main argument agents have for telling players to declare early), but he makes an extra 7.3 million and earns his degree....not the toughest decision.

 

[zelezo vlk]

All it would take for Stanley to fall to the mid-rounds is another offseason injury preventing him from adding strength. Scouts love his athleticism and his long arms, but do not love the lack of strength. Stick around, lift, have a great '15 season, then ride off into the sunset with your degree.

 

[Grahambo]

This is true.

However, it's also very true that he'd be absurdly over-drafted at that point and he has potential to fall all the way out of the second round.

His film is flat out not that good. It just isn't. Got beat a lot this year for someone projected to be a top pick. He's more likely to do a Nix/Tuitt and free fall than he is to have the Redskins over-draft him.

I'm really not. And if you're referring to grades from the PFF site, it's my understanding that those guys suck. Some guys more knowledgeable than I have explained why their grading isn't in line with how most people grade players... whereas MGOBLOG does a fantastic job of grading each of their games for contrast... but I can't remember the specifics, just that they suck and it's rarely in line with how scouts grade the games. Go look at their laughably high grades for Stanford's line, etc. in their game against ND for a good illustration of them being off.

FWIW, Coach D, Mike Frank, and others I've read who truly cover Notre Dame and watch every snap multiple times have similar opinions to mine on Stanley. And after they hit the nail on the head with Zack Martin saying he was undervalued and then explaining exactly why he'd kick ass in the NFL I tend to listen to them.

Pretty much spot on.

From what I've read around the interwebs is that he needs to come back. Its coming from the same scouts/analysts that said Zack Martin would be a good tackle but a great guard and look what happened, kid is a 1st-team All-Pro his rookie year.

The problem is he would be drafted on what he COULD become (potential) and not what he should be coming into the league as a high round draft pick. The NFL doesn't have time for that anymore as coaches need Zack Martin/Odell Beckham type picks more-so then a project like Stanley, especially in the first couple rounds. The reps he would gain by coming back would be more valuable to him then for him to be sitting on the bench, getting backup reps. He needs to play every game like he did the LSU game.

As for the perceived notion of get your money now: (Just my opinion) The idea is to last longer then your first contract and becoming a bust is a fast way out of the league and a fast way to becoming broke. And you become a bust by going into the league unprepared.

 

[PANDFAN]

loy has an update...anyone

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

loy has an update...anyone

Probably the same thing as Rotoworld (citing Rand Getlin) that Stanley is undecided and genuinely appears to be 50/50 on his decision.

 

[Rocket89]

loy has an update...anyone

Stanley is torn, got a good grade from NFL advisory board.

Staff is confident he's coming back and can be the No. 1 tackle in '16.

Thinks Stanley is going to come back.

 

[PANDFAN]

Stanley is torn, got a good grade from NFL advisory board.

Staff is confident he's coming back and can be the No. 1 tackle in '16.

Thinks Stanley is going to come back.

thanks man. with peat going pro he should

 

[arrowryan]

Per II, Stanley talked to Zach Martin and Martin strongly recommended that Stanley should come back next year. They are also speculating that he is getting a lot of pressure from his teammates to come back next year.

 

[PANDFAN]

Per II, Stanley talked to Zach Martin and Martin strongly recommended that Stanley should come back next year. They are also speculating that he is getting a lot of pressure from his teammates to come back next year.

awesome.thanks

 

[ndfi78]

Per II, Stanley talked to Zach Martin and Martin strongly recommended that Stanley should come back next year. They are also speculating that he is getting a lot of pressure from his teammates to come back next year.

 

[Ndaccountant]

 

[Luckylucci]

Per Irish247, as of today confidence is high that he returns next year. Talks with BK went really well. An announcement should be made very soon.

 

[ThePiombino]

Too soon.

 

[BleedBlueGold]

Thank goodness. I thought Ron would leave after seeing him do well against LSU. I personally felt he should come back and become stronger and more consistent. When Peat first said he was considering staying at Stanford, I thought Ron was all but gone. Then Peat decalred and I immediately had hope Ron would stay. I hope he stays. It'll be great for him and for ND.

 

[ThePiombino]

Per Irish247, as of today confidence is high that he returns next year. Talks with BK went really well. An announcement should be made very soon.

Dare I say the elisive 6 recruit? Or would he need to stay for his 5th year to earn that accolade?

 

[koonja]

Per Irish247, as of today confidence is high that he returns next year. Talks with BK went really well. An announcement should be made very soon.

Nice. McGlichey can play either tackle spot, right? Our starting RT next year then?

 

[IrishLax]

Nice. McGlichey can play either tackle spot, right? Our starting RT next year then?

Or starting LT with Zaire? How does that all work with a lefty?

 

[koonja]

Or starting LT with Zaire? How does that all work with a lefty?

I'm not sure what you're saying. I'm saying if Stanley returns, McGlichey can play RT just as easy as he'd play LT if Stanley left, right?

As in, both would start next year.

Or are you saying they'd switch spots?

 

[IrishLax]

I'm not sure what you're saying. I'm saying if Stanley returns, McGlichey can play RT just as easy as he'd play LT if Stanley left, right?

As in, both would start next year.

Or are you saying they'd switch spots?

What I'm wondering is do you still put your best tackle at LT if that's not the QB's blindside? Or do you put him at RT if you've got a lefty under center?

 

[NewBrunswickIrish]

I'm not sure what you're saying. I'm saying if Stanley returns, McGlichey can play RT just as easy as he'd play LT if Stanley left, right?

As in, both would start next year.

Or are you saying they'd switch spots?

Just that since Zaire is a lefty his blind side would be the opposite and so the right tackle would in essence be the LT

 

[PANDFAN]

Teams generally don't move a guy from right to left and vice versa just based on what hand the qb is unless it is a complete liability

UNLESS your building your team over in the NFL around a qb

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

I pray he stays healthy if he comes back. It's important for Stanley, for the program and for future recruiting.

If he continues to develop, he'll be a top-10 pick next year and that further cements what Hiestand is doing at ND. We'll continue to pull the best talent in the country and we'll all be happy.

 

[koonja]

What I'm wondering is do you still put your best tackle at LT if that's not the QB's blindside? Or do you put him at RT if you've got a lefty under center?

Just that since Zaire is a lefty his blind side would be the opposite and so the right tackle would in essence be the LT

I bet they keep Stanley at LT. Mcglinchey's been really good in the few moments he's been in I thought. I'd trust him to take care of Malik's blind side.

Plus, since it's an alleged open competition, no sense in messing with Stanley if Golson ends up the guy.

I say 'alleged' because every year BK's been here it's been an open competion, but we're 5/5 for knowing who the start will be and I really think it's Malik.

 

[yankeeND]

I pray he stays healthy if he comes back. It's important for Stanley, for the program and for future recruiting.

If he continues to develop, he'll be a top-10 pick next year and that further cements what Hiestand is doing at ND. We'll continue to pull the best talent in the country and we'll all be happy.

Agreed. This could boost an already very positive trend with the OL and ND. Nothing is better than molding 1st RD OL talent every year!

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

What I'm wondering is do you still put your best tackle at LT if that's not the QB's blindside? Or do you put him at RT if you've got a lefty under center?

My guess is Stanley will stay at LT.

If he comes back Kelly will probably be happy to make that concession in the interests of Stanley's NFL future.

 

[Irish#1]

Per II, Stanley talked to Zach Martin and Martin strongly recommended that Stanley should come back next year. They are also speculating that he is getting a lot of pressure from his teammates to come back next year.

Excellent news Arrow.

I can see justification for both scenarios if MZ is under center. Flipping Stanley could show the NFL of his versatility and probably our best opportunity to protect MZ. Having said that, there is something to be said about leaving a lineman where he's at. I'll go back to my tried and true example I've used over the years. If you had to start brushing your teeth with your opposite hand, you can do it, but you're a little slower at it and you have to think about it more. When you flip linemen to the opposite side, they have to change their plant foot and have to learn to rotate their hips the opposite way. Not impossible, but it takes a while to adjust and it still doesn't come as natural as playing the other side.

 

[IRISH in MT]

Stanley and Day are the biggest recruits we need to land right now. Great thing is they are already on campus so the recruiting should be very easy. I will be dissappointed if the coaches and teammates are not able to get these 2 to see the light and stay another year.