Who could be Notre Dame's Harbaugh???

[TheTurningPoint]

The answer is Charlie Weis Jr. I mean he had the headset on for 4 years and shoulda been calling plays at Kansas!

But on a serious note:


Bob Stoops.

Guy is in a similar situation that Kelly is in. Both have talent but are stuck in a rut. BK is frustrated with things out of his control and a lot of bad luck to be frank.

Stoops turned down Notre Dame in 2009 because he didnt want to build a program. Kelly has established a program and there is talent to win a Natl Title. Stoops knows this and should BK leave, Swarbrick can easily sell him on being a Natl Title contender now. Stoops then will have a 4-5 year gap where everything is lined up for him to have a great run.

He wont be at ND for 10+ years, nor is he the answer long term. But, name me someone better to hire if BK leaves in the next 1-2 years? Stoops gets a fresh start and a jumpstart in a new place. Then in 4-5 years, that allows a young hotshot coach to develop and Notre Dame can make a move on him with the program in a good spot. Aka Charlie Strong gets tired of Texas, Tom Herman lives up to the hype, Chuck Martin builds a name for himself at the D-1 level, etc.

 

[tko]

The answer is Charlie Weis Jr. I mean he had the headset on for 4 years and shoulda been calling plays at Kansas!

But on a serious note:


Bob Stoops.

Guy is in a similar situation that Kelly is in. Both have talent but are stuck in a rut. BK is frustrated with things out of his control and a lot of bad luck to be frank.

Stoops turned down Notre Dame in 2009 because he didnt want to build a program. Kelly has established a program and there is talent to win a Natl Title. Stoops knows this and should BK leave, Swarbrick can easily sell him on being a Natl Title contender now. Stoops then will have a 4-5 year gap where everything is lined up for him to have a great run.

He wont be at ND for 10+ years, nor is he the answer long term. But, name me someone better to hire if BK leaves in the next 1-2 years? Stoops gets a fresh start and a jumpstart in a new place. Then in 4-5 years, that allows a young hotshot coach to develop and Notre Dame can make a move on him with the program in a good spot. Aka Charlie Strong gets tired of Texas, Tom Herman lives up to the hype, Chuck Martin builds a name for himself at the D-1 level, etc.

you mean 1-2 days

 

[BobD]

Another unproven coach...at ANY level. Brilliant idea. Really.

You must have missed the part about "thinking way outside the box"? Or maybe you missed the OPs question "who could be NDs Harbaugh"?

I'm still trying to find any request for your opinion of other people's posts? I just went back and scanned through the thread.....you haven't offered an answer at all, just insulted others. Do better, stop acting like a loser.

 

[ThePiombino]

You must have missed the part about "thinking way outside the box"? Or maybe you missed the OPs question "who could be NDs Harbaugh"?

I'm still trying to find any request for your opinion of other people's posts? I just went back and scanned through the thread.....you haven't offered an answer at all, just insulted others. Do better, stop acting like a loser.

So we're getting personal now? Good to know, will keep in mind moving foward. As for the bolded, consider this- you mean nothing to me, yet you spent your free time researching my post history in this thread. Hilarious.

As for "thinking way outside the box" - doesn't change the fact that he would be a 1st-time head coach at any level. That sentiment reeks of insanity. Which part of the Weis experiment is unclear to you? Does ND strike you as the place for a 1st time D1 coach, let alone 1st time HC at any level? A legitimate "outside the box" thought would be to consider a non-P5 HC or maybe...MAYBE...a D2/3 HC. Come on man, use your head. NOTHING about Peyton Manning/ND is analogous to Harbaugh/UM. Not even close.

 

[oddz313]

Harbaugh

Harbaugh

Very few programs have a Jim Harbaugh running around out there.
Michigan got lucky that a loyal alum, who happens to be one of the ten best coaches in all of football, somehow got fired the same year their coach completely lost the handle on his program. That's all this is.

Thank you, I thought Meyer would have been a good fit but the timing was not right like it was for harbaugh to return to scUM. I think after next season if Kelly does not have a very impressive year than they really need to try and pry away someone from somewhere and make a big splash.

 

[ulukinatme]

The answer is Charlie Weis Jr. I mean he had the headset on for 4 years and shoulda been calling plays at Kansas!

But on a serious note:


Bob Stoops.

Guy is in a similar situation that Kelly is in. Both have talent but are stuck in a rut. BK is frustrated with things out of his control and a lot of bad luck to be frank.

Stoops turned down Notre Dame in 2009 because he didnt want to build a program. Kelly has established a program and there is talent to win a Natl Title. Stoops knows this and should BK leave, Swarbrick can easily sell him on being a Natl Title contender now. Stoops then will have a 4-5 year gap where everything is lined up for him to have a great run.

He wont be at ND for 10+ years, nor is he the answer long term. But, name me someone better to hire if BK leaves in the next 1-2 years? Stoops gets a fresh start and a jumpstart in a new place. Then in 4-5 years, that allows a young hotshot coach to develop and Notre Dame can make a move on him with the program in a good spot. Aka Charlie Strong gets tired of Texas, Tom Herman lives up to the hype, Chuck Martin builds a name for himself at the D-1 level, etc.

I really don't see Stoops leaving Oklahoma unless they force him out. He is setup at one of the better teams in the Big12, if not the best team long term. He has classes in the Top 10 and Top 15 every year, so the talent should be there. It would probably take a good deal of money to lure him away, he's already among the Top 3 in salaries according to USA Today, and we're certainly not going to pay him. There's also the fact his assistants make a huge chunk, we're likely not paying that either. So, unless Stoops has a few more 8-5 seasons, he's staying in Norman.

I'd love to have Charlie Strong, tbh. I got to meet him at ND's football camp back in '97 when he was the DL coach. He's a hard nose guy that you want to play for, but I honestly think because of that he'll have Texas humming along in a couple years. He culled the heard in his first year, trimmed the fat. It was an ugly year, but they'll be stronger and better in either 2015 or 2016. Given the fact it's Texas and they should have no trouble attracting talent (Nor paying the man), I don't see Charlie leaving Texas either unless he's can't turn them around and he's forced out. I'm banking on him being successful in the future though.

Tom Herman could work. ND would be a step up from Houston, but first we'd have to see how he handles that position. I wouldn't take him prior to 3 full years at Houston, I'd want to see how they handle the transition before going after him. As far as Martin, as you said, he certainly needs to have a few more seasons at Miami before I'd make a judgement call there. 2-10 is an improvement I guess over an 0-12 season in 2013, but we definitely need to see more before we give him a call. As far as other names, I'd like to see how Narduzzi does in the next 3 years, then go after him if he does well. Doc Holliday has built a good program at Marshall. I think Mark Hudspeth could work, he was an assistant under Dan Mullen, but he wouldn't be my first choice.

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

I really don't see Stoops leaving Oklahoma unless they force him out. He is setup at one of the better teams in the Big12, if not the best team long term. He has classes in the Top 10 and Top 15 every year, so the talent should be there. It would probably take a good deal of money to lure him away, he's already among the Top 3 in salaries according to USA Today, and we're certainly not going to pay him. There's also the fact his assistants make a huge chunk, we're likely not paying that either. So, unless Stoops has a few more 8-5 seasons, he's staying in Norman.

I'd love to have Charlie Strong, tbh. I got to meet him at ND's football camp back in '97 when he was the DL coach. He's a hard nose guy that you want to play for, but I honestly think because of that he'll have Texas humming along in a couple years. He culled the heard in his first year, trimmed the fat. It was an ugly year, but they'll be stronger and better in either 2015 or 2016. Given the fact it's Texas and they should have no trouble attracting talent (Nor paying the man), I don't see Charlie leaving Texas either unless he's can't turn them around and he's forced out. I'm banking on him being successful in the future though.

Tom Herman could work. ND would be a step up from Houston, but first we'd have to see how he handles that position. I wouldn't take him prior to 3 full years at Houston, I'd want to see how they handle the transition before going after him. As far as Martin, as you said, he certainly needs to have a few more seasons at Miami before I'd make a judgement call there. 2-10 is an improvement I guess over an 0-12 season in 2013, but we definitely need to see more before we give him a call. As far as other names, I'd like to see how Narduzzi does in the next 3 years, then go after him if he does well. Doc Holliday has built a good program at Marshall. I think Mark Hudspeth could work, he was an assistant under Dan Mullen, but he wouldn't be my first choice.

In the event a new HC becomes necessary, I do hope that Texas gets impatient with Strong and makes him available. I think he's a great coach and will do great things with that program. I just don't get the vibe that Texas appreciates the state the program was in when he took the reins.

 

[Chi_IRISH]

Going to be a GA at Northwestern

Tommy as HC -Calm quite leader, put up with a great deal of adversity and has a relationship with SBPD, A la Jimbo Fisher
Gunner Kiel OC- Has the lay of the recruiting land he's been everywhere, he will be a great QB so that ultimately means he will be a great offensive mind. Plus he will eventually beat up Les Miles. Street cred!
Aaron Lynch DC- Went through the trails and tribulations of life at ND and USF. Coached by Skip Holtz, ND connection and is a rough and tough SOB, just ask his former teammates!

Potential position coaches will be posted later when I've had more to drink😀

Go Irish, Beat LSU 🍀

 

[ulukinatme]

Tommy as HC -Calm quite leader, put up with a great deal of adversity and has a relationship with SBPD, A la Jimbo Fisher
Gunner Kiel OC- Has the lay of the recruiting land he's been everywhere, he will be a great QB so that ultimately means he will be a great offensive mind. Plus he will eventually beat up Les Miles. Street cred!
Aaron Lynch DC- Went through the trails and tribulations of life at ND and USF. Coached by Skip Holtz, ND connection and is a rough and tough SOB, just ask his former teammates!

Potential position coaches will be posted later when I've had more to drink😀

Go Irish, Beat LSU 🍀

You definitely have to work in Tee Shepard at DB coach, Davonte Neal at WR coach, and Vanderdoesn't as DL coach.

 

[Chi_IRISH]

You definitely have to work in Tee Shepard at DB coach, Davonte Neal at WR coach, and Vanderdoesn't as DL coach.

Great start! Neal v Greenberry as WR coach it's a toss up at this point.
Breaking: Justin Ferguson just put in for it as well.

We should be in charge of the bears search! Super Bowl or bust in 2015!

 

[blackirish]

I first thought of Bobby but Lyght was 2x All-American so I listed him instead. Taylor was a stud indeed!

Wasn't Bobby a Pro Bowler ?

 

[blackirish]

The answer is Charlie Weis Jr. I mean he had the headset on for 4 years and shoulda been calling plays at Kansas!

But on a serious note:


Bob Stoops.

Guy is in a similar situation that Kelly is in. Both have talent but are stuck in a rut. BK is frustrated with things out of his control and a lot of bad luck to be frank.

Stoops turned down Notre Dame in 2009 because he didnt want to build a program. Kelly has established a program and there is talent to win a Natl Title. Stoops knows this and should BK leave, Swarbrick can easily sell him on being a Natl Title contender now. Stoops then will have a 4-5 year gap where everything is lined up for him to have a great run.

He wont be at ND for 10+ years, nor is he the answer long term. But, name me someone better to hire if BK leaves in the next 1-2 years? Stoops gets a fresh start and a jumpstart in a new place. Then in 4-5 years, that allows a young hotshot coach to develop and Notre Dame can make a move on him with the program in a good spot. Aka Charlie Strong gets tired of Texas, Tom Herman lives up to the hype, Chuck Martin builds a name for himself at the D-1 level, etc.

If Charlie Strong turns Texas around and they win a NC I think he bolts to the league if he doesn't want to stay @ Texas but I damn gurantee you if he does win a NC, Texas will throw a shit load of money @ him.

 

[AgentJ]

Charlie Strong revives Texas.

Kelly leaves for whatever reason (fired, nfl).

Charlie Strong leaves top 5 Texas for ND.

 

[BoredIrish]

Sumlin.

Gruden.

 

[stlnd01]

Bob Stoops.

Guy is in a similar situation that Kelly is in. Both have talent but are stuck in a rut. BK is frustrated with things out of his control and a lot of bad luck to be frank.

Stoops turned down Notre Dame in 2009 because he didnt want to build a program. Kelly has established a program and there is talent to win a Natl Title. Stoops knows this and should BK leave, Swarbrick can easily sell him on being a Natl Title contender now. Stoops then will have a 4-5 year gap where everything is lined up for him to have a great run.

Would agree right now, if Kelly were to leave for the NFL, we should go after Stoops. Hard. He's done what he can do at Oklahoma and might be up for something different. And he knows how to win at big-time college football.
But if I were choosing between the two right now I think I'd rather have Kelly.

 

[stlnd01]

Sumlin.

Gruden.

Sarcasm font?

 

[irishff1014]

The answer is Charlie Weis Jr. I mean he had the headset on for 4 years and shoulda been calling plays at Kansas!

But on a serious note:


Bob Stoops.

Guy is in a similar situation that Kelly is in. Both have talent but are stuck in a rut. BK is frustrated with things out of his control and a lot of bad luck to be frank.

Stoops turned down Notre Dame in 2009 because he didnt want to build a program. Kelly has established a program and there is talent to win a Natl Title. Stoops knows this and should BK leave, Swarbrick can easily sell him on being a Natl Title contender now. Stoops then will have a 4-5 year gap where everything is lined up for him to have a great run.

He wont be at ND for 10+ years, nor is he the answer long term. But, name me someone better to hire if BK leaves in the next 1-2 years? Stoops gets a fresh start and a jumpstart in a new place. Then in 4-5 years, that allows a young hotshot coach to develop and Notre Dame can make a move on him with the program in a good spot. Aka Charlie Strong gets tired of Texas, Tom Herman lives up to the hype, Chuck Martin builds a name for himself at the D-1 level, etc.

I think everyone would like the big name hire. But I doubt that stoops could handle all the other stuff the way Kelly does.

 

[ThePiombino]

I think everyone would like the big name hire. But I doubt that stoops could handle all the other stuff the way Kelly does.

Based on what?

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

Stoops has one national title in 16 years, has similar recruiting to ND, and just took his pre-season top 5 football team to an 8-5 record capped by a public embarrassment at the hands of Clemson.

If he were ND's coach, the consensus here would be to fire him.

 

[SoJerseyIrish]

Stoops has one national title in 16 years, has similar recruiting to ND, and just took his pre-season top 5 football team to an 8-5 record capped by a public embarrassment at the hands of Clemson.

If he were ND's coach, the consensus here would be to fire him.

LOL.........well said!

 

[ShamrockOnHelmet]

I don't think there is a qualified replacement for Kelly.

Thinking way outside the box: Maybe we could throw a bunch of money at Peyton Manning when he retires. I think he's already qualified to coach, maybe more than most coaches he works with now. I think he'll coach Tennessee some day or start out as an O coordinator or QB coach in the pros.

I know we are doing fantasy here, but Manning will never coach at any level. He's basically got an open invitation in Indy to do any job he wants He's said several times to Indy media he thinks he wouldn't be a good coach and has no interest. Front office/ownership is what he's interested in.

 

[irishff1014]

Based on what?

I don't think he would be able to handle the media, the admin that ND has. I wonder if he would be able to recruit the kids ND does now. And there would be more academic problems due to the fact hr hasn't had to have a tight academic schedule to recruit off of.

Yes he does have one NC but other then that he hasn't done a whole lot for me in a OK division.

 

[Seanthornton]

This thread is B.S. I'm surprised it still up.

 

[irishtrain]

This thread is B.S. I'm surprised it still up.

Here here. I'm all in with Kelly-frankly I cant see anything positive from this slant at all. Notre Dame has a top 5 coach in the country (at least ) please don't run this quality guy off. Use your head.

 

[drake29]

This thread is B.S. I'm surprised it still up.

I regretted it immediately after the first 10 replies or so. It was derailed with replies that didn't fit the initial content of the original post or guys just joking around. Which is why I edited the OP because what's the point?

 

[drake29]

Here here. I'm all in with Kelly-frankly I cant see anything positive from this slant at all. Notre Dame has a top 5 coach in the country (at least ) please don't run this quality guy off. Use your head.

There was no slant in the OP. I asked about former ND players either in coaching or with coaching aspirations - there aren't many out there. I know Bryant Young is into coaching now. Steve Belles coaches at Hamilton High in Arizona. Kyle McCarthy, Danny Spond and now Tommy Rees are recent ND grads that may have interest in the future. That's literally all there was to it - a look into the future. It had nothing to do with Brian Kelly.

 

[pkt77242]

There was no slant in the OP. I asked about former ND players either in coaching or with coaching aspirations - there aren't many out there. I know Bryant Young is into coaching now. Steve Belles coaches at Hamilton High in Arizona. Kyle McCarthy, Danny Spond and now Tommy Rees are recent ND grads that may have interest in the future. That's literally all there was to it - a look into the future. It had nothing to do with Brian Kelly.

Ron Powlus is in coaching as well (has been the QB coach at ND, Akron and Kansas).
Autry Denson is a RB coach (Miami University)
Jarious Jackson is the QB coach for the BC Lions
Tim Grunhard has coached the OL at Kansas and is coaching in HS now.

all per Wikipedia.

 

[Sherm Sticky]

Ron Powlus is in coaching as well (has been the QB coach at ND, Akron and Kansas).
Autry Denson is a RB coach (Miami University)
Jarious Jackson is the QB coach for the BC Lions
Tim Grunhard has coached the OL at Kansas and is coaching in HS now.

all per Wikipedia.

Powlus, Denson and Jackson were all players from my youth. Brings back memories and mostly good ones.


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[IrishJayhawk]

Ron Powlus is in coaching as well (has been the QB coach at ND, Akron and Kansas).
Autry Denson is a RB coach (Miami University)
Jarious Jackson is the QB coach for the BC Lions
Tim Grunhard has coached the OL at Kansas and is coaching in HS now.

all per Wikipedia.

Grunhard was the head coach at Bishop Miege in Kansas City prior to being tapped for the KU job. That's a powerhouse program in the area. He's back there now as an OL coach, I think.

 

[stlnd01]

There was no slant in the OP. I asked about former ND players either in coaching or with coaching aspirations - there aren't many out there.

By that criteria, Charlie Weis was ND's Harbaugh. (not a player, I know, but at the time we hired him he was the best credentialed coach in the industry with a Notre Dame degree). Harbaugh's don't always work out.