BVG Fired

ThePiombino

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BVG gets a pass due to the unbelievable circumstances regarding attrition this season, but if this defense does not progress next season then there is no room at the inn in 2016 as far as I'm concerned.
 

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BVG gets a pass due to the unbelievable circumstances regarding attrition this season, but if this defense does not progress next season then there is no room at the inn in 2016 as far as I'm concerned.


Agree. Also first year of new scheme. Milks it's been said before at UGA his first year the defense struggled. Then it took off and dominated.


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Looking at the roster and the past rosters....

Who has BVG had to work with who has been able to consistently contribute in good health and eligibility, in practice and in games, this season?

He has had one 5th year player: Justin Utupo [God bless him and his big motor]. [but not a starter-type player].

He has had one senior: Matthias Farley [God bless him for his fire and ability to pay no attention to critics; also good-on BVG for finding him a best position]. BVG had Schmidt for half the season and Hardy for the other half. Joe was really important and the defense good while we had him. Eilar is a fill-in player doing his best, but the defense has tanked without Joe and the others].

He has had two juniors: Romeo Okwara and Elijah Shumate --- both of whom play hard with Romeo understanding his position not perfectly but adequately, and Elijah usually in confusion, thus not trustworthy as more than a back-up. Two super-important juniors, Sheldon Day and Jarron Jones have either been eliminated or chronically hampered for the disastrous second half of the season. Our defensive demise and lost season stems directly from the near coincidental loss of Schmidt, Day, and JJones [and Riggs] with no healthy and solid upper classmen to sub in for them.

So BVG is forced to play with almost entirely Sophomores and Freshmen. We are EXTREMELY fortunate that three sophomores [JSmith, Luke, and Rochell] are as high quality as they are. Another should-be-dependable soph [Redfield] is Shumate-like in his not-quite-getting-it mental orientation.

Even at the freshman level, BVG has been lumbered with critical injury losses [Cage, Tranquill].

One second-team 5th year.... One starter senior [in the nickel package]... Two second team juniors ---- ONE STARTER UPPERCLASSMAN healthy on defense!

Anyone who thinks that anyone who didn't have Alabama's or a pro team's roster could deal with this by even marginally holding it together is.... well .... I won't use the words.

BVG is "my" DC of the future. If he gets a healthy roster and another practice season to upgrade certain players' understanding of how to play college football, I am very much looking forward to his "product".
 

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Im willing to give BVG a pass on this year since it was his first year with lots of inexperience and lack of talent plus first year of a new scheme. Still excited for his scheme and hope next year we see major strides forward. However, I am at best ambivalent towards our chances next year. I think there is a very good chance the offense still does not have a quality QB or a scheme that commits to the run. If thats the case BVG will have to have an outstanding defense in order to not see an entire new coaching staff including BK.
 

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Reps to OMM, but my concern going forward is the incredible fire/heart/motivation this team played with in the first half of the season.....I just didn't see it in the second half. I don't think BVG lacks that ability based on what I've seen on the sidelines, but you have to think there is a gap in the coaching somewhere (assistants, assistant to the assistant, GA.....somewhere....). I completely understand the talent, experience and often maturity gap between #1 and #3 on the depth chart, but I have to wonder why we just didn't seem to want to be out there.

I wish we could consistently play with the fire of Navy and the talent of ND......
 

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.... people are human. I believe that playing with a continuous game-give-away turnover machine at quarterback, who got worse as the season "progressed" [constantly putting me and my brothers on defense in lousy situations], plus watching my warrior brothers go down to injury one after another, would tax anyone's "enthusiasm".

My eyeball view of our defensive guys said: these guys are beginning every game fired up and hopeful. Then the offense, Everett, and another injury takes it out of them. I am not sure how reasonable it is to expect "warrior mentality" in the face of constant crap, especially without upperclassman leadership which still can walk unassisted.
 

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.... people are human. I believe that playing with a continuous game-give-away turnover machine at quarterback, who got worse as the season "progressed" [constantly putting me and my brothers on defense in lousy situations], plus watching my warrior brothers go down to injury one after another, would tax anyone's "enthusiasm".

My eyeball view of our defensive guys said: these guys are beginning every game fired up and hopeful. Then the offense, Everett, and another injury takes it out of them. I am not sure how reasonable it is to expect "warrior mentality" in the face of constant crap, especially without upperclassman leadership which still can walk unassisted.

I would say put on your big boy pants and earn that scholarship. No excuse not to give 100%, ever.
 

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Obviously I don't want BK fired but 71% isn't exactly something to be overly proud of. Lloyd Carr was over 75% in his career at Michigan and they ran him out of town, for example.[/QUOTE . Loyd couldn't beat Ohio st. and John Cooper couldn't beat Michigan, so both had to go during their tenure.
 

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black irish:

You just bumped this thread 4 times.

Nice. So. And then.

And then.

And then.
 

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black irish:

You just bumped this thread 4 times.

Nice. So. And then.

And then.

And then.

lol just noticed that too. Hasn't Koon taught you guys not to bump threads unless there is actual news? He hates reading through that stuff
 

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A little concerning that San Diego State has the Navy option stumped right now.
 

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Exactly. And the fact that San Diego St. schemes better than us is unacceptable.

I couldn't believe the numbers that they held Navy to in the first half. Navy is starting to look better though as the game goes on.
 

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I couldn't believe the numbers that they held Navy to in the first half. Navy is starting to look better though as the game goes on.

As soon as I comment on this thread they drive down and score. But for the most part they have stonewalled them.
 

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As soon as I comment on this thread they drive down and score. But for the most part they have stonewalled them.

True but you know it is a tall task to bottle up Reynolds for a whole game. SDSU just needs to use the advantage they have on the O line and run the damn ball (sound familiar)?
 

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True but you know it is a tall task to bottle up Reynolds for a whole game. SDSU just needs to use the advantage they have on the O line and run the damn ball (sound familiar)?

What is this "run" you speak of?


If only we had capable backs
 

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Someone teach blackirish the multi-quote feature

Could I be copied on the lesson?

I'm an aging, drug addled hippie; but reasonably competent at repetition.

It's all in the programming.
 

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I think they ran the ball in the 90s but I'm not sure.

If only our backs were better than SDSUs 1-2 punch.
 

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I've said this every year, especially recently. I don't give a shit if Navy's offense is tricky or whatever. A team like Navy shouldn't be able to do squat against the top tier teams in D1A.
 

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I've said this every year, especially recently. I don't give a shit if Navy's offense is tricky or whatever. A team like Navy shouldn't be able to do squat against the top tier teams in D1A.

Its not like Navy has the athletes that Georgia Tech has but we will find that out next year when we face the option twice. 14 points threw 3 quarters is all SDSUs defense has allowed, I would love to hear that they have a better defense than we do.
 

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Rocky Long, the SDSU coach, has a ton of experience playing in and against the option throughout his career. He's known for planning successfully against it.

Too bad he wasn't more prepared to score points.
 
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