NCAA Playoff Committee Rankings 2014 (Unranked)

[koonja]

Do we need another letter to differentiate Mississippi State U. MSU and Michigan State U. MSU? I'm gettin confused by the banter..

MSU = Sparty, Miss St = MSSU?, MStU?

I wouldn't worry about it too much. A year from now, we'll go back to forgetting Mississippi State is in a power 5 conference.

 

[nd_fan]

At this point all you can hope for is a good bowl game

 

[irishff1014]

This committee isn't fixing anything good try college football but you faile yet again.

 

[GATTACA!]

Team B gave up 3 less points

We are B

 

[IrishLax]

Florida State challenged themselves with Oklahoma State, Notre Dame, and Florida out of conference. Oregon only MSU. Mississippi State NO ONE AT ALL.

The logic is just beyond inconsistent to have Miss State ranked where they are relative to Oregon being ahead of FSU. Bunch of morons running that clown show. Not a surprise to me that the SEC/PAC are the best represented and you see the rankings shaping up how they are.

 

[gkIrish]

Yeah I honestly have no idea how Oregon jumped FSU and why MSU/UCLA are that far ahead of us. So confusing.

 

[Irishcop]

Is Auburn at # 9? They lost to an unranked Texas A&M and MSU beat them pretty soundly. ND lost to # 2 FSU and # 6 ASU and ND ends up at 18?

 

[Junkhead]

I don't care this year because we obviously don't deserve to go but holy crap I have ZERO faith in this committee. Their logic has been pathetic throughout this entire process. They have completely changed their evaluation rationale week-to-week to fit whatever the fuck they came up with in their messed up voting procedure.

I agree. Still seems like a bunch of random BS goes into the rankings. And everyone hates ND, so a loss is always is more painful in the rankings. Whatever. They need a 32 team playoff

 

[Rhode Irish]

I don't care this year because we obviously don't deserve to go but holy crap I have ZERO faith in this committee. Their logic has been pathetic throughout this entire process. They have completely changed their evaluation rationale week-to-week to fit whatever the fuck they came up with in their messed up voting procedure.

My thoughts exactly.

 

[Rhode Irish]

This committee isn't fixing anything good try college football but you faile yet again.

Fail.

Sorry, had to.

 

[irishog77]

I think the only thing worse than a "coaches" poll and a poll voted on by lazy and incompetent writers is this playoff committee poll.

There are many instances of inconsistency and/or lack of actual insight on their part, but here is just one: they are punishing Baylor for their lack of Power 5 teams in their non-conference schedule (but crediting TCU for scheduling...Minnesota, a perennial dog who happens to be doing ok this year, but I digress), but not Mississippi State. Will they continue to punish Baylor for actually playing 9 Power 5 teams instead of 8 like Mississippi State and others though, since the Big XII plays 9 conference games? Will they ever even notice this? If a team like TCU is "rewarded" for merely scheduling a Big 10 bottom-dweller, why is a team like ND punished for doing the same thing?

 

[IrishLax]

When you start looking at the inherent biases of people, it gets really easy to see why this committee is a disaster. They'd be MUCH better off a committee composed of people from Harvard/Yale/Villanova/San Diego/insert non-FBS schools that know football and don't have massive conflicts of interest to vote.

Let's break it down, including Archie for a second:
Archie-SEC +1, Ole Miss +1
Wieberg-SEC +1, Missouri +1
Jeff Long-SEC +1, Big Ten +1, Arkansas +1, Michigan +1
Alvarez-Big Ten +1, Wisconsin +1
Mike Gould-Air Force +1
Pat Haden-PAC12 +1, USC +1
Jerndstedt-PAC12 +1, Oregon +1
Luck-Big 12 +1, WVU +1, Stanford +1
Osborne-Nebraska +1
Radakovich-ACC +1, Clemson +1
Rice-PAC 12 +1, Stanford +1, ND +1 (though she admits she cheers for Stanford over ND)
Tranghese-ND -1 (blames ND for Big East collapse)
Willingham-PAC12 +1, Big Ten +1, Michigan State +1, Stanford +1, Notre Dame -1 (thinks ND is racist for firing him for being a bad coach)

Total it up...
Big Ten = +3
ACC = +1
PAC = +4
SEC = +3
Big 12 = +1

Note who the undefeated defending champ from the ACC (+1) is being jumped by.

Also note that ND is net -1. And note that Michigan State, Nebraska, Wisconsin, Oregon and Ole Miss... five teams that people continue to bring up as "over ranked" by the committee... all have hired guns on the committee.

This whole process is just so poorly conceived and executed... can't wait for the chaos.

 

[IrishLax]

I think the only thing worse than a "coaches" poll and a poll voted on by lazy and incompetent writers is this playoff committee poll.

There are many instances of inconsistency and/or lack of actual insight on their part, but here is just one: they are punishing Baylor for their lack of Power 5 teams in their non-conference schedule (but crediting TCU for scheduling...Minnesota, a perennial dog who happens to be doing ok this year, but I digress), but not Mississippi State. Will they continue to punish Baylor for actually playing 9 Power 5 teams instead of 8 like Mississippi State and others though, since the Big XII plays 9 conference games? Will they ever even notice this? If a team like TCU is "rewarded" for merely scheduling a Big 10 bottom-dweller, why is a team like ND punished for doing the same thing?

The best is to go look at Michigan State's "resume"... two blow out losses to the only legitimate teams they've played, and an ugly close win over a medicore Nebraska team that would get smoked if it wasn't in the easiest half-conference in all of the Power 5*... their other wins outside Nebraska are beyond comical. Not a single team that even has a pulse.

*ACC Coastal? But look where Duke is ranked relative to Michigan State

 

[Pa Golden Tate Fan]

When you start looking at the inherent biases of people, it gets really easy to see why this committee is a disaster. They'd be MUCH better off a committee composed of people from Harvard/Yale/Villanova/San Diego/insert non-FBS schools that know football and don't have massive conflicts of interest to vote.

Let's break it down, including Archie for a second:
Archie-SEC +1, Ole Miss +1
Wieberg-SEC +1, Missouri +1
Jeff Long-SEC +1, Big Ten +1, Arkansas +1, Michigan +1
Alvarez-Big Ten +1, Wisconsin +1
Mike Gould-Air Force +1
Pat Haden-PAC12 +1, USC +1
Jerndstedt-PAC12 +1, Oregon +1
Luck-Big 12 +1, WVU +1, Stanford +1
Osborne-Nebraska +1
Radakovich-ACC +1, Clemson +1
Rice-PAC 12 +1, Stanford +1, ND +1 (though she admits she cheers for Stanford over ND)
Tranghese-ND -1 (blames ND for Big East collapse)
Willingham-PAC12 +1, Big Ten +1, Michigan State +1, Stanford +1, Notre Dame -1 (thinks ND is racist for firing him for being a bad coach)

Total it up...
Big Ten = +3
ACC = +1
PAC = +4
SEC = +3
Big 12 = +1

Note who the undefeated defending champ from the ACC (+1) is being jumped by.

Also note that ND is net -1. And note that Michigan State, Nebraska, Wisconsin, Oregon and Ole Miss... five teams that people continue to bring up as "over ranked" by the committee... all have hired guns on the committee.

This whole process is just so poorly conceived and executed... can't wait for the chaos.

Alvarez was an assistant under Holtz.

 

[IrishLax]

Alvarez was an assistant under Holtz.

2 years of assistant coaching at a school does not mean shit. I didn't list any tangential biases, only the ones that are firm confirmed "inclinations"... i.e. why I didn't list Osborne for being "pro" Big Ten because I'm not 100% sure he is, but I do know that he's a Cornhusker through and through

 

[GoldenDome]

Sorry but our team ranking seems right. Our resume: two wins over teams with winning records are Stanford [5-4] and Rice [6-3]. All the other teams we beat either have a losing record or flat out suck (Michigan).

 

[BleedBlueGold]

A lot has already been said that I agree with, so let me add:

I hate to be that guy, but I've been saying since week 1 rankings that the committee is fucked up. I personally agree where ND is ranked (and I'll get to that). But you cannot make a legit argument for Oregon over UNDEFEATED, DEFENDING NATIONAL CHAMPS FSU. That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever seen. Also, can someone explain this: Bama moved up last week while on a bye. Bama stayed out of the top 4 after beating a ranked LSU team on the road. WTF is this committee doing? Was that a "make up call" by them? And please don't get me started on Mich St. My God, have they royally fudged that up from the beginning. Seriously, I pray every night that ND gets matched up with MSU in a bowl game. They are TERRIBLE. CFB analysts have been saying all year that the B1G is a terrible conference and they'd be lucky to have one rep in the final four...Can someone explain how they have THREE teams in the top 16 with their resumes? Un-fucking-believable. MSU has been blown out TWICE this year. They have ONE win over a ranked team...Nebraska...give me a break.

As promised, back to ND. Look guys, you need to stop comparing just losses. I've been saying this since the beginning...the committee weighs wins more heavily. ND does not have a single win over a team that is ranked anywhere close to the Top 25. Hell, if it wasn't for Duke's weak schedule, they may even be ahead of ND with a win over GT. A three-loss LSU being ahead of two-loss ND is hard to swallow, but look at their schedule. They have TWO wins over ranked teams. Lets face it, ND has not done anything to prove they belong ahead of any of those teams.

 

[ndftbl]

Looks like Lou Holtz was rght

Looks like Lou Holtz was rght

ND will always be in trouble with the Committee, if they don't get in a conference. The reason being that most members of the Committee represent a conference.

Six spots lower than Michigan State?

On what possible basis?

It would have to be that the Committee considers Nebraska, who barely escaped at home vs McNeese State, as a MUCH better team than Stanford.

Look at the four non-common opponent teams Nebraska has played. Powers like Wyoming, Eastern Michigan, Indiana and Jacksonville State. And the two common opponents were Michigan and Purdue, and in each case ND won by more points.

They played two good teams, and got it handed to them, each time.

We arguably beat FSU, and were down by only 3 points to ASU, late in the game. (Both teams are currently ranked in the top 6.)

Yet MSU is ranked six positions higher than ND??

 

[BleedBlueGold]

Duke: 8-1 with weak schedule. Win over #22 GT. Current ranking is #21. Duke's loss is to Miami.

Nebraska: 8-1 with weak schedule. Zero wins over ranked teams. Current ranking is #16. Nebraska's loss is to MSU. Common opponent: Miami: Nebraska won by 10.

Compare these two teams and explain to me how the fuck Nebraska is #16 and Duke is #21.

 

[IrishLax]

Duke: 8-1 with weak schedule. Win over #22 GT. Current ranking is #21. Duke's loss is to Miami.

Nebraska: 8-1 with weak schedule. Zero wins over ranked teams. Current ranking is #16. Nebraska's loss is to MSU. Common opponent: Miami: Nebraska won by 10.

Compare these two teams and explain to me how the fuck Nebraska is #16 and Duke is #21.

Exactly.

(Also note that the ACC has the fewest reps on the committee and Duke has no reps, while Nebraska has Tom Osborne )

 

[BleedBlueGold]

Exactly.

(Also note that the ACC has the fewest reps on the committee and Duke has no reps, while Nebraska has Tom Osborne )

Yea I saw your earlier post. It's spot on. This whole thing is comical. I personally think the playoff committee is a good idea that's gone horribly bad.

 

[Hammer Of The Gods]

Exactly.

(Also note that the ACC has the fewest reps on the committee and Duke has no reps, while Nebraska has Tom Osborne )

Osborn must have some dirt on the committee members or just bitches and moans until they Put Nebraska where he deems fit. There truly isn't any other explanation.

 

[BleedBlueGold]

Osborn must have some dirt on the committee members or just bitches and moans until they Put Nebraska where he deems fit. There truly isn't any other explanation.

"You wash my back, I'll wash yours."

 

[ND NYC]

is it true both baylor and tcu have played 3 FCS teams each?

 

[connor_in]

I wouldn't worry about it too much. A year from now, we'll go back to forgetting Mississippi State is in a power 5 conference.

You'll need it when the investigations of payoffs start / no italics

 

[kmoose]

is it true both baylor and tcu have played 3 FCS teams each?

No.

TCU played Samford.
Baylor played Northwestern State.

So 1 FCS school each.

 

[gkIrish]

Duke: 8-1 with weak schedule. Win over #22 GT. Current ranking is #21. Duke's loss is to Miami.

Nebraska: 8-1 with weak schedule. Zero wins over ranked teams. Current ranking is #16. Nebraska's loss is to MSU. Common opponent: Miami: Nebraska won by 10.

Compare these two teams and explain to me how the fuck Nebraska is #16 and Duke is #21.

I'm not sure I follow. Nebraska beat Duke's only loss but you think it's unfair that they are ranked ahead of Duke? I agree that it makes no sense related to the supposed "quality wins" framework but I don't think it's outrageous that Nebraska is ahead of Duke.

 

[T Town Tommy]

Wonder if the committee will release their week over week ranking thoughts at the end of the year? We get tidbits here and there right after the rankings are released each week, but a more comprehensive summary would be nice. Maybe not during the season, but after everything is decided. I am sure conference commissioners want the committee's thoughts on why they ranked where they did.

 

[BleedBlueGold]

I'm not sure I follow. Nebraska beat Duke's only loss but you think it's unfair that they are ranked ahead of Duke? I agree that it makes no sense related to the supposed "quality wins" framework but I don't think it's outrageous that Nebraska is ahead of Duke.

5 spots...that's my beef. B1G bias is real within the committee. MSU and Nebraska have been overrated all year. See LAX's post about the conference reps in the committee...

Call it a conspiracy theory if you want. But two teams w/ basically the same resume should not be ranked that far apart, especially if the lower ranked team has a quality win.

 

[T Town Tommy]

5 spots...that's my beef. B1G bias is real within the committee. MSU and Nebraska have been overrated all year. See LAX's post about the conference reps in the committee...

Call it a conspiracy theory if you want. But two teams w/ basically the same resume should not be ranked that far apart, especially if the lower ranked team has a quality win.

I don't really have an issue with them being five spots apart. Both have played pretty much the same level of competition and Nebraska does have the win against the team that beat Duke. I don't think the Duke win over Ga Tech is being viewed as a quality win... nor should it. If there was truly B1G bias... tOSU would be ranked much higher than where they are.