NCAA Playoff Committee Rankings 2014 (Unranked)

[IrishLion]

Second losses aren't going to hurt any of the top SEC teams, based on the initial rankings and the reasoning for those rankings.

For example, I think a 2-loss Ole Miss will remain ahead of an 11-1 ND at the end of the year, as long as the second loss is a close game on the road. Same goes for any of the one-loss SEC teams.

It's laughable that the SEC is recognized as so strong and is already the measuring stick for the playoff committee, and yet their non-conference scheduling is such a complete joke.

 

[Booslum31]

I heard the exact same thing. Once sentence Herby awards FSU for "just getting wins" and then the next sentence he says "getting wins for ND isn't enough."

I had a little optimism going into this system at the beginning of the year, but after last night I'm worried. I know it is early in the year and a lot of those top teams need to play each other still, but seeing Ole Miss still in the top 4 after losing last week to a not great LSU team leaves me with some bubbleguts.

If the SEC West beats up on each other with some close games between them, I can honestly see this committee "awarding" 2 loss SEC team(s) above any other 1 loss team.

Someone on twitter made a good point last night. If ND wins at FSU they are in the top 2, possibly 1. So, is that 1 play/bad call worth 10 spots in the poll?

Beat Navy.

Take all of this out on Navy...CRUSH NAVY!

 

[irishog77]

According to Long on the Dan Patrick show... Implied that the close loss to FSU was the only reason they were rated as high as they were opposed to where OSU and Nebraska is

So try and make a schedule that very same year and include the teams that are good at that very moment...or schedule the ess eee cee west. Got it. Thanks Long.

 

[Blaise]

Second losses aren't going to hurt any of the top SEC teams, based on the initial rankings and the reasoning for those rankings.

For example, I think a 2-loss Ole Miss will remain ahead of an 11-1 ND at the end of the year, as long as the second loss is a close game on the road. Same goes for any of the one-loss SEC teams.

It's laughable that the SEC is recognized as so strong and is already the measuring stick for the playoff committee, and yet their non-conference scheduling is such a complete joke.

People keep saying this but I won't believe it til I see it... One loss SEC teams will be rated higher and if a 2 loss Georgia as SEC champ could be higher but that is only scenario I see...

We are frustrated, angry, and pissed... Yes..... But the OMiss being 4 is the one bright spot that is better than BCS... In past years, If ND went 11-0 and lost last week to USC they would be out of the mix, yet if they lost Week 2 to Mich and won out, they would have a chance...

This scenario says it doesn't matter where you lose. Miss lost last week, but the committee thought their 1 loss record/schedule put them ahead of Bama and Oregon who lost earlier in year.. I think that is a good thing for future years..

ND really just needs to focus on winning. ASU and USC will be dog fights and they can't afford to lose. go 11-1 and then if we r left out, we can go to Tyrone Willingham and C Rice's houses and burn them down

 

[ACamp1900]

I believe there is very little to no chance ND can make the playoff now... if Ole miss can lose to an LSU team that has no ability to pass at all and drop all of what? One spot? Two? then the other SEC teams can all lose another game without ND passing them... that alone keeps ND out on numbers alone, then you have FSU, if they lose it hurts ND, if they win out that's one less spot... and that's not even touching the other teams in front of ND...

whatever, truth be told the odds of ND winning out are not that high anyway.

 

[Blaise]

With exception of Duke and East Carolina, the 0 loss teams are at top, followed by 1 loss teams, followed by 2 loss teams... No reason to believe if Auburn losses they will still be ahead of 12 other 1 loss teams...

 

[IrishLion]

Best case scenario I see for ND? Finish 11-1/10-2 outside of the playoffs, and absolutely destroy whoever they meet in one of the big bowl games.

Change perception a bit, that way if the schedule ends up being softer than it's supposed to be in coming years, like it has this year, it might not hurt quite as bad.

 

[theclassickiller]

The one big glaring issue I have with the rankings is that Michigan State is ranked in front of ND.

Granted, Michigan State's best win (Nebraska) is better than ND's (Stanford). But look at the rest of Michigan State's wins:

Jacksonville State
Eastern Michigan
Wyoming
Purdue
Indiana
Michigan

That's a pathetic schedule, but they got up for the big game against Nebraska, and suddenly they are Top 10?

I strongly disagree with that. The record may be better, but Stanford would crush Nebraska. They have faced one good defense (MSU) and had a miracle fourth quarter to make it look close. If they scored 10 on Stanford I'd be shocked.

 

[IRISH in MT]

Every time a ranked SEC West team loses it will barely drop in the poll + the winner will climb into the top 4.

Same goes for the Big 12 right now...a bunch of ranked teams beating each other will boost the winner and barely drop the loser in the rankings.

The nation is in love with Oregon and their flashy uni's and fast QB. They all forget their defense has been marginal for ever.

It really upsets me that they honestly think Michigan State is better than ND. I know it was last year but we are 1 of their last 2 losses and beat them 3 years in a row prior to not playing them this year.

IF ASU, U$C, and Stanford don't win the rest of their PAC 12 games, ND is doomed!

 

[ACamp1900]

Best case scenario I see for ND? Finish 11-1/10-2 outside of the playoffs, and absolutely destroy whoever they meet in one of the big bowl games.

Change perception a bit, that way if the schedule ends up being softer than it's supposed to be in coming years, like it has this year, it might not hurt quite as bad.

I thought of this earlier... wouldn't that so fit... be kept out by that one play/call and then have to live with the what if after we beat up on some team everyone held so far above us like, idk and Auburn or something?? Not sure that'd be a great consolation but whatever.

 

[zelezo vlk]

So it looks like major bowl game then? Does that mean the Cotton Bowl?

 

[kmoose]

I strongly disagree with that. The record may be better, but Stanford would crush Nebraska. They have faced one good defense (MSU) and had a miracle fourth quarter to make it look close. If they scored 10 on Stanford I'd be shocked.

Regardless, the argument is not about whose best win is better. The argument is that, even allowing MSU the better big win, ND's sum total still blows MSU's out of the water.

 

[Grahambo]

I heard the exact same thing. Once sentence Herby awards FSU for "just getting wins" and then the next sentence he says "getting wins for ND isn't enough."

I had a little optimism going into this system at the beginning of the year, but after last night I'm worried. I know it is early in the year and a lot of those top teams need to play each other still, but seeing Ole Miss still in the top 4 after losing last week to a not great LSU team leaves me with some bubbleguts.

If the SEC West beats up on each other with some close games between them, I can honestly see this committee "awarding" 2 loss SEC team(s) above any other 1 loss team.

Someone on twitter made a good point last night. If ND wins at FSU they are in the top 2, possibly 1. So, is that 1 play/bad call worth 10 spots in the poll?

Beat Navy.

Which ties back into the perception of the SEC that ESPN has control over. Its gonna be viewed as a hard fought, SEC battle but if ND gets into a dogfight with ASU, it'll be talked about as ND struggled against an inferior opponent.

ND is essentially being punished for a penalty they did not commit. And I'm sorry but that one penalty is not worth 9-10 spots although it would appear, since ND would be undefeated, that they would be in the top 2.

People want to prop up ASU but do you trust them against Utah? What if they lose to Utah and then ND? Or they lose to ND and Arizona? Its entirely possible.

Our other hope is Louisville? Ok, so they lose to FSU and ND? They can also trip up against Boston College and/or Kentucky?

The fact that ND has to rely on so many other factors is troubling. When teams are scheduling South Alabama, Jacksonville State, UT Martin, Presbyterian, etc and then beat each other up in overhyped games when they are already highly ranked, does not bode well.

 

[koonja]

Lol, you guys. ND will be in at 11-1.

If they aren't, I will not make a post until June 1, 2015. But when they are, I want 5 billion vbucks. You can pool together to come up with it, or pay as one, IDC.

Can't wait to get those vbucks!

 

[ACamp1900]

ND in the SEC wouldn't work bc out our of conference schedule would include Stanford and USC every year...

 

[Cali_domer]

Lol, you guys. ND will be in at 11-1.

If they aren't, I will not make a post until June 1, 2015. But when they are, I want 5 billion vbucks. You can pool together to come up with it, or pay as one, IDC.

Can't wait to get those vbucks!

I don't bet but if we get in at 11-1 I will give you 10 billion Vbucks and you owe me nothing if we're left behind.

 

[BleedBlueGold]

MSU has no business being ranked in the top 10. That conference, as a whole, got exposed in all of their OoC games. They should not benefit that much from playing each other. It makes no sense.

 

[BleedBlueGold]

Lol, you guys. ND will be in at 11-1.

If they aren't, I will not make a post until June 1, 2015. But when they are, I want 5 billion vbucks. You can pool together to come up with it, or pay as one, IDC.

Can't wait to get those vbucks!

Dude just quit. ND needs help to get in. If you believe ND gets in w/ 11-1 record and no outside help from teams either losing (MSU, Oregon, etc) or winning more (Stanford, UL, ASU, etc) then you're delusional.

 

[koonja]

Dude just quit. ND needs help to get in. If you believe ND gets in w/ 11-1 record and no outside help from teams either losing (MSU, Oregon, etc) or winning more (Stanford, UL, ASU, etc) then you're delusional.

Who said they don't need help? It's inevitable they get it.

And I'm trying to quit. Make the bet and I'm gone, lol.

 

[Cackalacky]

I keep reading that everyone is confused how Ole Miss could lose and "fall" only one spot.

Well, this is the first poll by this committee and they basically have them ranked as the highest one loss team by a large margin. People seem to be making the mistake that Ole Miss' ranking in the AP and coaches is relevant to where the committee thought they were prior to issuing their poll.

My guess is they had Ole Miss rated higher and the loss dropped them to where they put them.

 

[Old Man Mike]

Re: Stanford.

I still believe that they are a good and very dangerous football team. Their loss to USC was a travesty of their own making. Their kicking game was utterly horrible --- punting and field goals [they averaged 27 yards per punt, and missed two out of three field goals.] They outgained USC 413 to 291.

Their loss to ASU was a truer loss, but still mainly self-inflicted. They fumbled four times losing two, and their only punt return went for MINUS 14 yards. ASUs QB played a great game, but the total yards [356-288] wasn't atrocious.

So yes, Stanford has 3 losses, but I wouldn't be clamoring to play them as a "mediocre" team.


... and as a reminder: we DID dominate them [370 yards to 205; blunted by giving them 14 points off turnovers.] So Stanford "good performances" vs other teams would make lots of difference, or SHOULD anyway.

 

[Cackalacky]

Who said they don't need help? It's inevitable they get it.

And I'm trying to quit. Make the bet and I'm gone, lol.

Enough koon. 15 posts on taking a bet is annoying. Drop it. Or take it to PM with interested posters.

 

[koonja]

I keep reading that everyone is confused how Ole Miss could lose and "fall" only one spot.

Well, this is the first poll by this committee and they basically have them ranked as the highest one loss team by a large margin. People seem to be making the mistake that Ole Miss' ranking in the AP and coaches is relevant to where the committee thought they were prior to issuing their poll.

My guess is they had Ole Miss rated higher and the loss dropped them to where they put them.

Enough koon. 15 posts on taking a bet is annoying. Drop it. Or take it to PM with interested posters.[/QUOTE]

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I hear all this whining about how we're unlikely to be in even if we win out. I'm offering a chance for people to put their bets where their mouth is.

 

[Ndaccountant]

I keep reading that everyone is confused how Ole Miss could lose and "fall" only one spot.

Well, this is the first poll by this committee and they basically have them ranked as the highest one loss team by a large margin. People seem to be making the mistake that Ole Miss' ranking in the AP and coaches is relevant to where the committee thought they were prior to issuing their poll.

My guess is they had Ole Miss rated higher and the loss dropped them to where they put them.

Bingo.....Me thinks that Ole Miss would have been #2 in this poll if not for last week. After all, if they win that game, they would have wins over Bama, A&M & LSU compared to MSU with wins over LSU, A&M and Auburn. Flip of the coin really.

Also, if Bama is where they are, you almost have to have Ole Miss where they are. You going to put Oregon ahead of them?

 

[Cackalacky]

Enough koon. 15 posts on taking a bet is annoying. Drop it. Or take it to PM with interested posters.[/QUOTE]

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I hear all this whining about how we're unlikely to be in even if we win out. I'm offering a chance for people to put their bets where their mouth is.

Do you understand the words "Drop it"? Enough.

 

[GATTACA!]

Do you understand the words "Drop it"? Enough.

 

[NDinTEXAS]

It was said before the selection that its ok to select people who watch football all there lives but have never been in football to be on the committee. I can name a lot of problems with this selection and it all boils down to the selectors. WTF IS CONDOLEEZZA RICE DOING IN THIS? These people don't know crap.

 

[tussin]

It was said before the selection that its ok to select people who watch football all there lives but have never been in football to be on the committee. I can name a lot of problems with this selection and it all boils down to the selectors. WTF IS CONDOLEEZZA RICE DOING IN THIS? These people don't know crap.

I disagree. I suspect the issue is more with individuals that are currently sitting ADs at Power 5 schools or who have strong ties to specific conferences. I wouldn't be surprised if Condi Rice was one of the more objective individuals on the committee.

 

[Irish2155]

They beat the number 15 team in the committee's ranking (1 loss Nebraska)

Another overranked team, by the committee...McNeese St (whoever the f_they are)? Stanford is better then them, by far...

Sorry for the late post, I'll catch up in a bit...

 

[woolybug25]

I disagree. I suspect the issue is more with individuals that are currently sitting ADs at Power 5 schools or who have strong ties to specific conferences. I wouldn't be surprised if Condi Rice was one of the more objective individuals on the committee.

Here our my thoughts. I don't think that a sitting AD or coach should be anywhere near this committee, none the less, a member. I also think there should be some criteria. This was just a potpourri of names of random people interested in the gig.

I mean... what in the hell is Ty Willingham bringing to the table?

The group is also far too small. No reason to only have 12 members conniving their ideals on all of football. Get sportswriters, analysts and non bipartisan football minds on a committee that does a blind vote after deliberations each week. Make it 100 people.