Adrian Peterson in trouble?

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

Oh...I get it...gay people are weak and don't believe in God. Good post.

Obviously you don't get it. I used no derogatory terms to reference gay people so your inference was incorrect. Limp-wristed, at least as I've heard it has no reference to "the gheys" but to those who aren't able to deal with the harsh realities of life or live in a "self-elevated" state.

Think of the aristocracy, Bourgeoisie, the Russian nobles, etc.

That's pretty insensitive to associate limp wrists with gay people. I thought that was a negative stereotype?

Truly my first thought. It's a thing of beauty when someone shows their bigotry by trying to call someone out for being a bigot.

 

[no.1IrishFan]

Proverbs 13:24

Spare the rod, spoil the child.

The scripture actually says if you don't hit your son with a rod, you hate him.

 

[IrishJayhawk]

Just the politically correct climate we live in these days. My mother and father physically disciplined me when I was acting up, misbehaving, or being disrespectful and I turned out okay. Nowadays parents are not allowed to be parents to their children anymore without someone (who doesn't even have kids of their own) have an outrage and report CPS or the police or the media about it and people wonder why children grow up to be disrespectful brats to those who are different than them as well as not giving them their way. Political correctness sucks and it has worn out its welcome with me for years now. It really is time for people to grow a pair, man up, and start laying down the law with people instead of coddling them when they act up.

Did your parents physically discipline you to the point that you bled? Honest question.

 

[IrishJayhawk]

Obviously you don't get it. I used no derogatory terms to reference gay people so your inference was incorrect. Limp-wristed, at least as I've heard it has no reference to "the gheys" but to those who aren't able to deal with the harsh realities of life or live in a "self-elevated" state.

Think of the aristocracy, Bourgeoisie, the Russian nobles, etc.



Truly my first thought. It's a thing of beauty when someone shows their bigotry by trying to call someone out for being a bigot.

I've never heard "limp wristed" used as a way to reference anything but gay people. If that wasn't your point, okay. Either way, I disagree with your premise.

 

[South Jersey Domer]

Did your parents physically discipline you to the point that you bled? Honest question.

they never did, but they still physically disciplined me and yet I turned out just fine. My point is we are raising a soft generation who expect to be coddled, given everything they want, are disrespectful to others, etc.

 

[IrishJayhawk]

they never did, but they still physically disciplined me and yet I turned out just fine. My point is we are raising a soft generation who expect to be coddled, given everything they want, are disrespectful to others, etc.

I'm not a big spanking guy, but have you seen the photos from AP's kid? Scabbed up a few days after the fact. Would you be cool with that?

I was spanked about 3 times in my life. I'm pretty convinced it wouldn't have made a difference one way or the other. I remember a hand print on my butt, but not blood.

Each generation thinks the next one is weak. What did your parents think about your generation? I bet they thought it was a mess. Just like your kids will think about their kids...

 

[EMAN51]

In the mid 60's, while living in SB, I got the belt from my dad. He would tell me "son, this is going to hurt me more than it hurts you". I got reddened rear end. AP went a bit too far. Criminal? Perhaps.

 

[IrishJayhawk]

In the mid 60's, while living in SB, I got the belt from my dad. He would tell me "son, this is going to hurt me more than it hurts you". I got reddened rear end. AP went a bit too far. Criminal? Perhaps.

I've heard that conversation. And I think there are arguments for and against spanking. But I don't know if anyone can make a reasonable argument for beating your child to the point that he bleeds.

Anyone want to try? (I recognize that you're not making that argument.)

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

I've never heard "limp wristed" used as a way to reference anything but gay people. If that wasn't your point, okay. Either way, I disagree with your premise.

That shows demographic or socio-economic disparity in how terms are used. I've actually never heard a gay person referenced as "limp-wristed". I've always recognized it was in reference to the effeminate, which can include some gay people but isn't necessarily indicative of all gay people. It's more often associated with those who don't develop "toughness".

I don't plan to spank my son unless it's the only way he responds. I'd prefer to avoid physical discipline because I want my son to avoid bad behaviors because they are bad, not because he fears his dad or the repercussions.

I was just trying a little reverse classification for the person quoted.

 

[Booslum31]

I'm not a big spanking guy, but have you seen the photos from AP's kid? Scabbed up a few days after the fact. Would you be cool with that?

I was spanked about 3 times in my life. I'm pretty convinced it wouldn't have made a difference one way or the other. I remember a hand print on my butt, but not blood.

Each generation thinks the next one is weak. What did your parents think about your generation? I bet they thought it was a mess. Just like your kids will think about their kids...

Each generation has been 100% correct.

 

[IrishJayhawk]

Each generation has been 100% correct.

I think it's exactly the opposite.

 

[WaveDomer]

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[dublinirish]

How Marcus Vick Found Out About Adrian Peterson

aha mah boy Marcus doing work on twitter which is normal

 

[NDinFL]

How Marcus Vick Found Out About Adrian Peterson

aha mah boy Marcus doing work on twitter which is normal

He's got nothing else to do...

I don't have much to add, but all I'll say is, that I was a hellion as a kid and my dad whooped my ass. Sometimes (most times) I damn well deserved it, and it wasn't to injure me, it was because I couldn't see anything outside of being destructive and disrespectful.

To this day (I'm 28 and a chef) I'm very glad he did, because it helped me learn right from wrong.

I don't think AP did the wrong thing. I think he was raised a certain way.

Whether you agree or not, anyone here that got a butt whoopin knows

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

Re-activating him is more shameful than not suspending him. It says, "We care until it gets in the way of winning." First, the Vikings are total shit and will lose with or without him. Second, I'd rather see a team use the dumb due process argument right away than cower after the loss.

I don't get the "If I wasn't beat I would be a criminal" argument. Do people really think the difference between them and a guy in prison is getting hit with a belt? Okay.

 

[BobD]

Abuse doesn't always mean hitting and hitting doesn't always mean abuse.

I decided not to have kids because I was such a bad kid, I knew I'd never be able to deal with a mini me.


dis·ci·pline
ˈdisəplin/Submit
noun
1.
the practice of training people to obey rules or a code of behavior, using punishment to correct disobedience.
"a lack of proper parental and school discipline"
synonyms: control, training, teaching, instruction, regulation, direction, order, authority, rule, strictness, a firm hand;

 

[pkt77242]

Re-activating him is more shameful than not suspending him. It says, "We care until it gets in the way of winning." First, the Vikings are total shit and will lose with or without him. Second, I'd rather see a team use the dumb due process argument right away than cower after the loss.

I don't get the "If I wasn't beat I would be a criminal" argument. Do people really think the difference between them and a guy in prison is getting hit with a belt? Okay.

The deactivating only as punishment, it was so he could go to Texas turn himself in, post bail, etc. and not be a distraction to the team during the process.

Also when I see the pictures it does make me feel that he did cross a line and went to far with his punishment. Having said that in my places they would never prosecute this (I have family members that worked for Child Protective Services here and I have heard the stories), it would be substantiated as child abuse by the local CPS and then most DA's won't touch it unless it is clear (punching a child in the face and breaking their jaw or nose, breaking other bones, etc) because it is hard to get a jury to convict for child abuse because many people went through something similar as a child (spanking, switches, belts, etc) and thus don't see it as wrong even though the law states that it is.

Also there are some reports of this being the second grand jury with the first declining to file charges. If so that is even more fishy. Adrian Peterson charges weren’t pursued by grand jury first time | ProFootballTalk

 

[TK22867]

Also when I see the pictures it does make me feel that he did cross a line and went to far with his punishment.

How could anyone see those pictures and actually think that type of behavior by AP is OK? I mean, seriously? It makes me sick to my stomach. And stuffing leaves in his child's mouth? Really?

I'm also tired of the "he was raised that way" excuse. Well guess what folks, society changes and you don't get to do the things you used to do or what your parents did.

Guess how my dad was raised? If we're going to play this game, maybe we should start making AP dress in a separate locker room and drink from a separate fountain, because that used to be acceptable in his society when he was growing up.

I believe the "first grand jury refused to indict" has been debunked by the DA.

I'm all for due process, but this is absolutely disgusting.

 

[ResLife Hero]

https://www.facebook.com/AdamSchefter/posts/820559527996690

The following is a statement from Adrian Peterson:
My attorney has asked me not to discuss the facts of my pending case. I hope you can respect that request and help me honor it. I very much want the public to hear from me but I understand that it is not appropriate to talk about the facts in detail at this time. Nevertheless, I want everyone to understand how sorry I feel about the hurt I have brought to my child.
I never wanted to be a distraction to the Vikings organization, the Minnesota community or to my teammates. I never imagined being in a position where the world is judging my parenting skills or calling me a child abuser because of the discipline I administered to my son.
I voluntarily appeared before the grand jury several weeks ago to answer any and all questions they had. Before my grand jury appearance, I was interviewed by two different police agencies without an attorney. In each of these interviews I have said the same thing, and that is that I never ever intended to harm my son. I will say the same thing once I have my day in court.
I have to live with the fact that when I disciplined my son the way I was disciplined as a child, I caused an injury that I never intended or thought would happen. I know that many people disagree with the way I disciplined my child. I also understand after meeting with a psychologist that there are other alternative ways of disciplining a child that may be more appropriate.
I have learned a lot and have had to reevaluate how I discipline my son going forward. But deep in my heart I have always believed I could have been one of those kids that was lost in the streets without the discipline instilled in me by my parents and other relatives. I have always believed that the way my parents disciplined me has a great deal to do with the success I have enjoyed as a man. I love my son and I will continue to become a better parent and learn from any mistakes I ever make.
I am not a perfect son. I am not a perfect husband. I am not a perfect parent, but I am, without a doubt, not a child abuser. I am someone that disciplined his child and did not intend to cause him any injury. No one can understand the hurt that I feel for my son and for the harm I caused him. My goal is always to teach my son right from wrong and that’s what I tried to do that day.
I accept the fact that people feel very strongly about this issue and what they think about my conduct. Regardless of what others think, however, I love my son very much and I will continue to try to become a better father and person.

 

[RDU Irish]

So let me ask the real question of the day, AP was dropped in my fantasy league, is there probably cause to try to pick him up in case this is cleared up and he suits back up this season?

I mean, I could use some love since RGIII started for me this week and Ray Rice was expected to be available starting this week.

 

[zelezo vlk]

So let me ask the real question of the day, AP was dropped in my fantasy league, is there probably cause to try to pick him up in case this is cleared up and he suits back up this season?

I mean, I could use some love since RGIII started for me this week and Ray Rice was expected to be available starting this week.

If he really was dropped pick him up. Why would he be dropped?

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[Sherm Sticky]

If he really was dropped pick him up. Why would he be dropped?

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^This

 

[Irish#1]

So let me ask the real question of the day, AP was dropped in my fantasy league, is there probably cause to try to pick him up in case this is cleared up and he suits back up this season?

I mean, I could use some love since RGIII started for me this week and Ray Rice was expected to be available starting this week.

No love here my brotha'. Given RGIII's history why would you ever pick him?

 

[RDU Irish]

Looks like I will be too far down the waiver order to get Peterson. Nice opportunity for the 0-2 teams though. I could hope a couple guys were sleeping at the wheel but 3 or 4 is too much to let him go unclaimed before I have a shot.

And thanks for the hind-sight on RGIII, I panicked when Russell Wilson was swiped three picks ahead of me. My RB and QB options have gone from bad to worse only two weeks in.

 

[IRISH in MT]

Abuse doesn't always mean hitting and hitting doesn't always mean abuse.

I decided not to have kids because I was such a bad kid, I knew I'd never be able to deal with a mini me.
dis·ci·pline
ˈdisəplin/Submit
noun
1.
the practice of training people to obey rules or a code of behavior, using punishment to correct disobedience.
"a lack of proper parental and school discipline"
synonyms: control, training, teaching, instruction, regulation, direction, order, authority, rule, strictness, a firm hand;[/QUOTE


I too was that sh*thead kid growing up that was always in trouble. It is ironic how strict I am with my kids because I know what I was capable of. I was spanked with the belt over Dad's knee many times. Looking back, I know I deserved everyone of them. Maybe it worked and maybe it didn't but I always knew I was at fault and deserved it. I haved used hand spanking with my own kids NOT with intentions to hurt but to get their attention so I could teach them. Plenty of debate on spanking. However, you never hit so hard you leave bruises or in this case, open wounds on a kid...EVER!

 

[EMAN51]

I, too, was subjected to the open hand/belt form of discipline. It hurt, and I had a red ass, but nothing more. Before each act of corporal punishment, my father used to say "Son, this is going to hurt me more than it will hurt you." Without passing moral judgment, I doubt that this was true for AP's son.

 

[PANDFAN]

Damn now another abuse allegation against another one of his kids

 

[PANDFAN]

A Vikings message board just shutdown because of ap
Being reinstated

 

[IrishJayhawk]

Adrian Peterson of Minnesota Vikings facing second child-abuse accusation - ESPN

 

[irish1958]

It appears AP has a problem with four year olds. How many more does he have? Better keep him away from them.