2014 CFB Coaches Hot Seat

[T Town Tommy]

Doesn't Saban have a clause in his contract that will keep him the highest paid coach in CFB?

Les had that clause at one point. Don't know about now as Saban has put a little distance on him with his last extension.

#thankstexas

 

[T Town Tommy]

Les is not a good coach and he knows where his bread is buttered. He is not leaving this hotbed of talent that is Louisiana to try and win in Michigan. He can win 10 games a year on talent alone as long as he catches a break or two on fourth down to help dig them out of the hole his play calling and sloppy preparation creates. Nice guy, supposed to be a good recruiter, but I bet anybody with a pulse can recruit at LSU.#bagmen

Agree about La talent. They got plenty of it there. Les has calmed down a little from his wild days and has improved his in game play calling and clock management. If he could ever get a top notch QB to go with his stable of RBs, he could be dangerous again. don't know why he can't land him one from next door in Texas. And keep his defense around instead of going to the draft early. He has lost a ton of that defensive talent the last 2-3 years.

 

[Redbar]

Agree about La talent. They got plenty of it there. Les has calmed down a little from his wild days and has improved his in game play calling and clock management. If he could ever get a top notch QB to go with his stable of RBs, he could be dangerous again. don't know why he can't land him one from next door in Texas. And keep his defense around instead of going to the draft early. He has lost a ton of that defensive talent the last 2-3 years.

Very fair, especially coming from an opposing, rival, fan base. More gracious than I could muster.

 

[Wild Bill]

Agree about La talent. They got plenty of it there. Les has calmed down a little from his wild days and has improved his in game play calling and clock management. If he could ever get a top notch QB to go with his stable of RBs, he could be dangerous again. don't know why he can't land him one from next door in Texas. And keep his defense around instead of going to the draft early. He has lost a ton of that defensive talent the last 2-3 years.

He's still searching for one with the right amount of chest.

 

[ickythump1225]

Les is not a good coach and he knows where his bread is buttered. He is not leaving this hotbed of talent that is Louisiana to try and win in Michigan. He can win 10 games a year on talent alone as long as he catches a break or two on fourth down to help dig them out of the hole his play calling and sloppy preparation creates. Nice guy, supposed to be a good recruiter, but I bet anybody with a pulse can recruit at LSU.#bagmen

LSU games are always crazy with some sort of borderline miracle finish to end their games. Les is good at building solid defenses, recruiting good running backs, and decent receivers. He never seems to be able to find a good QB though.

 

[stlnd01]

I dunno. I like Les Miles. Agree with those who wonder why he can never seem to land a decent QB. But LSU isn't winning no 10 games a year on talent alone. They didn't used to before Saban (who, I'd note, Miles has a better winning percentage at LSU than) and the talent's always been there.
That said, he and LSU are a good fit. Not sure he'd really fit in at Michigan anymore. I'm not sure who Michigan goes after if Hoke can't turn it around. Maybe John Harbaugh if this Ray Rice circus sours him on the NFL?

 

[T Town Tommy]

He's still searching for one with the right amount of chest.

Reps... lol

 

[Irish#1]

SMU has a relatively small alumni base, the alumni are mainly disinterested/apathetic to the sports program(s), the program/facilities are 2nd rate (maybe not really even 2nd rate), and Dallas is a pro sports town and UT town. Plus, much of their program "history" is ancient (50-70 years ago), and the most recent run of success the program had (30 years ago) led them to the death penalty, so people still kind of equate good SMU football with dirtiness.

SMU seems like they could have a quality program (and I wish they did), but there are many factors actually preventing it from happening. Baylor met some of the criteria listed above, but at least they were able to remain in the Big XII. That helped spur the changes and advancement of the football program we see today. Even if SMU hired the next Art Briles (or Art Briles himself), it would be almost impossible to duplicate the success Baylor currently enjoys.

SMU has a strong regional alumni base that is obsessed with everything about the school. The last 10 years have seen a resurgence of interest in the sports programs. Obviously, basketball is huge right now because of Larry Brown and his early success. It's rough finding tickets unless you know a season ticket holder. Football games are big business nowadays. It's the place to be seen in Dallas on Saturday because a large portion of the most successful people in Dallas have a connection to the school.

The attitude has been changing, but unfortunately that vibe hasn't traveled far beyond northeast Texas. If the football team showed any consistency in quality, the stigma of the death penalty would stop following them around and creating the stereotype that nobody cares and never will.

It's all about the money and how much the school wants to put into it to get it back to the level of success they enjoyed back in the days of the Pony Express.

 

[ResLife Hero]

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[Redbar]

I dunno. I like Les Miles. Agree with those who wonder why he can never seem to land a decent QB. But LSU isn't winning no 10 games a year on talent alone. They didn't used to before Saban (who, I'd note, Miles has a better winning percentage at LSU than) and the talent's always been there.
That said, he and LSU are a good fit. Not sure he'd really fit in at Michigan anymore. I'm not sure who Michigan goes after if Hoke can't turn it around. Maybe John Harbaugh if this Ray Rice circus sours him on the NFL?

I am not telling anyone to not like Les, but if you look at when the SEC began to rise in prominence it essentially begins with the BCS era. The BCS era made the SEC the "perceived" most dominant conference rightly or wrongly. The BCS era began in 1998, Saban got to LSU in 2000. The BCS era solidified concepts like regional bias and locking down your home state (#bagman). Saban did that in Louisiana and Miles has benefitted from him having done so. It is not a big surprise that he has a better record, Saban had to turn the program around after the Gerry DiNardo years. In an average year show me three teams that should beat LSU on their schedule. TAMU and Ole Miss mind you are new to this elite program status as is South Carolina btw. Besides Alabama and Florida and very recently, a decent out-of conference to open the season, who should beat them? It is not a stretch IMO to say that any decent coach/recruiter could and should win 10 football games at LSU. Why will Les never go to Michigan? Why has Saban made the SEC his collegiate canvas? Spurrier, same question? Why did Bielema leave Wisconsin? These guys know it is hard to look like a great recruiter and a coaching genius outside the SEC.

Also, IMO if you watch a lot of Les Miles called games, (this is pre 2013, when he got Mettenberger and most importantly Cam Cameron) you would see why he has troulble attracting a decent quaterback. His offense is disjointed, unimaginative, and incredibly inconsistent.

 

[BGIF]

Watch Ed O get the Michigan gig...

I'll light a candle.

 

[BGIF]

I dunno. I like Les Miles. Agree with those who wonder why he can never seem to land a decent QB. But LSU isn't winning no 10 games a year on talent alone. They didn't used to before Saban (who, I'd note, Miles has a better winning percentage at LSU than) and the talent's always been there.
That said, he and LSU are a good fit. Not sure he'd really fit in at Michigan anymore. I'm not sure who Michigan goes after if Hoke can't turn it around. Maybe John Harbaugh if this Ray Rice circus sours him on the NFL?

Miles does have a slightly winning percentage, .798, through 2013, than Saban's .750 but Miles has had the advantage of an additional extra half game a year in a 12 game season AND Miles followed Saban's NC Team and the program Saban rebuilt following 9 years of Hallman and DiNardo.

Miles win 1.0 more games a year but plays 0.5 more games so he's about 0.5 wins/season better.


Saban has 48 wins in 5 seasons or 9.6/yr.
Miles has 95 wins in 9 seasons or 10.6/yr.

Saban 64/5 = 12.8 games played/season
Miles 119/9 = 13.2

 

[BGIF]

I am not telling anyone to not like Les, but if you look at when the SEC began to rise in prominence it essentially begins with the BCS era. The BCS era made the SEC the "perceived" most dominant conference rightly or wrongly. The BCS era began in 1998, Saban got to LSU in 2000. The BCS era solidified concepts like regional bias and locking down your home state (#bagman). Saban did that in Louisiana and Miles has benefitted from him having done so. It is not a big surprise that he has a better record, Saban had to turn the program around after the Gerry DiNardo years. In an average year show me three teams that should beat LSU on their schedule. TAMU and Ole Miss mind you are new to this elite program status as is South Carolina btw. Besides Alabama and Florida and very recently, a decent out-of conference to open the season, who should beat them? It is not a stretch IMO to say that any decent coach/recruiter could and should win 10 football games at LSU. Why will Les never go to Michigan? Why has Saban made the SEC his collegiate canvas? Spurrier, same question? Why did Bielema leave Wisconsin? These guys know it is hard to look like a great recruiter and a coaching genius outside the SEC.

Also, IMO if you watch a lot of Les Miles called games, (this is pre 2013, when he got Mettenberger and most importantly Cam Cameron) you would see why he has troulble attracting a decent quaterback. His offense is disjointed, unimaginative, and incredibly inconsistent.

NO. Bear Bryant dominated college football through the 60's and 70's and he did it almost exclusively with home grown talent with an occasional Joe Willie thrown in the mix. Bryant owned Alabama.

Spurrier came to UF in 1990, softened the schedule, didn't leave the Confederacy and UF and the SEC surged post Bama. Stallings put Bama back in the spotlight after the Perkings/Curry years.

Regional bias? Uh, uh not new either. The Solid South was broken by Eishenhower but not in the AP/Coaches/or Heisman balloting. Southern fans still whine about Hornung and Notre Dame in collaboration with the "Eastern Press" stealing the Heisman from Tennessee's Johnny Majors. Bama wrote a book about the "Northern Media" stealing a NC and handing to ND over segregation.

Bagman? Nope, not remotely new. There were bagman and Presidential Handshakes during the days of the SEC's predecessor conference.


The SEC got more proactive as a Conference in 1990 when Roy Kramer was hired as Commissioner. He divided the Conference into two divisions to reduce losses by the big boys, dummy down the schedule across the conference, locked up bowl agreements by contract, revenue sharing, and manufactured the Conference Championship Game to create the illlusion of tough "schedule" althought the CCG isn't on anyone schedule. The extra game created a post season poll boast advantage over the independents like ND, PSU, and FSU.

Kramer also became the BCS Czar and when the Strength of Schedule creampuffs hurt the SEC he orchestrated weaking that component of the selection process.

 

[T Town Tommy]

NO. Bear Bryant dominated college football through the 60's and 70's and he did it almost exclusively with home grown talent with an occasional Joe Willie thrown in the mix. Bryant owned Alabama.

Spurrier came to UF in 1990, softened the schedule, didn't leave the Confederacy and UF and the SEC surged post Bama. Stallings put Bama back in the spotlight after the Perkings/Curry years.

Regional bias? Uh, uh not new either. The Solid South was broken by Eishenhower but not in the AP/Coaches/or Heisman balloting. Southern fans still whine about Hornung and Notre Dame in collaboration with the "Eastern Press" stealing the Heisman from Tennessee's Johnny Majors. Bama wrote a book about the "Northern Media" stealing a NC and handing to ND over segregation.

Bagman? Nope, not remotely new. There were bagman and Presidential Handshakes during the days of the SEC's predecessor conference.


The SEC got more proactive as a Conference in 1990 when Roy Kramer was hired as Commissioner. He divided the Conference into two divisions to reduce losses by the big boys, dummy down the schedule across the conference, locked up bowl agreements by contract, revenue sharing, and manufactured the Conference Championship Game to create the illlusion of tough "schedule" althought the CCG isn't on anyone schedule. The extra game created a post season poll boast advantage over the independents like ND, PSU, and FSU.

Kramer also became the BCS Czar and when the Strength of Schedule creampuffs hurt the SEC he orchestrated weaking that component of the selection process.

Actually Jim Brown should have won the Heisman that year. Nothing against Hornung as he was a do it all both sides of the ball tremendous player. But for Brown to finish fifth in the voting it tells us all exactly what kind of era it was.

I could discredit much of what you state about the SEC and Kramer in your post but I won't. If it makes you feel better then so be it.

 

[BGIF]

Actually Jim Brown should have won the Heisman that year. Nothing against Hornung as he was a do it all both sides of the ball tremendous player. But for Brown to finish fifth in the voting it tells us all exactly what kind of era it was.

Jim Brown was a great pro but he didn't dominate college stats like he did the NFL. His 6.2 YPC was good but wasn't in the Top 20 that year. Tommy McDonald who finished third in the Heisman averaged 7.2 and scored more TDs than Brown. McDonald was actually the Top 1st Place vote getter in the Heisman by 8 votes over Hornung but had about a 40 pt edge in BOTH 2nd and 3rd place votes.

McDonald didn't win because his teammate Jerry Tubbs, Unanimous All-American Center, Lineman of the Year, and Walter Camp Outstanding Player of the Year, finished 4th in the Heisman, together McDonald and Tubbs received more than 600 more votes than Hornung. Tubbs had more 1st place votes than Brown.

No doubt there was racial basis but the other poster commented about the regional aspect of the SEC. I suppose Brown might have gotten a vote from the South. Likewise I doubt Majors got many votes outside the South where he was the only Top 10 finisher. But Majors Dominated the South voters. Brown was the only Top 10 finisher in the East and didn't play in a conference. The West Coast had two top candidates, Brodie and Arnett. The Midwest four, Hornung, Kramer, Parker, and Ploen. The West had the OU teammates McDonald and Tubbs.

Keep in mind in the 50's teams could only be on TV once a year. There was no ESPN, no Conference TV networks, no NBC deal, and no 24 hour news. No internet. Info came from the newspapers. Living in the NY metro area at the time, I can vouch that Syracuse got a lot of local coverage but they didn't get more than an AP or UPI box score in the rest of the country.

I could discredit much of what you state about the SEC and Kramer in your post but I won't. If it makes you feel better then so be it.

Discredit away. There were some bowl deals probably before Kramer was born but he put them on paper and locked them up. Kramer didn't invent divisions but he reinvented the SEC. Before Kramer there was an axiom in the SEC, "you can't win the SEC with two losses!" After Kramer, Les Miles and LSU won an NC with two losses! Gordon Gecko was envious.

 

[BGIF]

Son of Weekend Watch List: A fond farewell to June Jones - CBSSports.com

In no particular order, here are the best choices

Rick Neuheisel, Pac-12 Network, satellite radio analyst: Probably the most dynamic name on this list because of his vast experience. Neuheisel has the personality -- oh, that guitar -- to get the fans energized. Yes, he has a specific plan for SMU. Yes, he would be interested.

Jake Spavital, offensive coordinator, Texas A&M: SMU would be a great starter job for a 29-year old who already has tutored Johnny Manziel and Kenny Hill.

Tom Herman, offensive coordinator, Ohio State: Urban Meyer's right hand man who had developed Braxton Miller into the Big Ten's best offensive player.

Mike Norvell, offensive coordinator, Arizona State: At 32, Norvell has been with Todd Graham eight years. A big part of great offensive teams at Tulsa and ASU.

Philip Montgomery, offensive coordinator, Baylor: A witness of and contributor to Art Briles' rise from Stephenville High School to the Big 12 title. Montgomery has Kevin Kolb, Case Keenum, Robert Griffin III and Bryce Petty on his resume.

 

[PANDFAN]

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[BGIF]

Son of Weekend Watch: Charlie Weis a short timer at Kansas? - CBSSports.com

By Dennis Dodd 9/18/14

Eight possible replacements (in no particular order):

Josh Heupel, OU OC has been linked to the SMU opening.

David Beaty, A&M WR coach and RC: KU receivers coach in '09. co-OC in '11.

Jake Spavital, A&M OC: linked to the SMU opening.

Tom Herman, OSU OC: Also linked to SMU opening. The Big Ten 2013 recruiter of the year

Mack Brown, former Texas coach: It's Kansas but Brown was intrigued by the Army job.

Butch Davis, former UNC/MIA coach: Like Brown wants to coach again.

Baylor coordinators: DC Phil Bennett has been a HC at SMU. Top 20 defense in Waco to go along with OC Phil Montgomery's offense.

 

[Irish#1]

Jim Brown was a great pro but he didn't dominate college stats like he did the NFL. His 6.2 YPC was good but wasn't in the Top 20 that year. Tommy McDonald who finished third in the Heisman averaged 7.2 and scored more TDs than Brown. McDonald was actually the Top 1st Place vote getter in the Heisman by 8 votes over Hornung but had about a 40 pt edge in BOTH 2nd and 3rd place votes.

McDonald didn't win because his teammate Jerry Tubbs, Unanimous All-American Center, Lineman of the Year, and Walter Camp Outstanding Player of the Year, finished 4th in the Heisman, together McDonald and Tubbs received more than 600 more votes than Hornung. Tubbs had more 1st place votes than Brown.

No doubt there was racial basis but the other poster commented about the regional aspect of the SEC. I suppose Brown might have gotten a vote from the South. Likewise I doubt Majors got many votes outside the South where he was the only Top 10 finisher. But Majors Dominated the South voters. Brown was the only Top 10 finisher in the East and didn't play in a conference. The West Coast had two top candidates, Brodie and Arnett. The Midwest four, Hornung, Kramer, Parker, and Ploen. The West had the OU teammates McDonald and Tubbs.

Keep in mind in the 50's teams could only be on TV once a year. There was no ESPN, no Conference TV networks, no NBC deal, and no 24 hour news. No internet. Info came from the newspapers. Living in the NY metro area at the time, I can vouch that Syracuse got a lot of local coverage but they didn't get more than an AP or UPI box score in the rest of the country.

Good points about media coverage. I can remember in the 60's and 70's when they would show how the Heisman voting went after it was over and it typically followed the region the voters were in. Midwest players got the vast majority of their votes from midwest voters, south from the south, etc.. ND players had a leg up on other teams since they were a national brand and many a times had more than their box score published. That allowed them to get votes from other regions where others may not.

P.S. I'm really surprised Charlie has lasted this long at Kansas.

 

[phork]

Where is Hokes replacement?

 

[ulukinatme]

Where is Hokes replacement?

They're gettin' a "Harbrah" or Gruden, of course

 

[BGIF]

Where is Hokes replacement?

I lit a candle for him.

 

[irishff1014]

VT might be looking

 

[Kaneyoufeelit]

VT might be looking

Zero. Shot. At. All.


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[BGIF]

VT might be looking

Beamer's QB has thrown 7 Ints in last 3 games.

 

[irishff1014]

Beamer's QB has thrown 7 Ints in last 3 games.

That hurts!

 

[BGIF]

Michigan v Utah game delayed at the 7:51 mark of the 4Q while Dave Brandon interviews for a new head coach.

 

[Circa]

Holgorson is doing a fine job at WVU! Gotta love the buzz around campus and the state in general!

 

[Irish#1]

Hoke's seat has to be up in flames by now!

 

[stlnd01]

Hoke's seat has to be up in flames by now!

Funny thing is, they could still win the Big Ten. They do have as much talent as anyone they play aside from maybe OSU.