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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>In Tunnel Vision we mentioned where things stood with <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NotreDame?src=hash">#NotreDame</a> and John Reid. Added some more to that here: <a href="http://t.co/ciLn90O6EH">http://t.co/ciLn90O6EH</a> (VIP)</p>— Tom Loy (@TomLoy247) <a href="https://twitter.com/TomLoy247/statuses/491635632586752000">July 22, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Reid: " I don't think ND is recruiting me anymore."

can't say they didn't give him full warning that we may be filled up by time he wants to decide....however these things tend to be fluid and can change with one move
 

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Which means the staff is happy with what they have. Unless it's Sheffield or Marshall (which are both major long shots) we are done in the secondary
 

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Which means the staff is happy with what they have. Unless it's Sheffield or Marshall (which are both major long shots) we are done in the secondary

Does that go the same for Ross? Lucky eludes to the fact that White is a similar prospect to Reid, but I have not heard that about Ross.
 

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Does that go the same for Ross? Lucky eludes to the fact that White is a similar prospect to Reid, but I have not heard that about Ross.

Well sure Ross could be thrown into that mix. I am honestly not sure where we really stand with him. I am not in those staff meeting rooms so I can't exactly say where we stand on Ross. Seems like the staff has moved on from Reid though.
 

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Well sure Ross could be thrown into that mix. I am honestly not sure where we really stand with him. I am not in those staff meeting rooms so I can't exactly say where we stand on Ross. Seems like the staff has moved on from Reid though.

if i remember correctly, he has the ability to move to safety so there is a bit more "flex" in his position
 
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I'm just going back to what Coach D at ISD said about White and Reid being very similar players and ND took White now versus wait on Reid. However, they view guys like Ross differently because they have more flexibility and I'm more than fine with that.
 

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Well sure Ross could be thrown into that mix. I am honestly not sure where we really stand with him. I am not in those staff meeting rooms so I can't exactly say where we stand on Ross. Seems like the staff has moved on from Reid though.

Yeah it is interesting. I wonder if it is spots vs position. What I mean is, we are filling up or feel good about several kids like ESB, Bilal, Coney, etc and are just filling up regardless of the talent at other positions ie Reid and Ross. Well, at least I hope that is the case.
 

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if i remember correctly, he has the ability to move to safety so there is a bit more "flex" in his position

I'm just going back to what Coach D at ISD said about White and Reid being very similar players and ND took White now versus wait on Reid. However, they view guys like Ross differently because they have more flexibility and I'm more than fine with that.

you sure you didn't hear that from COACH PANDFAN????

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yep i believe that is a slight nip/slip
 

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Reid: " I don't think ND is recruiting me anymore."

Woah.

This is what happens when you aren't a 5 star are you are diligent and wait. It is a classic Catch-22. I like Reid a lot and seems like a fantastic kid, so this kind of sucks. If ND really was a school that he might have committed to in the end, then I feel bad for him.

Personally, I would still keep recruiting him because with recruiting these days you never know who might flip on you at the wrong time. Oh well.
 
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Woah.

This is what happens when you aren't a 5 star are you are diligent and wait. It is a classic Catch-22. I like Reid a lot and seems like a fantastic kid, so this kind of sucks. If ND really was a school that he might have committed to in the end, then I feel bad for him.

Personally, I would still keep recruiting him because with recruiting these days you never know who might flip on you at the wrong time. Oh well.

Yeah, same with Lovette. Recruit them both and try to get OVs. If we don't end up with room, we don't end up with room. I don't see the risk in continuing the relationship.
 

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Woah.

This is what happens when you aren't a 5 star are you b, so this kind of sucks. If ND really was a school that he might have committed to in the end, then I feel bad for him.

Personally, I would still keep recruiting him because with recruiting these days you never know who might flip on you at the wrong time. Oh well.

Maybe the staff didn't learn from the Blake deal.
 
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guess you didn't know that Blake is trolling saban and will sign to ND and enroll early

Am I crazy thinking that if something awful happens to Alabama (heaven forbid), ND would be a landing spot for Blake?

The later it goes, the less likely a top 10 team will have a QB spot, and we're conveniently leaving the 2015 QB spot open, not to mention the familiarity between ND and Blake(although it's a rocky relationship right now). Just saying.

I know it's not going to happen, but if things went bad for Alabama (sanctions, Saban left, etc), he'd be desperate to find a legit school.

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Am I crazy thinking that if something awful happens to Alabama (heaven forbid), ND would be a landing spot for Blake?

The later it goes, the less likely a top 10 team will have a QB spot, and we're conveniently leaving the 2015 QB spot open, not to mention the familiarity between ND and Blake(although it's a rocky relationship right now). Just saying.

I know it's not going to happen, but if things went bad for Alabama (sanctions, Saban left, etc), he'd be desperate to find a legit school.

Yes, there is virtually no chance Blake ends up at ND. It would take the most improbable of improbable events for that to happen. Even your wackadoodle scenario wouldn't do it.
 
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Yes, there is virtually no chance Blake ends up at ND. It would take the most improbable of improbable events for that to happen. Even your wackadoodle scenario wouldn't do it.

Hard to take you seriously on this when a few months ago, you were saying the only way Blake doesn't come to ND is if we tank or Kelly leaves :).
 

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Am I crazy thinking that if something awful happens to Alabama (heaven forbid), ND would be a landing spot for Blake?

The later it goes, the less likely a top 10 team will have a QB spot, and we're conveniently leaving the 2015 QB spot open, not to mention the familiarity between ND and Blake(although it's a rocky relationship right now). Just saying.

I know it's not going to happen, but if things went bad for Alabama (sanctions, Saban left, etc), he'd be desperate to find a legit school.

I highly doubt BK and staff would want to go down that path again. No way to know for sure but the Blake situation is one the staff was very unhappy with.
 
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I highly doubt BK and staff would want to go down that path again. No way to know for sure but the Blake situation is one the staff was very unhappy with.

I know it's not happening, but I think the staff would hear him out IF something happened. They'd be crazy not to (unless it's worse than us mere mortals know).

He's a heismen talent.

Edit: No idea how I did the 'thumbs down'. Didn't mean anything by it.
 

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This is what happens when you aren't a 5 star are you are diligent and wait. It is a classic Catch-22. I like Reid a lot and seems like a fantastic kid, so this kind of sucks. If ND really was a school that he might have committed to in the end, then I feel bad for him.

That's the whole thing. IMO, those kids aren't being dilligent, so much as too slow. It sounds good to take it slow when it works out, but when it doesn't, it sucks.

Patiently allowing the process to play itself out may just mean having someone else (here, Ashton White), make your decisions for you. You can say it was all meant to be, but while you are looking for the perfect fit, the perfect fit my fill up!
 

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Hard to take you seriously on this when a few months ago, you were saying the only way Blake doesn't come to ND is if we tank or Kelly leaves :).

In that case, you also don't take Steve Wiltfong, Mike Frank, or any other analyst who said something similar at that time seriously.

The much better angle to throw stones would be my idiotic misread of the Chris Clark situation.
 

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I know it's not happening, but I think the staff would hear him out IF something happened. They'd be crazy not to (unless it's worse than us mere mortals know).

He's a heismen talent.

Edit: No idea how I did the 'thumbs down'. Didn't mean anything by it.

First of all I don't see Blake wanting to come to ND. Push came to shove and he chose the path that doesn't even remotely cross ND's. Add to that how F'd he left ND's coaches and I give this a 0% chance of happening.
 
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In that case, you also don't take Steve Wiltfong, Mike Frank, or any other analyst who said something similar at that time seriously.

The much better angle to throw stones would be my idiotic misread of the Chris Clark situation.

Lol, good call.

I think the staff would hear him out if he contacted them, then visited campus and threw an 80 pass and ran down and caught it before it hit the ground.
 

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First of all I don't see Blake wanting to come to ND. Push came to shove and he chose the path that doesn't even remotely cross ND's. Add to that how F'd he left ND's coaches and I give this a 0% chance of happening.

when i read this for whatever reason i came up w/ a scenario in my head where aaron lynch asked for a letter of recommendation from BK...0% chance it happens
 

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Per an II poster

Just got word from a buddy that plays for St. Joseph's Prep high school that John Reid will tell the coaching staff (includes my friends dad who is TE's coach) where he will be attending college tonight at 6 PM at my friends house. He will most likely will be making this public but not 100% at the moment. My friend also believes PSU is definitely the favorite
 

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After we essentially eliminated ourselves by taking White (not saying it's a bad move), we did PSU a favor by shortening Reid's list of favorites from 2 (ND and PSU) to 1 (PSU).
 
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