'16 CA QB Malik Henry (Florida State Verbal)

[Domina Nostra]

Not everyone is wired like Jimmy Clausen and able to ride into South Bend like Jim McMahon did in Chicago back in the 80's. It takes REAL brass to do it. That's why I like Zaire so much, he knew what ND was all about and he wants the pressure of being the man. He desires it, he expects it. It isn't talk with him.

Nothing would make me happier than 5 years of Malik under center in South Bend.

I remember Brady Quinn being relaly likable and a great leader, but occassionally throwing balls in the dirt on screen plays. A lot of drives stalled simply because he had a lapse.

Clausen was such a contrast. He had a rough start (remember how he would literally run facing the other endzone because he never played behind such a porous line), but by year 2 I remember thinking, "We are not going to see this level of consistent competence for a LONG TIME." He put the ball exactly where it needed to be time and time and time again. I got sick of the fade like everyone else, but he made throws like that look easy (which they are not)! He was not the best QB in the world, but his skill level was excellent.

 

[BobbyMac]

I remember Brady Quinn being relaly likable and a great leader, but occassionally throwing balls in the dirt on screen plays. A lot of drives stalled simply because he had a lapse.

Clausen was such a contrast. He had a rough start (remember how he would literally run facing the other endzone because he never played behind such a porous line), but by year 2 I remember thinking, "We are not going to see this level of consistent competence for a LONG TIME." He put the ball exactly where it needed to be time and time and time again. I got sick of the fade like everyone else, but he made throws like that look easy (which they are not)! He was not the best QB in the world, but his skill level was excellent.

Both were excellent college QB's. Both had some pretty good receivers to throw to also. My point was Clausen had the mentality of a HOF'er from Day 1. That's rare even in Parade All-Americans. Quinn wasn't that guy but by Jr and Sr year, handled the entire job as ND QB very well. Remember, there WILL be a mic shoved in your face EVERY Saturday evening for the whole world to see and hear... and that's not ESPN3 or FoxSportsDenver, that's NBC national with you providing the lead in for Brian Williams and the Evening News.

Pressure baby!

Malik Henry has that at his doorstep... Hey Malik, there is NO better training for Sundays than ND You're gonna live in a fish bowl, travel coast to coast and play in the snow for the rest of your life (NFL).... You may as well go to THE school that best prepares you for that!

Here's to your next 40 years Malik!

 

[Irish#1]

One would have to think a great offensive season would sell some of these kids. However, I'll bet opposing coaches still use Kelly's purple face meltdown from a few years back as ammunition against us.[/QUOTE]

I bet that's water under the bridge at this point. It wasn't a pattern of behavior, it was one outburst.

NO ONE ever used that while trying to recruit a QB against ND.... because they ALL do it.

If they did mention it, they promised to only do it in practice or the film room... not on national tv.

Because they aren't ND... they aren't on national tv every week.

We'll agree to disagree. It was only one time, but remember the old saying "You only get one chance to make a first impression". Coaches will use everything in their arsenal to sell a recruit. I recall a recruit not that long ago mentioning that he didn't know if he could play for a coach like BK and it was in reference to the blow up. Whether he saw that on TV or heard it from another coach I don't know, but he knew about it. It will take a couple of good back to back seasons to show these kids BK knows how to handle a QB.

 

[Luckylucci]

Per Loy ND is very much in it but he was blown away on his FSU visit and that staff is very confident. He'll be trying to get more from Mailk himself this evening.

 

[tko]

How many QB's does FSU need, Jesus.

 

[Luckylucci]

How many QB's does FSU need, Jesus.

Its pretty well known or accepted that they won't be taking 3 QB's this year. One or maybe even two depending on Henry's decision won't be signing there. Good situation for FSU to be in, terrible situation for the kid/s that get the boot.

 

[woolybug25]

Per Loy ND is very much in it but he was blown away on his FSU visit and that staff is very confident. He'll be trying to get more from Mailk himself this evening.

I'm sure he was...

 

[IrishLion]

Per Loy ND is very much in it but he was blown away on his FSU visit and that staff is very confident. He'll be trying to get more from Mailk himself this evening.

So you're telling me Loy is gonna pull a Hopkins and steer Malik to FSU?

 

[koonja]

Safe to say it's either ND or FSU? I don't see him following Josh Rosen to UCLA, but that's just because I wouldn't follow a #1 QB a year later.

Seems like we have a leg up on OSU based on the upcoming visit and his post-summer trip comments?

 

[BobbyMac]

We'll agree to disagree. It was only one time, but remember the old saying "You only get one chance to make a first impression". Coaches will use everything in their arsenal to sell a recruit. I recall a recruit not that long ago mentioning that he didn't know if he could play for a coach like BK and it was in reference to the blow up. Whether he saw that on TV or heard it from another coach I don't know, but he knew about it. It will take a couple of good back to back seasons to show these kids BK knows how to handle a QB.

I'll stick by what I said. Been on both sides of it and no one ever said to me, "You wanna get yelled at by Knight or Keady every day???" when I was in high school... nor did I say that to someone knowing that we were gonna be in his grill like a drill sergeant.

Can't wait for the first time Richt lays into Eason...

I have always thought that was the Eason's excuse on why they weren't heading to South Bend.

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[BobbyMac]

Wait a minute....

Loy is an FSU alum?

I had to listen to Pat Haden call ND games for how long and now I have to listen to a Criminole give me all the Irish news???

I'm beginning to think the atheists are on to something. :-(

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[GBdomer]

Wait a minute....

Loy is an FSU alum?

I had to listen to Pat Haden call ND games for how long and now I have to listen to a Criminole give me all the Irish news???

I'm beginning to think the atheists are on to something. :-(

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...you didn't know this?

 

[PANDFAN]

I'm sure he was...

Darby was the film director and producer

 

[Luckylucci]

Wait a minute....

Loy is an FSU alum?

I had to listen to Pat Haden call ND games for how long and now I have to listen to a Criminole give me all the Irish news???

I'm beginning to think the atheists are on to something. :-(

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First and foremost, Eason wanted a prostyle offense that would prepare him for the NFL.

 

[irishog77]

...you didn't know this?

He should've known a month ago.

 

[BobbyMac]

...you didn't know this?

No. I don't pay much attention to the personal bio's of the talking heads. Never saw it mentioned in a thread until today. But to be honest, I never paid much attention any of the ND recruiting at this depth until I found how quickly IE forums load on my phone... and once it hits the net the 20 top posters dissect it for me so I don't have to. So, I'm only 2 months into it and all I've learned is... until Wiltfong chimes in, it's all just bs... and then it's only about 90% definite.

Can't Loy get reassigned or something?

*** j/k Mr. Loy... I enjoy reading your pieces... just the right amount of homerism... this coming from a White Sox fan who's had to listen to Hawk Harrelson for the better part of his adult life.

 

[BobbyMac]

First and foremost, Eason wanted a prostyle offense that would prepare him for the NFL.

 

[Domina Nostra]

I'm not attached to Henry the way I was to Kyle Allen or Blake Barnett.

I like Pass and Patterson just as much. I'll be perfectly happy with anyone high talent QB who is blown away by ND.

At this point I want someone who LOVES ND. Someone like Kizer (or Zaire).

 

[koonja]

https://twitter.com/malik_henry16/status/499410986839724032

Fack, my bad guys. I thought it read he was announcing at the UA game. Sorry for the bump.

 

[Irish Man3]

He keeps in regular contact with ND. He initiates it. We have a lot in our favor right now.

FSU is playing the two sport/Winston card right now. Obviously the longer it drags out the more unpredictable this becomes.

Still feel good about where we sit at the moment.

 

[PANDFAN]

posted in the fall camp thread because Tom Loy was talking about stuff but then switched to recruiting...


both henry and patterson will be at michigan game....feels if we push for either he likes our chances...depends on who we lay out the red carpet for

 

[dwshade]

According to reliable poster on II (sloth) who seems to have a contact with Henry, he now says he was told Henry is a strong lean to ND as of now.

 

[koonja]

According to reliable poster on II (sloth) who seems to have a contact with Henry, he now says he was told Henry is a strong lean to ND as of now.

Fuel up the fun bus!

 

[IrishFanJMercy]

Who here thinks that Golson comes back for his final year or leaves early? Me I don't really see him leaving early to be honest, but at the same time i wouldn't be against it. I want Malik to get his chance to shine as well.

 

[Luckylucci]

Who here thinks that Golson comes back for his final year or leaves early? Me I don't really see him leaving early to be honest, but at the same time i wouldn't be against it. I want Malik to get his chance to shine as well.

Malik has 4 years including this one. Even if Golson comes back he'll still have 2, thats plenty of time. I highly doubt Golson leaves early but if he does I will be ecstatic as that means we had one heck of a year.

 

[Ndaccountant]

Malik has 4 years including this one. Even if Golson comes back he'll still have 2, thats plenty of time. I highly doubt Golson leaves early but if he does I will be ecstatic as that means we had one heck of a year.

Not to nit, but Clausen had a heck of a year his junior year while ND was basically meh. It's possible that Golson thrives while ND stagnates.

 

[Luckylucci]

Not to nit, but Clausen had a heck of a year his junior year while ND was basically meh. It's possible that Golson thrives while ND stagnates.

It is possible but I highly doubt this defense is going to be as bad as that one was. From just a individual talent perspective this D has light years more talent. We have quality players at each level, with a lot more depth.

 

[dwshade]

If Golson has a great year ND will have a great year. Everyone is worried about the defense But I believe they will be a lot better than people think. As for Golson leaving early I don't see it. NFL people would want to see two years production from him given his lack of NFL QB stature.

 

[Ricochet]

Golson isn't leaving early for the NFL! Sorry but if we are truly being honest with ourselves then we as a whole would realize that Golson hasn't yet been good let alone great.

Golson has had a handful of flashes but other than that he's been average at best.

Hopefully that will change this season but for him to leave early he would need to have a season for the ages.

Last go around and what we saw in the spring from Golson was more or the same that he can't throw a receiver open.

Tommy had an excuse of lack of physical ability but Golson consistently missed open seam routes and couldn't make the pass to receivers on timing plays he need to see them open and by then it's to late.

All to often his strong arm was negated when going for long vertical passes because his timing was off because instead of putting it to the spot he was suppose to lead the WR to and let him break on it he would hold onto it to long looking for separation and it turned into a jump-ball situation.

The point is he's not leaving early. Even if he's awesome this season he doesn't have enough history for them to trust what they saw for only 1 season especially when he doesn't have prototype size and other measurables.

 

[BobbyMac]

Not to nit, but Clausen had a heck of a year his junior year while ND was basically meh. It's possible that Golson thrives while ND stagnates.

Can't see ND being stagnate this year. If Golson has numbers that impress, ND is going to be scoring in the mid / upper 30's and outscoring everybody but FSU. Clausen had a good O line that year, I would say this year's line is more physically talented but we'll see... and Bryant, Folston & McDaniels are probably gonna be better than Allen, Hughes, Gray and Riddick in rushing.

What Clausen had over this team is receivers. (and I think this team has fine receivers) There are SIX guys off the '09 team catching balls in the NFL this year and stat for stat, Golden Tate probably should have won the Heismann... had Tebow not been at Florida.