'13 PA OT Mike McGlinchey (Notre Dame Signed LOI)

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Yep. The only exception is on "obvious kicking situations." You could throw to a #70 tight end on a fake field goal / fake punt, but it needs to be fourth down or the end of a half or some other "kicking situation."
 

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You can't "report in" in the NCAA like you can in the NFL. If you're wearing anything from 50 to 79, you're automatically ineligible no matter where you line up.

Possible dumb question, but why not change his number?

Can you be on the Oline (TGCGT) with #80?
Ex. Could your center be #88 or something?
 

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Possible dumb question, but why not change his number?

Can you be on the Oline (TGCGT) with #80?
Ex. Could your center be #88 or something?

You need to have five guys with "lineman numbers" out there. So your "flex" OT/TE guy could wear 80 but then he wouldn't be able to play "regular" offensive line if you needed to move him over due to injury or some such.
 

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You need to have five guys with "lineman numbers" out there. So your "flex" OT/TE guy could wear 80 but then he wouldn't be able to play "regular" offensive line if you needed to move him over due to injury or some such.

I guess with McGlinchey we could have him switch numbers mid-game if necessary though. I wanna say I recall at least one game in a recent season in which a ND player had the same number as another player on the opposite side of the ball, but the two players were on a special teams unit together, so one of them changed jerseys when that special teams unit took the field. Can't remember who the player was though ... does that ring any bells for anyone else?

Anyway, it seems McGlinchey could wear his normal 68 but have a jersey with a number in the 80s ready in case we want to put him in at TE. Won't work if he's a regular player on the OL this season but will work for as long as he's a backup (which he may never be, if he's as good as advertised).
 

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If he doesn't start on the line, I would love to see him with a TE#.
Having a 6'9" target in the redzone, geez.
 

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I believe they're talking about packages, not permanent changes.

Right. The discussion here is that we need someone to fill Niklas's role as a physical blocking TE, and Kelly said a late-season presser that McGlinchey has freakish athleticism and could play tight end at a lot of schools, so some of us are wondering if McGlinchey could be used situationally as a tight end in red zone situations and such.
 

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Right. The discussion here is that we need someone to fill Niklas's role as a physical blocking TE, and Kelly said a late-season presser that McGlinchey has freakish athleticism and could play tight end at a lot of schools, so some of us are wondering if McGlinchey could be used situationally as a tight end in red zone situations and such.

^this, exactly.
 

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Right. The discussion here is that we need someone to fill Niklas's role as a physical blocking TE, and Kelly said a late-season presser that McGlinchey has freakish athleticism and could play tight end at a lot of schools, so some of us are wondering if McGlinchey could be used situationally as a tight end in red zone situations and such.

Ahh. Thanks.
 
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Can someone tell me why you lose the extra receiver? Why can't the extra tackle just report in as an eligible receiver?

Also, if the second guy even has an 80 number, he still is not eligible if he is covered. The second guy from the end right on the line is not eligible, no matter what his number.
 

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I guess with McGlinchey we could have him switch numbers mid-game if necessary though. I wanna say I recall at least one game in a recent season in which a ND player had the same number as another player on the opposite side of the ball, but the two players were on a special teams unit together, so one of them changed jerseys when that special teams unit took the field. Can't remember who the player was though ... does that ring any bells for anyone else?

Anyway, it seems McGlinchey could wear his normal 68 but have a jersey with a number in the 80s ready in case we want to put him in at TE. Won't work if he's a regular player on the OL this season but will work for as long as he's a backup (which he may never be, if he's as good as advertised).

I know we had 2 guys with the same number against Pitt in 2012 on the FG block team and they DIDN'T switch numbers lol. Just got lucky and the refs didn't catch it. It was the kick that they shanked in OT that would have won them the game. Was it Bennett and CB with number 2? Can't remember that part for sure.
 
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Next year, not counting any of the newbies, Hiestand has several options to choose from, all of whom will probably make NFL teams later in life.

Elmer is number 1. The only question is what position he plays.
Lombard is number two. He's a guard if he's healthy.
NMart is number three. He's the center if he's healthy.
Stanley is number four. He's probably one of the tackles.
.....THEN.....
Hiestand has two youngsters of elite talent and nastiness: McGlinchey and Bivin. If Lombard and NMart are healthy, only one will start.

That line would likely be:

Stanley/ Elmer/ NMart/ Lombard/ McGlinchey [possibly flip tackles]. Elmer is not "wasted" at guard [though in my opinion he is the best tackle of the lot], because Kelly's spread reduces the differences between guard and tackle play somewhat [still plenty of athletic pass-blocking in space], and Elmer's savagery translates into violent bull-run-blocking as well. Notice that ALL our guys are "tackles".

If one of NMart or Lombard can't go full bore, then in my opinion Bivin starts --- at either the center or guard position. The conceivable variation is if the player out is NMart, then Hegarty [given his somewhat surprising near-stellar performance vs BYU] holds the Center position.

If BOTH NMart and Lombard can't go, then my guess is both Matt and Hunter are in. However you view it, Coach Harry seems to be likely to have six or seven elite line prospects ready to play, a tested veteran [Hanratty] ready for emergencies, and Montelus and McGovern waiting in the wings. My guess is Harrell will be serviceable as well.

When one focusses on this array of power, and the four 2014 mountains soon to join, I'm excited for our offense over many years to come, and astonished that we can still interest new elite OLinemen to join this Brotherhood of Silent Destroyers. Whoever comes to ND for OLine is telling us that he's pretty dammed confident of his abilities --- and REALLY likes what Coach Harry accomplishes.

Why is everyone leaving Matt Hegarty off of the board? He started at the end of the season and did a masterful job against Stanford. I see him as still numero uno, until someone moves him out. At worst he is number two, and first in a guard.
 
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Why is everyone leaving Matt Hegarty off of the board? He started at the end of the season and did a masterful job against Stanford. I see him as still numero uno, until someone moves him out. At worst he is number two, and first in a guard.

I think he should be the favorite over Martin, at center.

LT: McGlinchey
LG: Elmer
C: Hegarty
RG: Lombard
RT: Stanley

But McGlinchey is just a RS-Freshman, whereas the rest of the guys have started multiple games. Shouldn't the OL look like this then?

LT: Elmer
LG: Hegarty
C: Martin
RG: Lombard
RT: Stanley
 

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Stanley has left tackle qualities. He's got the length, size and is a "freak of nature" (a term coined by teammates due to his athletic ability). I think the one year of seasoning at RT has opened the doors for him to take over as the LT.

I'd line up as such:

LT: Stanley
LG: Hanratty
C: Martin
RG: Lombard
RT: Elmer

with McGlinchey being the third tackle, and Hegarty the next in at any of the three interior positions. But with Martin possibly out for spring practice, and Lombard a ?, that may obliviously change.
 

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Why is everyone leaving Matt Hegarty off of the board? He started at the end of the season and did a masterful job against Stanford. I see him as still numero uno, until someone moves him out. At worst he is number two, and first in a guard.

I don't. I have him starting over Martin at Center.

Stanley--Lombard--Hegarty--Martin--Elmer

But personally, I think Elmer and Stanley are the only locks. I would not be mildly surprised by any combination of Martin or Hegarty at OC, and Martin, Hegarty, Hanratty, and Lombard, at OG.

I also expect Biven and Nelson to push the OGs and McGlinchy to push for OT time.
 
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That was fun to watch.

Side note: Mike is a giant. He might be a lottery pick in 3-4 years.
 

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If his athleticism is as good as the coaches say it is. I'm not sure how he isn't at RT against Rice. I like Hegarty and Hanratty but I'll be shocked if they are better OL than he is come the end of August.
 

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Makes Corey look short and Kelly look like a munchkin. Corey hammed it up pretty good in the video.

I'm not sure how well they are listening but you can bet the nutrition lady has their attention.
 

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Anyone know Mike's weight? The high school pic in his thread here on page 1 makes him look around 250
 

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Listed at 6'7", 300 pounds (damn!) in the spring roster. If I had to guess, he'll be around 305-310 come August 30th.

Right I think it was the guys at II that mentioned he could eventually be at 6'7 330 with very little body fat. They said he is one of the most fit looking OL they've ever seen.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Irish A-to-Z: Mike*McGlinchey <a href="http://t.co/Vfz78LUTQj">http://t.co/Vfz78LUTQj</a></p>— Keith Arnold (@KeithArnold) <a href="https://twitter.com/KeithArnold/statuses/492424616904646656">July 24, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Thanks Res and Keith!

You realize that with all the powerful things said about Mike in this article, the strong subtext is that the offensive line recruiting, evaluation, and coaching at Notre Dame is elite? Once again, HH is the (mildly) unsung hero. But today I got an appreciation for Brian Kelly. He is the glue that took what was on Weis's roster and built it into what Harry took over. Nice to see that continuity and strong focus from the coaching staff. The article points out that the staff has hit it out the park four times at least; here is to Mike being the fifth!
 

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To give yourself a reasonable chance of being an elite football team, we all know that it takes a list of things:

A). Powerful Lines and the staff to bring out that power under precision and controlled violence;

B). A dynamic playmaker at quarterback and the coach to bring out the combination of disciplined general plus riverboat gambler in that player;

C). SPEED everywhere in proper expectation of what you want at different positions and coordinators who actually want to emphasize that speed;

D). Enough athleticism to make schemes work and a brilliant head coach capable of constructing and overseeing elite schemes, and massaging them to fit circumstances; {every player doesn't have to be an Olympian talent, but every player must be at least impressive.}

E). Player leadership and a staff and schemes which encourage some degree of individual flourishing both on the field and in the off-field athlete interactions.

Each of us can decide what we have built here under Kelly, with Harry, and with the replacement of Diaco by Van Gorder. I, in whatever foggy view I have of it, see A-->D as areas where we are exploding into something really special. I see E as a quality which seems more difficult than the others. I believe that we'll always get some leadership out of the OLine --- and that Harry's style facilitates that --- maybe Big Mike will be one, but he'll probably have to share it with Elmer as time passes. Controversially, I sense that Diaco's robotic defensive scheme was NOT conducive to facilitating leadership --- it placed all players as gears in a clock. Thankfully he INHERITED a bunch of leadership [Manti, KLM, et al] which all graduated, leaving us deficient last season . Van Gorder's less robotic approach may help with that. And, also controversially, Notre Dame's greater tendency to have actual human beings playing football [esp. "RKGs"] makes it a little tougher in my mind to get hard-assed semi-violent on-field leadership happening. This is why I smile when I hear that a guy like McGlinchey is on-the-field "mean" and that his line-mates [Elmer and NMart] are too. {hopefully they all get this.}

If Kelly can get the "spontaneous" leadership that ND needs [it can't really be "planned" no matter what gimmicks he has been using to try to raise that up --- he has these leader groups and other occasions where he builds team unity, but I doubt that they can create true leadership that way], then I believe that ND is ready. And, assuming we can keep the critical staff [most especially Hiestand, Van Gorder, Alford, and Coach himself], we're ready for a decade.
 
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To give yourself a reasonable chance of being an elite football team, we all know that it takes a list of things:

A). Powerful Lines and the staff to bring out that power under precision and controlled violence;

B). A dynamic playmaker at quarterback and the coach to bring out the combination of disciplined general plus riverboat gambler in that player;

C). SPEED everywhere in proper expectation of what you want at different positions and coordinators who actually want to emphasize that speed;

D). Enough athleticism to make schemes work and a brilliant head coach capable of constructing and overseeing elite schemes, and massaging them to fit circumstances; {every player doesn't have to be an Olympian talent, but every player must be at least impressive.}

E). Player leadership and a staff and schemes which encourage some degree of individual flourishing both on the field and in the off-field athlete interactions.

Each of us can decide what we have built here under Kelly, with Harry, and with the replacement of Diaco by Van Gorder. I, in whatever foggy view I have of it, see A-->D as areas where we are exploding into something really special. I see E as a quality which seems more difficult than the others. I believe that we'll always get some leadership out of the OLine --- and that Harry's style facilitates that --- maybe Big Mike will be one, but he'll probably have to share it with Elmer as time passes. Controversially, I sense that Diaco's robotic defensive scheme was NOT conducive to facilitating leadership --- it placed all players as gears in a clock. Thankfully he INHERITED a bunch of leadership [Manti, KLM, et al] which all graduated, leaving us deficient last season . Van Gorder's less robotic approach may help with that. And, also controversially, Notre Dame's greater tendency to have actual human beings playing football [esp. "RKGs"] makes it a little tougher in my mind to get hard-assed semi-violent on-field leadership happening. This is why I smile when I hear that a guy like McGlinchey is on-the-field "mean" and that his line-mates [Elmer and NMart] are too. {hopefully they all get this.}
If Kelly can get the "spontaneous" leadership that ND needs [it can't really be "planned" no matter what gimmicks he has been using to try to raise that up --- he has these leader groups and other occasions where he builds team unity, but I doubt that they can create true leadership that way], then I believe that ND is ready. And, assuming we can keep the critical staff [most especially Hiestand, Van Gorder, Alford, and Coach himself], we're ready for a decade.

Reps!

Independently, each point is rep-worthy and a key concept.
 
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