'12 CA CB Tee Shepard (Ole Miss Transfer)

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en data-scribe-reduced-action-queue="><p>Tee Shepard was one of my favorite dudes I met at ND! Wish him luck at Mississippi State!!!</p>— Robby Toma (@RobJob293) <a href="https://twitter.com/RobJob293/statuses/430060247449755648">February 2, 2014</a></blockquote>
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This speaks volume at the kind of person Tee is.

Also, take into account he was at ND for what... two or three months?

You're goddamn right (insert Walter White gif) I'll wish him luck!
 

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Didn't he not actually attend high school his normal senior year? (fall of '11)? Or was it just that he couldn't play football and then "EE"d to Notre Dame?
Which reminds me: This kid's whole last four years are like some big cautionary tale. Hope he makes it to good things at Miss. State.

It was always rather fuzzy to me what actually happened. As I recall he transferred high schools going into his senior year supposedly to focus on his academics. His old school/coach objected to be playing for the new school. The state athletic regulatory group reviewed the reasons for transfer and determined they did not comply with the requirements for eligibility. Thus he was ruled ineligible to play his senior year.

He graduated early (Dec '11) then "enrolled" at ND but was not allowed to practice with the team. It was also reported by students that he was not attending class although it was not clear if he was actually enrolled in classes. We all assumed he had.

The not practicing was a red flag to me as in the past that has meant an NCAA Clearinghouse issue which is not uncommon with mutliple transcripts with transfer recruits. Frequently it's a question if Math 101 (FOR EXAMPLE) at one school and Math 102 at the second school qualify as two separate requirements for the Core Courses required. The descriptions might be different but the actual course work might be redundant covering similar material thus leaving the recruit a course short if he only took the bare minimum of required core courses.

Keep in mind that no RECRUIT as defined by NCAA regs can receive an NCAA scholarship (acutally called a Grant In Aid) until he is certified by the NCAA Clearinghouse with checks GPA in the required Cores Courses and the ACT/SAT Test Score on their sliding scale. SO without Clearinghouse Certification there is/was no scholarship. The recruit is in limbo.

A number of years ago ND or other colleges would issue a comment such as: "The NCAA believes there may be an issue with this recruit's HS academics. The Clearinghouse will advise when he is cleared until then he will be held out of practice in accordance with NCAA procedures until certification is received." With Tee there was no annoucement nor press release.

Then there was a story that he was leaving which Kelly confirmed with no details per FERPA. I believe Kelly responded to a reporter's question, "You'll have to ask him. That's all we can say." Tee then commented that he had a health issue. A phyical had detected a heart issue. Subsequently it became a congential condition that was "known" by coaches.

The description was vague and varied.

Tee left ND.

Then some months later (summertime) a coach at a J.C. in CA reported to the press that Tee was enrolled at his school. (The quote was posted in Tee's thread) But he never showed up. The next year he was reported to be enrolled in a Mississippi J.C. That was interesting as to why a kid for the west coast and limited resources would travel 2,000 miles to go JUCO when there are JUCO football factories in CA (The O.J. Simpson route to college).

Then he popped up on recruiting services this year. Then lo and behold it turned up that he still had not been cleared by the Clearinghouse as there was an issue over a Correspondence Course deemed unacceptable by the NCAA. I found that interesting as I didn't think ND accepted HS correspondence courses particularly in the case of an academically challenged HS recruit coming to ND as Early Entrance.


As a Dec '11 HS "grad" I believe the NCAA on paper considers him a '12 grad (regardless of which year he is assigned as a COUNTER in the 85/25 rules) as his first college season of eligibility on his 5 year window to play 4 seasons NCAA eligibility clock would have been the Fall of '12.

Now the NCAA has a different clock start date depending on when a student enrolls in college, or J.C. or doesn't go to school. So the question on Tee's clock is was he enrolled and attending class at ND according to the NCAA determination? IF they deem he wasn't, I believe his clock started when he first attended classes at J.C.

Then again, considering the Carlisle "hardship" transfer and the Vanderdoes "transfer" waiver (I don't believe Vanderdoes attended any classes at ND) it depends on how the NCAA choses to interpret their rules.

I would expect them to determine available for the '15 NFL Draft as an approved underclassmen.
 
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This speaks volume at the kind of person Tee is.

Also, take into account he was at ND for what... two or three months?

You're goddamn right (insert Walter White gif) I'll wish him luck!

This actually also speaks volumes about the kind of person Robby Toma is.

Nice post BGIF! Good and accurate recitation. Thanks. (Laughingly stated, the only thing you forgot in your study was the midnight tapes. The series of video's Tee created in the locker room [etc] in the middle of the night, showing his footwork, and other skills.)
 
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from what i remember a couple of ND players said good things about Tee, especially the DB's i think Bennett was saying on twitter how Tee showed him some footwork drills and stuff.
 

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Well, Tee can get his degree in Poultry Engineering. That is a major at MSU. Its a decent school academically. I have several family & friends that went there. I love to bring up State's chicken engineering program to them. Haha!

Also, Mullen does a pretty good job of making sure his players attend class & make the grade.
 
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Well, Tee can get his degree in Poultry Engineering. That is a major at MSU. Its a decent school academically. I have several family & friends that went there. I love to bring up State's chicken engineering program to them. Haha!

Also, Mullen does a pretty good job of making sure his players attend class & make the grade.

Half the time I cannot tell if someone is pulling my leg, I mean drumstick, or just ruffling my feathers!
 

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Well, Tee can get his degree in Poultry Engineering. That is a major at MSU. Its a decent school academically. I have several family & friends that went there. I love to bring up State's chicken engineering program to them. Haha!

Also, Mullen does a pretty good job of making sure his players attend class & make the grade.

Auburn vets have told me with a straight face that the State Poultry Engineering Degree is a chicken shit program.
 

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This actually also speaks volumes about the kind of person Robby Toma is.

Nice post BGIF! Good and accurate recitation. Thanks. (Laughingly stated, the only thing you forgot in your study was the midnight tapes. The series of video's Tee created in the locker room [etc] in the middle of the night, showing his footwork, and other skills.)

I remembered the fancy footwork video in the locker room. I didn't include it to keep the response brief!
 

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It was always rather fuzzy to me what actually happened. As I recall he transferred high schools going into his senior year supposedly to focus on his academics. His old school/coach objected to be playing for the new school. The state athletic regulatory group reviewed the reasons for transfer and determined they did not comply with the requirements for eligibility. Thus he was ruled ineligible to play his senior year.

He graduated early (Dec '11) then "enrolled" at ND but was not allowed to practice with the team. It was also reported by students that he was not attending class although it was not clear if he was actually enrolled in classes. We all assumed he had.

The not practicing was a red flag to me as in the past that has meant an NCAA Clearinghouse issue which is not uncommon with mutliple transcripts with transfer recruits. Frequently it's a question if Math 101 (FOR EXAMPLE) at one school and Math 102 at the second school qualify as two separate requirements for the Core Courses required. The descriptions might be different but the actual course work might be redundant covering similar material thus leaving the recruit a course short if he only took the bare minimum of required core courses.

Keep in mind that no RECRUIT as defined by NCAA regs can receive an NCAA scholarship (acutally called a Grant In Aid) until he is certified by the NCAA Clearinghouse with checks GPA in the required Cores Courses and the ACT/SAT Test Score on their sliding scale. SO without Clearinghouse Certification there is/was no scholarship. The recruit is in limbo.

A number of years ago ND or other colleges would issue a comment such as: "The NCAA believes there may be an issue with this recruit's HS academics. The Clearinghouse will advise when he is cleared until then he will be held out of practice in accordance with NCAA procedures until certification is received." With Tee there was no annoucement nor press release.

Then there was a story that he was leaving which Kelly confirmed with no details per FERPA. I believe Kelly responded to a reporter's question, "You'll have to ask him. That's all we can say." Tee then commented that he had a health issue. A phyical had detected a heart issue. Subsequently it became a congential condition that was "known" by coaches.

The description was vague and varied.

Tee left ND.

Then some months later (summertime) a coach at a J.C. in CA reported to the press that Tee was enrolled at his school. (The quote was posted in Tee's thread) But he never showed up. The next year he was reported to be enrolled in a Mississippi J.C. That was interesting as to why a kid for the west coast and limited resources would travel 2,000 miles to go JUCO when there are JUCO football factories in CA (The O.J. Simpson route to college).

Then he popped up on recruiting services this year. Then lo and behold it turned up that he still had not been cleared by the Clearinghouse as there was an issue over a Correspondence Course deemed unacceptable by the NCAA. I found that interesting as I didn't think ND accepted HS correspondence courses particularly in the case of an academically challenged HS recruit coming to ND as Early Entrance.


As a Dec '11 HS "grad" I believe the NCAA on paper considers him a '12 grad (regardless of which year he is assigned as a COUNTER in the 85/25 rules) as his first college season of eligibility on his 5 year window to play 4 seasons NCAA eligibility clock would have been the Fall of '12.

Now the NCAA has a different clock start date depending on when a student enrolls in college, or J.C. or doesn't go to school. So the question on Tee's clock is was he enrolled and attending class at ND according to the NCAA determination? IF they deem he wasn't, I believe his clock started when he first attended classes at J.C.

Then again, considering the Carlisle "hardship" transfer and the Vanderdoes "transfer" waiver (I don't believe Vanderdoes attended any classes at ND) it depends on how the NCAA choses to interpret their rules.

I would expect them to determine available for the '15 NFL Draft as an approved underclassmen.

Nice recap. That's pretty much what I remember. Not casting stones towards Tee, because he always wanted to be here, but I suspect it was academics and not a medical condition that required him to leave.
 

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Nice recap. That's pretty much what I remember. Not casting stones towards Tee, because he always wanted to be here, but I suspect it was academics and not a medical condition that required him to leave.

It was ACADEMIC.

He is headed back to J.C. this.Fall as he still has NOT gotten Clearinghouse (NCAA Eligibility Center) certification to receive an NCAA scholarship. He did NOT have it in '12 so he had to leave ND or pay his own way which was not an option for him.

If he gets his JUCO degree he would qualify for an NCAA scholarship at a Div 1 school.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/OleMiss?src=hash">#OleMiss</a> signee Tee Shepard has passed all 4 of his summer school classes and is set to play this season with 3 years of eligibility left</p>— Greg Biggins (@GregBiggins) <a href="https://twitter.com/GregBiggins/statuses/492418963049959424">July 24, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Be that as it may...

Shepard's a tremendous talent that wanted to be Irish very badly, but a significant learning disability and some very poor guidance in high school prevented that from happening. I'm hoping he gets a genuine opportunity to prove himself as a DI player, and it looks like that might be happening now. So, good for him.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/OleMiss?src=hash">#OleMiss</a> signee Tee Shepard has passed all 4 of his summer school classes and is set to play this season with 3 years of eligibility left</p>— Greg Biggins (@GregBiggins) <a href="https://twitter.com/GregBiggins/statuses/492418963049959424">July 24, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Here's hoping that Tee can finally succeed both in the classroom and on the field. His hearing loss and learning disability have been quite a challenge along the way. I hope Ole Miss has an academic support program in place that can help Tee succeed in the classroom.
 

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Here's hoping that Tee can finally succeed both in the classroom and on the field. His hearing loss and learning disability have been quite a challenge along the way. I hope Ole Miss has an academic support program in place that can help Tee succeed in the classroom.

It is Ole Miss, I don't think the players go to class.
 

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Here's hoping that Tee can finally succeed both in the classroom and on the field. His hearing loss and learning disability have been quite a challenge along the way. I hope Ole Miss has an academic support program in place that can help Tee succeed in the classroom.

It's Ole Miss and the SEC, so probably not. But good luck to him.
 

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He has 3 years left? Geez, it seems like forever ago.

I'm with you man. I was counting on my fingers because I had no idea he had so much left.

I had to go back and check it too. Every recruit gets 5 years to play 4 seasons after graduating high school. Shepard was part of the '12 class, which means his eligibility runs out in 2017. It does seem like forever ago, though.

It is Ole Miss, I don't think the players go to class.

I was going to suggest that their co-ed "tutors" may do their homework for them in between service calls, but that seems like a lot of multitasking for a "Lady" Rebel. Probably simpler just to park them in joke majors and hand out As to empty seats.
 

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It is Ole Miss, I don't think the players go to class.

I know your exaggerating to make a point and that it's popular on IE to trash the academic programs at other universities, especially the SEC, but these universities do have programs set up to assist their students and student-athletes to succeed in the classroom. Their academic programs may not be as prestigious as Notre Dame's, but student-athletes can earn a degree that will benefit them if professional sports is not an option. Ole Miss has quite a few services available to their student-athletes. Not every athlete attending a SEC school skips out on all of their classes.

OLEMISSSPORTS.COM - OLE MISS Official Athletic Site - Academic Support

Tee deserves to be in a special category. He wanted to attend Notre Dame and play football. He signed his LOI and would still be at the University of Notre Dame if his academic limitations hadn't prevented him from staying. He does not belong in the same group as those who left the University of Notre Dame for other reasons or failed to honor their verbal commitment at the last minute (Lynch, Vanderdoes, Anzalone, Keil, etc.).

I will continue to root for Tee to make it.
 
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I know your exaggerating to make a point and that it's popular on IE to trash the academic programs at other universities, especially the SEC, but these universities do have programs set up to assist their students and student-athletes to succeed in the classroom. Their academic programs may not be as prestigious as Notre Dame's, but student-athletes can earn a degree that will benefit them if professional sports is not an option. Ole Miss has quite a few services available to their student-athletes. Not every athlete attending a SEC school skips out on all of their classes.

OLEMISSSPORTS.COM - OLE MISS Official Athletic Site - Academic Support

Tee deserves to be in a special category. He wanted to attend Notre Dame and play football. He signed his LOI and would still be at the University of Notre Dame if his academic limitations hadn't prevented him from staying. He does not belong in the same group as those who left the University of Notre Dame for other reasons or failed to honor their verbal commitment at the last minute (Lynch, Vanderdoes, Anzalone, Keil, etc.).

I will continue to root for Tee to make it.

Thank you for this sensible, adroit post. My inclination was to respond with anger.
 
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