'15 LA OT/DT Jerry Tillery (Notre Dame Early Enrollee)

[KPENN]

Welcome to recruiting.

I'll be your guide.

You should be neg repped for posting that pic.

 

[BeauBenken]

You should be neg repped for posting that pic.

I was making fun of it though.

 

[STLDomer]

All of this over an alleged Instagram?

 

[NDinL.A.]

All of this over an alleged Instagram?

I saw it and several other members saw it. It's real.

This is just another example of why he's not solid. Many members for some reason try and keep pushing that he's solid, but almost everything points away from that. Sounds crude but it's like they've never followed ND recruiting before. And I'm not talking about NDSean, who is completely mad; I'm talking about normal members who have it together and yet still think Tillery is 100% Irish. He's not, and I've been saying this for months. We probably lead, but that's all.

 

[johnnycando]

All of this over an alleged Instagram?

Hahahaha thanks for the vote of confidence.

Douche.

 

[TheTurningPoint]

Hopefully he shows up this weekend and reminds himself of what ND can offer him. The pic is from today, but hopefully its from a past visit? lol

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[Crazy Balki]

Welcome to recruiting.

I'll be your guide.

Very true. Can't really bring logic into this discussion. My bad...

 

[Crazy Balki]

I simply don't see how his parents can go from being pro-ND all the way, to pushing him to LSU. That is a disservice to him both athletically and academically. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that ND trumps LSU by a very large margin in terms of education, but it also trumps LSU in terms of offensive line success. Harry Hiestand is simply the best in the business when it comes to developing O-Linemen. So I don't get why his parents would be pushing him away from that. If they were big-time LSU fans from the start, then I'd understand, but they were pushing ND at first, so it doesn't.

 

[NDdomer2]

 

[stlnd01]

As others have said, if he shows up at II next weekend, we have every chance in the world to nip this LSU business in the bud. If he doesn't we'll know it's fair to move on.

 

[vmgsf]

With a great offensive line coach - Harry Hiestand - I feel that if Tillery shows the Irish staff too much LSU love and too little Notre Dame love, Tillery is gone. Kelly will make it easy for him by telling him no more LSU visits or baloney or your offer is not revoked but it is no longer commitable. With Hiestand's NFL track record, recruits are lined up to snap up Tillery's spot. I do not think this will play out to NSD.

 

[EuropeanDomer]

He will have Elmer, Nelson, Bars, Mcglinchey and Mcgovern ahead of him, i understand him. Sooo many talented players and just a few spots. Can't blame him. LSU is a better place to be if he wants to play early.

 

[rtrn2glory]

is LSU's O line situation less ideal than ours...they're usually pretty solid up front.

 

[TheTurningPoint]

I simply don't see how his parents can go from being pro-ND all the way, to pushing him to LSU. That is a disservice to him both athletically and academically. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that ND trumps LSU by a very large margin in terms of education, but it also trumps LSU in terms of offensive line success. Harry Hiestand is simply the best in the business when it comes to developing O-Linemen. So I don't get why his parents would be pushing him away from that. If they were big-time LSU fans from the start, then I'd understand, but they were pushing ND at first, so it doesn't.

I am not a rocket scientist, but I wouldnt say the LSU Oline is worse than Notre Dame. LSU is a force in the run game in the best conference in the NCAA, while Notre Dame struggle to run the ball vs Pitt.

There are several things why LSU is appealing to the family. The biggest is distance. Its probably a pain in the ass to travel from LA to South Bend, not to mention expensive. Some kids have the luxury of having a chance to play close to home and this is the case for Tillery.

And for his parents pushing LSU.....Please show me one reputable source that has stated that. I just googled searched multiple searches, and all searches came back to IrishEnvy or DomerDomain. So please dont critic someone unless you know the entire situation.

 

[Irish#1]

Even if he comes to II, this is going to drag out until NSD.

 

[Kaneyoufeelit]

And for his parents pushing LSU.....Please show me one reputable source that has stated that. I just googled searched multiple searches, and all searches came back to IrishEnvy or DomerDomain. So please dont critic someone unless you know the entire situation.

The one I remember is a poster on LSU 247 saying he talked to the parents at a track meet and the parents said they preferred LSU. This is probably bullshit.

But, Shea Dixon said that he has heard similar things. FWIW


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[TheTurningPoint]

The one I remember is a poster on LSU 247 saying he talked to the parents at a track meet and the parents said they preferred LSU. This is probably bullshit.

But, Shea Dixon said that he has heard similar things. FWIW


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No, I get that. But I was just saying those things are taken out of context even if they are true. Something like, "we are LSU till we die" said to LSU fan could be taken so many different ways.

Actions speak louder than words, and Tillery taking visits says a lot, as will him making the trip to ND this weekend.

I mean anyone stating his parents are doing him a disservice by not letting him go to ND is being ignorant. If he flips so be it, but its the best decision for him. I love ND, but ND isnt the best choice for everyone. Im not saying he isnt a ND kid, bc he is and he knows that he would be successful at ND. But to say LSU isnt a good choice thats just letting your emotion of being a fan take over.

This would fall under the category of pushing your child to a school.

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[enrico514]

A question for the recruiting experts...

I understand that ND will honour a scholorship offer should a commit get injured before getting on campus. If a kid commits early and then goes on to take visits... would ND honour the scholarship if this commit got injured?

 

[TheTurningPoint]

A question for the recruiting experts...

I understand that ND will honour a scholorship offer should a commit get injured before getting on campus. If a kid commits early and then goes on to take visits... would ND honour the scholarship if this commit got injured?

If he wants to come they will honor it.

 

[Bluto]

No, I get that. But I was just saying those things are taken out of context even if they are true. Something like, "we are LSU till we die" said to LSU fan could be taken so many different ways.

Actions speak louder than words, and Tillery taking visits says a lot, as will him making the trip to ND this weekend.

I mean anyone stating his parents are doing him a disservice by not letting him go to ND is being ignorant. If he flips so be it, but its the best decision for him. I love ND, but ND isnt the best choice for everyone. Im not saying he isnt a ND kid, bc he is and he knows that he would be successful at ND. But to say LSU isnt a good choice thats just letting your emotion of being a fan take over.

This would fall under the category of pushing your child to a school.

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I now it's been said before but man, Collins' mom is pretty hot! Back to Tillery.

 

[Crazy Balki]

I am not a rocket scientist, but I wouldnt say the LSU Oline is worse than Notre Dame. LSU is a force in the run game in the best conference in the NCAA, while Notre Dame struggle to run the ball vs Pitt.

There are several things why LSU is appealing to the family. The biggest is distance. Its probably a pain in the ass to travel from LA to South Bend, not to mention expensive. Some kids have the luxury of having a chance to play close to home and this is the case for Tillery.

And for his parents pushing LSU.....Please show me one reputable source that has stated that. I just googled searched multiple searches, and all searches came back to IrishEnvy or DomerDomain. So please dont critic someone unless you know the entire situation.

Distance shouldn't be that big of a factor. While they do live in Louisiana, Baton Rouge is a 4 hour drive. So it isn't that close. Their running success had more to do with their ability to spread a defense out. They had Mettenburger at QB, which forces the defense to play farther off the ball. ND had Rees, which means the defense is going to stack the box to defend the run and short passing game. Not to mention that LSU had better backs. Jeremy Hill is one of the nation's best RB's, compared to GAIII who would occasionally break off a big run, but would trip on his own shoelaces, Carlisle didn't see the field after Purdue, McDaniel was solid, but not substantially and Folston was a freshman.

I mean c'mon. It's Harry freakin' Hiestand. The offensive line guru. Am I missing something here?

-Get a high quality education
-Play for one of the best teams in college football, and coincidentally lifelong favorite team.
-Have the privilege to learn under one of the greatest offensive line coaches in the game.

What is there to think about? The choice is obvious.

 

[gkIrish]

Distance shouldn't be that big of a factor. While they do live in Louisiana, Baton Rouge is a 4 hour drive. So it isn't that close.

4 hours is easily driveable. They would have to fly to South Bend. Don't understand why you think that's not a factor.

 

[Crazy Balki]

No, I get that. But I was just saying those things are taken out of context even if they are true. Something like, "we are LSU till we die" said to LSU fan could be taken so many different ways.

Actions speak louder than words, and Tillery taking visits says a lot, as will him making the trip to ND this weekend.

I mean anyone stating his parents are doing him a disservice by not letting him go to ND is being ignorant. If he flips so be it, but its the best decision for him. I love ND, but ND isnt the best choice for everyone. Im not saying he isnt a ND kid, bc he is and he knows that he would be successful at ND. But to say LSU isnt a good choice thats just letting your emotion of being a fan take over.

This would fall under the category of pushing your child to a school.

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I'm not saying LSU is a bad school, you can go there and still get a good degree and a good job, but I'm being realistic here people. When you have an opportunity to attend the University of Notre Dame and you pass it up to attend LSU, that is the equivalent of passing up Harvard to attend Duke. Both are good schools, but Harvard is leagues above Duke. It's doing him a disservice because your son wants the opportunity to attend one of the most prestigious colleges in the country and you're nudging him to a school that is vastly inferior in terms of academics. It just doesn't sit well with me, and that is not ignorance, that's reality. Especially in today's world, the differences in degrees between ND and LSU are not even close. ND, in this economy, can pretty much guarantee you a good job, in the case that you don't make it to the NFL. If he was an LSU fan from the start and was almost guaranteed to land there, and was just checking ND out to see what it was about, then I'd see that happening. But that's not the case. Life long ND fan, loved the school, both athletic and academic. Why steer your son away from that?

 

[stlnd01]

I'm not saying LSU is a bad school, you can go there and still get a good degree and a good job, but I'm being realistic here people. When you have an opportunity to attend the University of Notre Dame and you pass it up to attend LSU, that is the equivalent of passing up Harvard to attend Duke. Both are good schools, but Harvard is leagues above Duke.

FWIW, while you certainly can get a good education at LSU, the difference between LSU and Notre Dame is much greater than the difference between Duke and Harvard (which are both among the ten best universities in the nation). Though that's just strengthening your point.
That said, distance is an obvious and reasonable factor, and while lots of kids travel long distances to attend Notre Dame (I went 900 miles myself), plenty others stay closer to home. No secret that this often hurts us in recruiting.
We'll see. Tillery seems like a smart kid with a good head on his shoulders. Hopefully he decides to leave the nest and challenge himself at Notre Dame. But if he decides to stay close to home it's hard to hold a grudge. And this really doesn't seem like a Landon Collins/Malik McDowell situation. More like one where mom and dad might like their son to be in driving distance is all.

 

[irishog77]

Distance shouldn't be that big of a factor. While they do live in Louisiana, Baton Rouge is a 4 hour drive. So it isn't that close. Their running success had more to do with their ability to spread a defense out. They had Mettenburger at QB, which forces the defense to play farther off the ball. ND had Rees, which means the defense is going to stack the box to defend the run and short passing game. Not to mention that LSU had better backs. Jeremy Hill is one of the nation's best RB's, compared to GAIII who would occasionally break off a big run, but would trip on his own shoelaces, Carlisle didn't see the field after Purdue, McDaniel was solid, but not substantially and Folston was a freshman.

I mean c'mon. It's Harry freakin' Hiestand. The offensive line guru. Am I missing something here?

-Get a high quality education
-Play for one of the best teams in college football, and coincidentally lifelong favorite team.
-Have the privilege to learn under one of the greatest offensive line coaches in the game.

What is there to think about? The choice is obvious.

Yes

 

[NDinL.A.]

but I'm being realistic here people.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

 

[Crazy Balki]

FWIW, while you certainly can get a good education at LSU, the difference between LSU and Notre Dame is much greater than the difference between Duke and Harvard (which are both among the ten best universities in the nation). Though that's just strengthening your point.
That said, distance is an obvious and reasonable factor, and while lots of kids travel long distances to attend Notre Dame (I went 900 miles myself), plenty others stay closer to home. No secret that this often hurts us in recruiting.
We'll see. Tillery seems like a smart kid with a good head on his shoulders. Hopefully he decides to leave the nest and challenge himself at Notre Dame. But if he decides to stay close to home it's hard to hold a grudge. And this really doesn't seem like a Landon Collins/Malik McDowell situation. More like one where mom and dad might like their son to be in driving distance is all.

Distance is a factor, but it's kind of selfish on the parents' part to push your kid to a vastly inferior university (in terms of academics) just so you'll be in driving distance. And even so, Shreveport isn't even that close. I also just don't know where this pro-LSU support from his parents came from. I remember when this thread started that he and his parents were huge ND fans and jumped at the idea of attending ND. What happened to that?

 

[koonja]

Distance is a factor, but it's kind of selfish on the parents' part to push your kid to a vastly inferior university (in terms of academics) just so you'll be in driving distance. And even so, Shreveport isn't even that close. I also just don't know where this pro-LSU support from his parents came from. I remember when this thread started that he and his parents were huge ND fans and jumped at the idea of attending ND. What happened to that?

They're probably fans of both. Probably have rooted for LSU since they live there, but I'm sure they've seen their fair share of ND games since their son grew up watching ND.

If you really sat down with them, I'd guess they like both, and will support Jerry either way. I doubt they're pushing him either way.

 

[Crazy Balki]

Yes

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[Crazy Balki]

They're probably fans of both. Probably have rooted for LSU since they live there, but I'm sure they've seen their fair share of ND games since their son grew up watching ND.

If you really sat down with them, I'd guess they like both, and will support Jerry either way. I doubt they're pushing him either way.

Then I don't see the issue? Why is everyone freaking out about him visiting LSU? It's not like this is the first time Les Miles has been sniffing around and it sure as Hell won't be the last. He's going to II and making the trip for 2 games. What more do you want? I think the Barnett situation has everyone skeptical about Tillery, and that's it.