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Bama is going to more of a spread attack with Kiffin.
'15 CA QB Travis Waller (Oregon Verbal)
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Bama is going to more of a spread attack with Kiffin.
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Haha. No they are not. I've seen numerous reports saying the O won't change and that Coach Saban just wants to be more diverse.
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I've always wondered why Alabama doesn't have a mobile QB, since Saban is a little gun shy about throwing it.
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Is it a prerequisite for a Bama QB to be a Wasp?
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Bama has missed on several QBs that aren't Wasp. But then again, they have missed on several QBs that were Wasps as well. For all of Saban's recruiting success, QB has not been one of them.
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Who was the last Black QB Bama had that played over a longish peroid of time? Not to generalise here but I would imagine it would be a tough situation for any kid to play in.
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Andrew Zow probably.
Don't think it is a tough situation to play in. Most Bama fans don't really care as long as they get the job done. Why we haven't had success with black QBs is puzzling.
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It's probably because the more moblie they are the least amount of control Saban might have over him.
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This is the first I've heard anyone say this. I even asked some posters on TideFans like a week ago and they said the O shouldn't change much.
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Agree. Most of what came out of spring practice reports was that Wonder Boy simplified the offense and works more on player matchup advantages. I don't think we will see very much different in what he has ran in the past.
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Saban is Catholic!
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Does Urban only offer if someone visits?
Sounds like a bullshit lie so that Urban can buy as much time as possible to see what their top QB prospect does.
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It's been 100% bullshit with Urban (like always) for awhile regarding Waller.
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I'm not saying it's a big deal and I don't fault Urban for doing it, but I hope Waller sees it for how it really is.
ND made him a priority immediately after losing Barnett. I think it's fair to say Kelly wants Waller more than Urban does.
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That's fair, but per 247, Waller was ND's 6th offer at QB (Barnett, Rosen, Jaru Campbell, Beneviti, Murray), and they haven't been recruiting QBs until last month.
OSU has 11 offers out to QBs and Waller still hasn't been offered.
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We're not telling Waller he's out #1 target when it's clear he's not. They're lying to Waller to keep him on the hook as long as possible. Not sure that's even remotely close to the same scenario.
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Well we kind of do, the recruits do interviews where they are asked what each staff is telling them. Waller has been quoted saying that Urban says he is their #1 QB. Yet they haven't offered, they have offered quite a few others, and even accepted a commitment from one of them. From what Waller has said about his conversations with BK. We are in need of a QB since Barnett decommited. We've been following him for awhile and we think he fits out system really well. Is there other stuff behind the scenes, of course. But if I look at those two scenarios with the information we have given to us by Mr. Waller. One staff is upfront and the other is lying through their teeth and it's not even close. If what your saying is overall you think that both staffs conduct themselves in the same manner then I'll completely disagree as well and there is very little that you could point to that would change that opinion.
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I'm saying we engage in the same realm the same sort of practice we just do it with more respect at times... But think of Reilly from Florida, how many times did he visit, lured to try out for an offer, slow played until people higher on the board made a decision only to wind up getting 0. We may not have said he's our #1 prospect but our "interest" lured him to ND, engaged in private workouts with at least a sliver of belief he'd get an offer, only to leave thinking the offer would come later, and we eventually don't act and he commits elsewhere
If the "lie" is your big concern then sure I guess you have a point. But the condition to visit may be truly to see if he's interested first before they shut down recruiting at that spot.
If the conduct/tactic is the concern, then we are no different in my opinion. There's a priority for sure. And is to the benefit of the coaches not to disclose that priority with detail. If everyone knew they were option d-h then they prob wouldn't have much interest going forward
If the "lie" is your big concern then sure I guess you have a point. But the condition to visit may be truly to see if he's interested first before they shut down recruiting at that spot.
If the conduct/tactic is the concern, then we are no different in my opinion. There's a priority for sure. And is to the benefit of the coaches not to disclose that priority with detail. If everyone knew they were option d-h then they prob wouldn't have much interest going forward
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What? The lie is the only thing that we're talking about. Getting kids to campus prior to offering is completely normal and is a good practice. That has nothing to do with how this conversation started. It's telling a recruit one thing, getting him to believe it, and doing something else. Especially when you the coach (in this case Urban) knows it's not true. Lastly, the conduct and tactic is what's wrong. One of the tactics that Urban is using to keep this kid interested in his program is by lying to him. This is a pretty simple concept.
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How the fuck is it even remotely close to the same thing?
On one hand, you have a coach telling a prospect who is CLEARLY NOT #1 ON THEIR BOARD BECAUSE THEY'VE ALREADY OFFERED NUMEROUS OTHER PLAYERS AT HIS POSITION that he's their "top target." Urban did the same thing with Malik Zaire, but Zaire was smart enough to go "uhhh... you just told me I'm the #1 guy and then turned around and offered 6 other QBs?" Some people get that it's all bullshit and it's a major turnoff for Urban, others don't and lap up the attention. We don't know which Waller is yet.
On the other hand, we told Waller that he'd been on the radar for awhile but we were honoring the commitment of Blake Barnett and did not offer any other QBs. He received an offer IMMEDIATELY after we had a spot open up.
Compare and contrast those two situations and tell me ANY similarities.
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Your posts have been very negative since Barnett decommitted. Get over it.