'15 IN ILB/OLB Asmar Bilal (Notre Dame Signed NLI)

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Have to respect a kid who doesn't commit when the pressure is on, but I wish Bilal would pop because I really don't want to have him lose a spot in this class.
 

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Have to respect a kid who doesn't commit when the pressure is on, but I wish Bilal would pop because I really don't want to have him lose a spot in this class.

Agreed, I don't think Kelly was pressuring him because that was his tactic to get a commitment. I took it as "Hey we really want you on this team but we have a lot of guys with interest that we like as well. I'd accept your commitment now and stop recruiting them but if they decide to jump on board we're going to have to stop recruiting you."
 

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As long as they are in good academic standing, that's what I remember as well.

Correct. As long as the player leaves in good standing academically--to another school or the NFL--it doesn't count against GSR.

I believe that's true, at least for one of the rates. Students who leave early in good academic standing are non-counters. There's some differences between the two that I'm sure Whiskey knows off the top of his head.

GSR is the only one that matters. APR is a joke.

Also, this doesn't really yet reflect Kelly recruits... who haven't reached the end of their eligibility term to be counted. It's more a reflection of Duval Kamara, etc. who didn't get it done in the classroom.

Lastly, Jordan Prestwood, Tee Shpehard (he counts, right?), and the like will probably drop the average in coming years.

We know Prestwood transferred due to grades. Lynch reportedly had a ~3.0 average when he left, so I doubt we took a hit for him. Neal and Ferguson might have been academically ineligible (which would explain the sudden drop in AA GSR if the hit occurs upon transfer instead of when their athletic eligibility expires). I don't recall reading anything about Spencer Boyd's grades (USF transfer from the 2009 class) or GAIII struggling academically, but they're both possibilities as well. It's based on a rolling 6-year window, but I can't think of anyone else who might be responsible.

I'd hope Shepard doesn't count, because he never even got past the clearing house.
 
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I like Bilal.

That being said, I'd hate for the staff to not be able to take Baker and/or Masina. Obviously assuming either wanted in.
 

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Correct. As long as the player leaves in good standing academically--to another school or the NFL--it doesn't count against GSR.



GSR is the only one that matters. APR is a joke.



We know Prestwood transferred due to grades. Lynch reportedly had a ~3.0 average when he left, so I doubt we took a hit for him. Neal and Ferguson might have been academically ineligible (which would explain the sudden drop in AA GSR if the hit occurs upon transfer instead of when their athletic eligibility expires). I don't recall reading anything about Spencer Boyd's grades (USF transfer from the 2009 class) or GAIII struggling academically, but they're both possibilities as well. It's based on a rolling 6-year window, but I can't think of anyone else who might be responsible.

I'd hope Shepard doesn't count, because he never even got past the clearing house.


Maybe Kinlaw might be added to that list soon?
 

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Mom really loved the trip per Wiltfong

She especially loved that ND wasn't much of a "party setting." Where u at NDSean44? :rotflmao:
 
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I meant between the two GSR numbers. I know there is a "federal" one and I can't remember the other.

My bad. IIRC, the FGR predates the GSR, and it doesn't distinguish between transfers while academically eligible and legitimate drop-outs. Thus, the new and improved GSR.
 

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Mom really loved the trip per Wiltfong

She especially loved that ND wasn't much of a "party setting." Where u at NDSean44? :rotflmao:

Somebody should a told Rees that BEFORE he tried running from the cops......
 

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I really like this kid, and think he is going to be huge at ND if we can get him.
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Michigan&src=hash">#Michigan</a> set to host 4* LB and major target Asmar Bilal ; he will arrive in Ann Arbor at noon tomorrow (VIP): <a href="http://t.co/JOa1lmjHqw">http://t.co/JOa1lmjHqw</a></p>— Steve Lorenz (@TremendousUM) <a href="https://twitter.com/TremendousUM/statuses/480174496729403395">June 21, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Michigan&src=hash">#Michigan</a> set to host 4* LB and major target Asmar Bilal ; he will arrive in Ann Arbor at noon tomorrow (VIP): <a href="http://t.co/JOa1lmjHqw">http://t.co/JOa1lmjHqw</a></p>— Steve Lorenz (@TremendousUM) <a href="https://twitter.com/TremendousUM/statuses/480174496729403395">June 21, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Gonna be curious to see how everything plays out at LB. Really want Bilal, then you have Hilliard and Coney as possibilities as well, and still waiting on a visit from Baker. Hope we remain the leader for Bilal after today's visit, and hope we get the star studded core of LB's we need from the class.
 

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Hoke gonna turn up the heat on this visit guaranteed. I still think we win out though. This visit isn't any deviation from exactly what he said he was going to do with his final visits.
 

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Hoke gonna turn up the heat on this visit guaranteed. I still think we win out though. This visit isn't any deviation from exactly what he said he was going to do with his final visits.

I agree Hoke is gonna be all over him. I am a little anxious about this one for some reason, but I agree that we will win this one in the end.
 
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I don't know, from what I have seen, a recruiting visit at UM and PSU for that matter can be the crucible. Seventeen year-olds can feel the pressure, and not see the difference between the pitch, and a coach that truly cares about them. (See SEC success, generally.)
 

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I don't know, from what I have seen, a recruiting visit at UM and PSU for that matter can be the crucible. Seventeen year-olds can feel the pressure, and not see the difference between the pitch, and a coach that truly cares about them. (See SEC success, generally.)

Exactly why I am a little anxious.
 

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I agree Hoke is gonna be all over him. I am a little anxious about this one for some reason, but I agree that we will win this one in the end.

For all of Hoke's flaws (and there are many) he and Mattison are great pressure recruiters. I never, ever like those two having last shot... although typically it's when they've beaten us to the punch that it's an issue. Per the people who get paid to do this, they've always said it's a very close race with Michigan.
 

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For all of Hoke's flaws (and there are many) he and Mattison are great pressure recruiters. I never, ever like those two having last shot... although typically it's when they've beaten us to the punch that it's an issue. Per the people who get paid to do this, they've always said it's a very close race with Michigan.

Wiltfong has been pretty adamant that it's closer than most think or want to admit (mainly Irish fans).
 

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For all of Hoke's flaws (and there are many) he and Mattison are great pressure recruiters. I never, ever like those two having last shot... although typically it's when they've beaten us to the punch that it's an issue. Per the people who get paid to do this, they've always said it's a very close race with Michigan.

They are very good at convincing kids to get on board, they just have struggled securing them through signing day. I don't want this one to go that route though. I wanna lock Bilal up before August.

I asked in another thread, but I think we got crossed up, do you think we will be at 16 commits before Rice? I do, but I really couldn't say who. What are your thoughts?
 

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We gotta stop talking like this. I am getting horrible vibes and diabetes from giving Michigan credit.
 

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We gotta stop talking like this. I am getting horrible vibes and diabetes from giving Michigan credit.

I have the cure.

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That should do the trick if not, there's plenty more out there to help you.
 

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In a worst case scenario, apply this:

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Update from 247:

He visited yesterday and is now "juggling" Michigan and ND. He said he liked the campus and academic presentation, he said he could see himself there and really enjoyed the weight-lifting coach and obviously mattison and Hoke. He also said his mother really enjoyed it as well.

It's neck and neck right now I still believe ND wins this one but could go either way now
 
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