'15 CA QB Blake Barnett (Arizona State Transfer)

[Chasey]

All hope is not lost Blake Barnett is a good quarterback but the roster is loaded and he did not think he could compete for the starting spot. I wish him all the best.

 

[dang227]

'15 CA QB Blake Barnett

'15 CA QB Blake Barnett

It's actually not that stupid.

Thanks Echoes. I for one have posted much stupider things than that on here after losses. I said nothing about any of our rankings. I just sometimes wish we had that type of recruiter at head coach or on staff.


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[stlnd01]

he did not think he could compete for the starting spot.

That seems unlikely.

 

[CanadalovesND]

Well, I gotta say, this sucks. But, after the last 24 hours of news and updates, I kind of expected it, as probably 95% of us did.

Not gonna say much more than that... Ya, Hopkins is a tool and a fucknut, but in the end, this is Blake's decision, and for his sake, I sure hope he's successful as fuck at Oregon and a top draft pick otherwise the decision to de-commit from ND is going to look pretty bad. But hey, we'll see 20 years down the road if Blake is still truly happy and has no regrets about this decision.

As they say, onto the next one! Travis Waller anybody?

 

[tussin]

You don't have to necessarily "descend" in those ways for more aggressive recruiting. You can take the arrogant "we're better than those guys" approach.

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Don't we do this? If not, we should. It's Notre effing Dame, who the fuck would want to get a shitty degree from Oregon when you can get a degree from an elite school in both the football world and in life. It's fundamentally driven by academics, but the coaches should start playing up the ability to say, "I went to Notre Dame," in real life. It's instant respect.


Regarding Blake specifically, a few thoughts:

1. 80% of me is thinking who cares. This is recruiting for a silly game and I refuse to get worked up about some fickle high school kid. Wake me up in February when I can actually look at the class at face value. All of this "Verbal" crap is nonsense. It means nothing until you sign the paper. NOBODY is committed.

2. Let's stop recruiting California.

3. I don't know if there is some unwritten ND rule against negative recruiting, but we should really consider starting to do it. IMO, there is nothing wrong with negative recruiting when everything you say is true. Put it all on the table and expose other programs and schools for what they actually are both on and off the field.

 

[Bluto]

It's actually not that stupid.

You're right. The President thread is littered with some pretty stupid stuff. This is top 5 stupid. Suppose it depends on whether your a fan of Notre Dame the brand or Notre Dame the idea.

 

[Irish#1]

I submitted a request to cancel last night and my reasoning was I couldn't justify paying money to watch an "expert" gloat about steering a high school kid to his favorite team. Got an email about 15 minutes ago saying my request was fulfilled and that they hope to see me back as a subscriber soon, without addressing anything else I said.

You got an automated reply. To have any effect, you need to get in touch with the so called "editor in chief".

 

[johnnycando]

I submitted a request to cancel last night and my reasoning was I couldn't justify paying money to watch an "expert" gloat about steering a high school kid to his favorite team. Got an email about 15 minutes ago saying my request was fulfilled and that they hope to see me back as a subscriber soon, without addressing anything else I said.

They don't care about your money.

They would only care about all of our money.

 

[Fbolt]

Until ND can take the talent they HAVE and string along 10+ win seasons on a consistent basis-this is going to happen.

Kelly seems to have acquired some talent over the past few years and the O looks like it'll turn the corner. I certainly hope the "The Stache" can rejuvenate the D and bring them up a level. If so, these concerns fall by the wayside. If not, this will continue to be an issue.

Worrying about what a HS player will do is a losing proposition. Let them choose. Let the Staff do what they can. Move forward. Rational thought processes lead to a rational outlook on recruiting.

Win and they will come.

 

[clashmore_mike]

You got an automated reply. To have any effect, you need to get in touch with the so called "editor in chief".

I got the automated reply last night right after I submitted it. Tonight's was from someone in the billing department (actual person), but you're correct I should try to find someone higher up the ladder.

 

[Grahambo]

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[Irish#1]

Don't we do this? If not, we should. It's Notre effing Dame, who the fuck would want to get a shitty degree from Oregon when you can get a degree from an elite school in both the football world and in life. It's fundamentally driven by academics, but the coaches should start playing up the ability to say, "I went to Notre Dame," in real life. It's instant respect.


Regarding Blake specifically, a few thoughts:

1. 80% of me is thinking who cares. This is recruiting for a silly game and I refuse to get worked up about some fickle high school kid. Wake me up in February when I can actually look at the class at face value. All of this "Verbal" crap is nonsense. It means nothing until you sign the paper. NOBODY is committed.

2. Let's stop recruiting California.

3. I don't know if there is some unwritten ND rule against negative recruiting, but we should really consider starting to do it. IMO, there is nothing wrong with negative recruiting when everything you say is true. Put it all on the table and expose other programs and schools for what they actually are both on and off the field.

Neg recruiting goes on all the time. If you're not used to it, you need to be because there's no end in site.

 

[stlnd01]

Suppose it depends on whether your a fan of Notre Dame the brand or Notre Dame the idea.[/QUOTE]

Huh? What's the difference between those two things?

 

[Irishman77]

Handing out reps and laughing big time. Good stuff fellas.

Glad this is over with 8 months to go

II will be world class! Staff will be out and on a mission to make it rain.

As long as Malik stays put we are in amazing shape at qb. If Barnett would have stuck we lose one of Blake or Malik...and Malik is wayyyyyy ahead of Blake right now.

16 class has 2-3 elite qbs that love ND and the timing would be perfect given
14- golson
15- Malik
16- Malik
17 - Malik
18 - 16 guy with plenty of time to learn and be ready

Don't mean any negativity on Deshone, we just don't know what we got yet..

I am ecstatic about our qb situation...think of what Kelly did with Rees !

Would you rather convince a hs jr or have this warrior?
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SFZuAn8Xais

 

[anarin]

I'll personally be more worried if we don't land some defensive line talent, losing this kid takes a backseat to that IMO

In other words, eh... next?

 

[NDTampa]

They don't care about your money.

They would only care about all of our money.

If everyone that reads this board that was a 247 member cancelled their membership, it would cause a stir.

I would guess the majority of ND fans that are members of B&G are also reading this board. So if everyone cancelled their membership, They would look at Loy like "What the hell are you doing?"

Then Loy and Hopkins wouldn't be able to tickle each others balls, Loy would have to throw Hopkins under the bus.

Just My opinion.

 

[CanadalovesND]

Until ND can take the talent they HAVE and string along 10+ win seasons on a consistent basis-this is going to happen.

Kelly seems to have acquired some talent over the past few years and the O looks like it'll turn the corner. I certainly hope the "The Stache" can rejuvenate the D and bring them up a level. If so, these concerns fall by the wayside. If not, this will continue to be an issue.

Worrying about what a HS player will do is a losing proposition. Let them choose. Let the Staff do what they can. Move forward. Rational thought processes lead to a rational outlook on recruiting.

Win and they will come.

Even Alabama, the best program in college football in terms of wins, over the past... 5 years has it's fair share of de-commitments too. Both talented and highly ranked players.

 

[Irish#1]

I got the automated reply last night right after I submitted it. Tonight's was from someone in the billing department (actual person), but you're correct I should try to find someone higher up the ladder.

Yeah, someone in billing making $10 an hour doesn't give a crap.

 

[Ironman8]

I submitted a request to cancel last night and my reasoning was I couldn't justify paying money to watch an "expert" gloat about steering a high school kid to his favorite team. Got an email about 15 minutes ago saying my request was fulfilled and that they hope to see me back as a subscriber soon, without addressing anything else I said.

I requested to cancel my subscription as well. The level of professionalism and 'journalism' is atrocious. I am not giving them another dime.

 

[AdmiralBackhand]

Did we offer this guy?

 

[clashmore_mike]

Yeah, someone in billing making $10 an hour doesn't give a crap.

Ok, please accept my most sincere apology.

 

[johnnycando]

And so it begins...

And so it begins...

Mass cancellation of 247 services.

That would be a great loss of revenue.

 

[wizards8507]

Did we offer this guy?

Can't tell if serious.

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[Who'saWildManNow]

Ahhhh the annual mind bending decommitment from Notre Dame. I feel sorry for the coaches in all honesty. It must get old hanging their futures on the decision making skills of kids..

What's even worse about this particular one is the level of commitment not only Blake but his parents showed.

Let this be the lesson that inches you back from the recruiting trail. There are no sure things. Take solace in our current roster, it's come a long way.

 

[Fbolt]

start a thread on canceling 247.

homerism and steering kids.

 

[Grahambo]

So.....how about 'dem Rice Owls?!

 

[IrishLax]

start a thread on canceling 247.

homerism and steering kids.

About to.

 

[IrishSteelhead]

Anybody wanna go grab a beer and talk about the time Blake Barnett was committed to ND?

 

[ab2cmiller]

Anybody wanna go grab a beer and talk about the time Blake Barnett was committed to ND?

Ahh yes ... I remember it like it was yesterday.

 

[Irishman77]

Ahhhh the annual mind bending decommitment from Notre Dame. I feel sorry for the coaches in all honesty. It must get old hanging their futures on the decision making skills of kids..

What's even worse about this particular one is the level of commitment not only Blake but his parents showed.

Let this be the lesson that inches you back from the recruiting trail. There are no sure things. Take solace in our current roster, it's come a long way.

I learned my lesson with Vanderdoes! I needed a good slap in the face and a kick to the sac on that one and since become pretty apathetic. This kid is very good but I love Malik!