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Bogtrotter07

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I would like to start a thread requesting prayers for each of us. Tonight as you may well know by now, TP was threatened. Some posters began throwing out innuendos as to who may have done it. I feel it is fairly unimaginative that someone would suggest a given poster who didn't agree with TP, but what do I know. Numerous posters have since dishonored themselves by sending inappropriate PM's to several of these members. I saw it start in the CYA thread. As unimaginative as it is making tired guesses about who it was, when it may not be a member, it is even worse throwing out innuendo to further charge the air.

I would like people to post here pledging in brotherhood to come together and support not throwing out innuendo, or false accusations, and waiting to let authorities complete their investigation. Please support TP, Jason, IE and your brothers, and pledge to stand down.

Thanks from the bottom of my heart!

Bogs
 

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Pham was kind enough to let me post this in TP's thread, but I think it is appropriate to repost it here as well.

I want to make it very clear that I would never make threats of real-life physical violence against another poster, and certainly not towards their family. I am an adult, and frequently post from my work cpu. I would not only never dream of such actions from a moral standpoint, but also from the fact that I could lose my job doing something like that.

My IP address is available for all mods and anyone else that is involved in finding out the identity of this scum. The same can be said for the other posters that have been contacted about this as well. Disagreeing with TP in internet squabbles should not make myself, HCTI, Bogs or anyone else automatic entries in the witch hunt. Threatening pm's, accusations, etc make you no better than the terrible person that did this to TP.

So I humbly ask the board to please let the process play out and to please refrain from involving themselves in type of McCarthyism that targets certain posters on the board. The reality is that the person who did this, may not even be an IE member at all, none the less a regular poster. So again, please let the process evolve and not try anyone in the court of public opinion.

Thank you, in advance, for your consideration.
 

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Pham was kind enough to let me post this in TP's thread, but I think it is appropriate to repost it here as well.

I never even began to think you might be the perpetrator Wooly. I hope you are not getting any misguided accusations about this.

This is all extremely tragic stuff.
 

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Are we grown ups? Is this real life?

I don't know what is more absurd, that some idiot threatened TP (or anyone else) about anything related to college football, or that idiots would lazily point fingers at another poster because they witnessed them have an internet argument about college freaking football. Especially when the apparent target of the finger pointing (I presume, based on this thread because I haven't read through the other one) has acquitted himself at all times as decent, normal person with a functioning human brain, even if he can be disagreeable at times (a personality trait with which I can sympathize).

Seriously, this whole thing is embarrassing and I wish we could just stop talking about it and let it go away. Whoever was dumb enough to email threats to someone is necessarily dumb enough to get caught, too. So us talking about does no good, it just draws the wrong kind of attention to ourselves.
 
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I whole heartedly agree. I did state in the CYA IE thread that whoever did that to TP would not be posting anymore. It was by no means meant to be ostracizing any certain individuals. I was just upset that someone would do this.
 

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I whole heartedly agree. I did state in the CYA IE thread that whoever did that to TP would not be posting anymore. It was by no means meant to be ostracizing any certain individuals. I was just upset that someone would do this.

We're all pizzed off about that, brah....

I may not see eye to eye with the guy, but what has happened to TP and his family is just douchy at best.
 

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I just wonder what is going through an individuals head to do something like that to a guy who means no harm and provides great info. Too bad this world is full of sickos.
 

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Who even cares what kind of info he provides? How is that relevant? If he provides good info he doesn't deserve to be threatened by someone he doesn't know, but if it were horrible info would it make the threats more understandable?

The point is not that TP is super great and therefore doesn't deserve to get terrorized, its that NOBODY should be terrorized, regardless of the quality of their contributions on a message board.
 

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Are we grown ups? Is this real life?

I don't know what is more absurd, that some idiot threatened TP (or anyone else) about anything related to college football, or that idiots would lazily point fingers at another poster because they witnessed them have an internet argument about college freaking football. Especially when the apparent target of the finger pointing (I presume, based on this thread because I haven't read through the other one) has acquitted himself at all times as decent, normal person with a functioning human brain, even if he can be disagreeable at times (a personality trait with which I can sympathize).

Seriously, this whole thing is embarrassing and I wish we could just stop talking about it and let it go away. Whoever was dumb enough to email threats to someone is necessarily dumb enough to get caught, too. So us talking about does no good, it just draws the wrong kind of attention to ourselves.

Who even cares what kind of info he provides? How is that relevant? If he provides good info he doesn't deserve to be threatened by someone he doesn't know, but if it were horrible info would it make the threats more understandable?

The point is not that TP is super great and therefore doesn't deserve to get terrorized, its that NOBODY should be terrorized, regardless of the quality of their contributions on a message board.

I concur.
 

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TP is awesome imo, love all the work he puts in digging up stuff for recruiting and whatnot. Just a shame, no one should have this happen to them. I haven't seen the other thread yet, but I hope he comes back if he's truly gone.
 

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Always been a positive guy, so here goes. The night is always darkest before the dawn (The Dark Knight). Hang tough IE brethren. We will make it through this and the bastards responsible for the **** that happened to TP will be help accountable. Again, hang tough guys.
 
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Interesting how this has become such a positive thread. Our faith in brothers, restored!
 

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I'm no priest or preacher, and I am hardly an IE insider, as my meager post count attests. I don't really understand what words by any poster would make another poster threaten them, least of all (1) when we, presumably share a love of something that is important to us (ND); and (2) when we are talking about something essentially less important than our faith, our families, our country, our livelihoods, and our freedom. As I say, I am hardly an insider, so maybe there are histories that fuel dislikes into hatreds but, particularly in this context, it is sad and truly foolish.

I have strong views on many subjects. I am sure that I would disagree with some here about many things that I consider very important. I try to disagree in ways that are civil and, if possible, even collegial. I don't think our disagreements, as such, would go to the core of those who I disagree with, though I admit that, in the big bad world, there are people who mean us harm and it is hard to talk to.

I have control, ultimately, only over my own heart and mind. And that means using care as to what take in and that I let out. The only thing that helps me to avoid becoming angry enough to be the @sshole I know lurks inside me is to (a) recognize that most of the people I "meet," like me, have personal battles and "sufferings," and so are worthy of allowances, at least for a while, and a concession that maybe the other guy just misunderstands or is having a bad day; and (b) pray (I mean actually pray to God) for the wisdom to say the right thing, with restraint in my reaction to what I perceive as injustice or unfairness or deceit or invincible ignorance.

I do believe that opening our own hearts to God's guidance does deflect a lot of the anger that might flow into a relationship; or at least makes one less likely to inflame situations. That's my prayer for myself and this page, which I think is run by guys who really have a solid moral compass and want this to serve as a positive forum for "friends or brothers in Notre Dame" to share their passion.

There is a reason why we all love Notre Dame, and there is a reason Notre Dame is different than other places. Those of us who didn't go there may know that better than those of you who do or did. I think it goes to the values that we believe are at the root of the University and even our love for the place. Those values should be at the foundation of our interactions, particularly when we are here. I don't mean to be corny or dramatic, but I just mean that the thing most of us love about ND should have a transference to our lives, including our dealings with each other here.
 
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Terrible situation. We are all here because of our love of ND Football. Let's keep that in mind as we support our team and each other. I hope TP comes back and we can get back to the mission of this site. Go Irish!
 
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Bogtrotter07

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I'm no priest or preacher, and I am hardly an IE insider, as my meager post count attests. I don't really understand what words by any poster would make another poster threaten them, least of all (1) when we, presumably share a love of something that is important to us (ND); and (2) when we are talking about something essentially less important than our faith, our families, our country, our livelihoods, and our freedom. As I say, I am hardly an insider, so maybe there are histories that fuel dislikes into hatreds but, particularly in this context, it is sad and truly foolish.

I have strong views on many subjects. I am sure that I would disagree with some here about many things that I consider very important. I try to disagree in ways that are civil and, if possible, even collegial. I don't think our disagreements, as such, would go to the core of those who I disagree with, though I admit that, in the big bad world, there are people who mean us harm and it is hard to talk to.

I have control, ultimately, only over my own heart and mind. And that means using care as to what take in and that I let out. The only thing that helps me to avoid becoming angry enough to be the @sshole I know lurks inside me is to (a) recognize that most of the people I "meet," like me, have personal battles and "sufferings," and so are worthy of allowances, at least for a while, and a concession that maybe the other guy just misunderstands or is having a bad day; and (b) pray (I mean actually pray to God) for the wisdom to say the right thing, with restraint in my reaction to what I perceive as injustice or unfairness or deceit or invincible ignorance.

I do believe that opening our own hearts to God's guidance does deflect a lot of the anger that might flow into a relationship; or at least makes one less likely to inflame situations. That's my prayer for myself and this page, which I think is run by guys who really have a solid moral compass and want this to serve as a positive forum for "friends or brothers in Notre Dame" to share their passion.

There is a reason why we all love Notre Dame, and there is a reason Notre Dame is different than other places. Those of us who didn't go there may know that better than those of you who do or did. I think it goes to the values that we believe are at the root of the University and even our love for the place. Those values should be at the foundation of our interactions, particularly when we are here. I don't mean to be corny or dramatic, but I just mean that the thing most of us love about ND should have a transference to our lives, including our dealings with each other here.

What a brilliant blueprint for empathy, and argument for altruism. No one could have said it any better.

The point is TP is our brother, we need to support him. But Wooly, HCTI and others that got negative messages sent to them our are brothers, too. Granted, it was unacceptable that anyone who ever visited this site should treat anyone this way, but the same is true for anyone who was lined up yesterday as a "usual suspect." Peace and love to all you brothers!

Terrible situation. We are all here because of our love of ND Football. Let's keep that in mind as we support our team and each other. I hope TP comes back and we can get back to the mission of this site. Go Irish!

I second that!
 
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