'13 IL RB Ty Isaac (Michigan Transfer)

[koonja]

We could use an over sized power back. Our 3 are all very well built and compact, but don't have goal line size.

 

[Emcee77]

I'm open to correction on this, but my understanding is that releases are rarely granted without restriction. Kiel, for instance, was restricted from transferring to any school on a future schedule of ours.

That's definitely my understanding, although I've never fully understood how it works, "mechanically," as lawyers say.

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

Michigan's depth chart may be inviting but there is a high possibility that if he goes there he will experience another coaching change - which may be a factor underlying his decision to leave USC.

 

[me9rob]

I'm open to correction on this, but my understanding is that releases are rarely granted without restriction. Kiel, for instance, was restricted from transferring to any school on a future schedule of ours.

USC, under Haden, hasn't usually restricted transfers. They feel it does more harm than good and that it's best not to alienate future recruits. Kiffin agreed with this and it showed in his recruiting when he would allow and even encourage commits to take visits. I don't know how Sark feels about this, but I'm pretty sure Haden won't restrict Isaac's transfer, even if it is to ND (he has a ton of respect for Notre Dame).

 

[jimmymac]

He's an outlier. No idea how he got cleared for that. Maybe he had dirt on Kiffin?

Wouldn't you be pissed if Kelly let Folston transfer to USC?

I think he did have dirt on Kiffin. I've heard a few times him talk about how USC guys NEVER went to class.

 

[Chi_IRISH]

Probably depends how bad he wants to play RB. He'll be in line there, but could walk in and start at a school like Northern Ill. If he was up for LB, though...
As for us, it seems unlikely, right? But he'd slot in nicely on the 2015 depth chart at either position. Usually transfers w/in a conference or to a future opponent get blocked, but the landscape's changing so fast lately it's hard to make predictions. Has Sark had any transfers out yet to set a precedent?

I have never posted this before, but I heard from a good source that NIU should never have been ruled out during his recruiting. My initial response was no way. However, the source cited out his father played at NIU, and he wanted him close to home. Just FWIW.

 

[koonja]

I have never posted this before, but I heard from a good source that NIU should never have been ruled out during his recruiting. My initial response was no way. However, the source cited out his father played at NIU, and he wanted him close to home. Just FWIW.

Trying to understand what you're saying. Are you saying his father said NUI should have never been ruled out?

 

[Chi_IRISH]

Trying to understand what you're saying. Are you saying his father said NUI should have never been ruled out?

Basically. His father apparently holds the program in high standing (which with the recent sucess I understand). Again, this was not from his father, but someone that has his hands on 7 on 7 teams in the Chicago area. His running style/NIU style of play is a good fit.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

USC, under Haden, hasn't usually restricted transfers. They feel it does more harm than good and that it's best not to alienate future recruits. Kiffin agreed with this and it showed in his recruiting when he would allow and even encourage commits to take visits. I don't know how Sark feels about this, but I'm pretty sure Haden won't restrict Isaac's transfer, even if it is to ND (he has a ton of respect for Notre Dame).

I hope you're right; and if true, big ups to USC. I thought it was simply a matter of course that most schools don't allow transfers to their rivals.

How do Trojan fans feel about his transfer? Isaac was a major want for many on this board.

 

[ResLife Hero]

https://usc.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1641162

USC tailback Ty Isaac made a cross country trip to join the Trojans back in 2013 but now because of family health issues, he'll head back to the Midwest.


Gerard Martinez

Ty Isaac wants to be closer to home
"I've been released from my scholarship at USC," Isaac said. "It was based on a family decision. My mom isn't well so I wanted to be closer to my family."

His mother's health is the only reason he left 'SC.

"I really enjoyed my time at USC but it's decision that I had to make and I made it," Isaac said.

And he'll never forget his teammates and friends out West.

"USC is a great school," Isaac said. "I had an opportunity to play as a freshman on a really good team and do some great things. It's just something that wasn't foreseen but it's a part of life. You make decisions and move forward."

He even wishes he could stay a Trojan.

"I really appreciate USC and the way they treat their players," Isaac said. "I wish it could've worked out because it's a great place. it's just one of those tough decisions but I felt I made the right one to be closer to my family."

Isaac is about to re-enter the recruiting process but he hasn't given much thought to which school could fit him.

"I haven't thought about schools yet," Isaac said. "I'm still thinking about who I'm interested in. I talked to my family here and there about it here and there. Obviously before you get released you can't talk to schools. Now that i am released, I'll let some schools know that I'm available and go from there."

 

[ResLife Hero]

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Then get recruiting big man!

 

[Irishman77]

Ty is 240lbs. Would be the power back we desperately need. I remember him visiting us at the very end and thought we were going to flip him. This would be rediculous if he transferred here!


Video of him this spring: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-0y0VCThU88

 

[Emcee77]

USC, under Haden, hasn't usually restricted transfers. They feel it does more harm than good and that it's best not to alienate future recruits. Kiffin agreed with this and it showed in his recruiting when he would allow and even encourage commits to take visits. I don't know how Sark feels about this, but I'm pretty sure Haden won't restrict Isaac's transfer, even if it is to ND (he has a ton of respect for Notre Dame).

Really? So what about Kyle Prater? He was more the exception than the rule? (No sarcasm, honest question)

 

[Rocket89]

What about Carlisle? He showed more for USC in his year than Isaac did.

Not really.

Isaac, 2013: 40 carries, 236 yards, 2 TD with 4 receptions for 57 yards
@ Hawaii: 1 rush for 4 yards
v. BC: 3 rushes for 18 yards
v. Arizona: 3 rushes for 36 yards
@ Notre Dame: 1 rush for 1 yard
@ Oregon State: 2 rushes for -2 yards
@ Cal: 11 rushes for 87 yards
v. Stanford: 1 rush for 2 yards
@ Colorado: 8 rushes for 26 yards
v. UCLA: 2 rushes for 20 yards
v. Fresno: 8 rushes for 44 yards

Carlisle, 2011: 19 carries, 118 yards, 0 TD with 7 receptions for 41 yards and 1 TD
@ASU: 2 rushes for 14 yards
@ Colorado: 10 rushes for 90 yards
v. Washington: 7 carries for 14 yards

 

[Rack Em]

Got to be Northwestern, right?

I hope not. I respect what Fitzgerald is doing there, but the last thing ND needs is another academic rival getting their shit together in football. Especially one that's only 2 hours from South Bend.

Anywhere but Michigan, NW, or Ohio State.

 

[ResLife Hero]

Not really.

Isaac, 2013: 40 carries, 236 yards, 2 TD with 4 receptions for 57 yards
@ Hawaii: 1 rush for 4 yards
v. BC: 3 rushes for 18 yards
v. Arizona: 3 rushes for 36 yards
@ Notre Dame: 1 rush for 1 yard
@ Oregon State: 2 rushes for -2 yards
@ Cal: 11 rushes for 87 yards
v. Stanford: 1 rush for 2 yards
@ Colorado: 8 rushes for 26 yards
v. UCLA: 2 rushes for 20 yards
v. Fresno: 8 rushes for 44 yards

Carlisle, 2011: 19 carries, 118 yards, 0 TD with 7 receptions for 41 yards and 1 TD
@ASU: 2 rushes for 14 yards
@ Colorado: 10 rushes for 90 yards
v. Washington: 7 carries for 14 yards

To scale, the only comparisons in Isaac's favor are rushing TDs and possibly durability. Carlisle was the starter for at least 1 game before he got hurt.

 

[koonja]

I hope not. I respect what Fitzgerald is doing there, but the last thing ND needs is another academic rival getting their shit together in football. Especially one that's only 2 hours from South Bend.

Anywhere but Michigan, NW, or Ohio State.

This. Stanford going full R***** the last few years has been enough of a pain in the ass for true student-athletes.

 

[Wild Bill]

Fitzgerald has built a great relationship with Joliet Catholic's program. They have a couple guys on their roster from JCA and I believe they are taking in a preferred walk on this year. I'm not implying Fitzgerald did anything wrong here, but given his relationship with Isaac's former teammates and high school coaches, they probably have an advantage here. He grew up about an hour from campus and he could probably crack their two deep quick. Seems like it would be a good fit.

 

[IrishLax]

Per Mike Frank, apparently he reached out to ND as early as January about transferring. Frank also noted that at that time we weren't very interested, and doesn't know if we would be now.

 

[ResLife Hero]

Per Mike Frank, apparently he reached out to ND as early as January about transferring. Frank also noted that at that time we weren't very interested, and doesn't know if we would be now.

Damn, that's a bit surprising and disappointing. Wonder if it has to do with him wanting to stay at RB and Bryant getting a RS.

 

[Rack Em]

Per Mike Frank, apparently he reached out to ND as early as January about transferring. Frank also noted that at that time we weren't very interested, and doesn't know if we would be now.

It would be hard to take him at RB with 3 years of eligibility left. Folston has 3, Bryant has 4 and probably won't use them all if he balls out. It would be adding another back to a crowded stable. But if the staff thinks it's a good use of a scholly, fine by me.

 

[Kaneyoufeelit]

Damn, that's a bit surprising and disappointing. Wonder if it has to do with him wanting to stay at RB and Bryant getting a RS.

That's a possibility, too. I was thinking it had to do with not knowing how the numbers were going to shake out and the staff knowing they had the opportunity to add Riggs.

 

[Emcee77]

Per Mike Frank, apparently he reached out to ND as early as January about transferring. Frank also noted that at that time we weren't very interested, and doesn't know if we would be now.

Wow amazing news ...

Damn, that's a bit surprising and disappointing. Wonder if it has to do with him wanting to stay at RB and Bryant getting a RS.

Yeah, that was my thought, too. But Isaac is such a versatile athlete that I would be surprised we would turn him away. Sure, we probably don't need a RB in his year right now, with Folston and Bryant having three and four years of eligibility left, but Isaac can play WR or LB. I'd certainly take him.

I wonder if our issue in January was that we weren't sure what the scholarship situation was. (EDIT: beaten by Kane on this)

Now we know we have a schollie to give, so I say offer it to him, unless he is dead set on being the #1 RB. We can't promise him that much.

 

[Whiskeyjack]

Unless the staff sees major red flags that we're missing, it's got to be Isaac's determination to stay at RB that's causing the low interest on our part. I can't imagine them turning away an athlete of his caliber if he was open to trying LB.

 

[Big23Head]

I realize the timeline is tight but if he inquired right around the new year GAIII didn't announce until Jan. 8th. Maybe interest has changed since then on NDs end.

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

ND could have given the cold shoulder in January because he hadn't been released to communicate with other schools. After the Vanderdoes situation, ND could just be touchy about contact with student athletes under scholly.

 

[IrishLax]

I realize the timeline is tight but if he inquired right around the new year GAIII didn't announce until Jan. 8th. Maybe interest has changed since then on NDs end.

Also, ND hasn't been hitting it out of the park with RB recruiting this year... so you'd potentially be adding a RB that would have 3 years of eligibility starting in the '15 season... or effectively a '"14" recruit.

 

[Big23Head]

Also, ND hasn't been hitting it out of the park with RB recruiting this year... so you'd potentially be adding a RB that would have 3 years of eligibility starting in the '15 season... or effectively a '"14" recruit.

Agreed, although personally I'd love to see him try OLB.

 

[koonja]

Sounds like it's anyone's guess at this point, but chances he considers ND?

 

[Emcee77]

ND could have given the cold shoulder in January because he hadn't been released to communicate with other schools. After the Vanderdoes situation, ND could just be touchy about contact with student athletes under scholly.

That's another good point.