Donald Sterling is not a progressive thinker

[gkIrish]

Your probably right. Keep Monroe and Drummond and trade Stuckey and picks for Rondo. We would at least be relevant in the east.

But seriously Doc does look like the bear from that movie.

Lol why would Boston trade Rondo for neither Drummond or Monroe?

 

[magogian]

Interesting that Sterling is apparently a registered Republican but appears to have donated only to Democrats.

So, I agree that a correction is in order based on the public record: Sterling is a registered Republican that donates exclusively to Democrats. Moreover, he was set to receive a lifetime achievement award from that notable pro-Republican group, the NAACP.

The media must be frustrated that his political associations defy their usual theme.

 

[woolybug25]

Interesting that Sterling is apparently a registered Republican but appears to have donated only to Democrats.

So, I agree that a correction is in order based on the public record: Sterling is a registered Republican that donates exclusively to Democrats. Moreover, he was set to receive a lifetime achievement award from that notable pro-Republican group, the NAACP.

The media must be frustrated that his political associations defy their usual theme.

Nope… just you...

 

[magogian]

Nope… just you...

My theme is that democrats are just a bunch of racists? Lol, no.

 

[Irish Insanity]

Lol why would Boston trade Rondo for neither Drummond or Monroe?

Dammit let me have my dream.

 

[WakeUpEchoes]

Interesting that Sterling is apparently a registered Republican but appears to have donated only to Democrats.

So, I agree that a correction is in order based on the public record: Sterling is a registered Republican that donates exclusively to Democrats. Moreover, he was set to receive a lifetime achievement award from that notable pro-Republican group, the NAACP.

The media must be frustrated that his political associations defy their usual theme.

What's funny is no one brought up political affiliation except you. Let's be honest, most people who would want to bring up political affiliation on this subject would have just assumed he was a Republican and posted about it without checking. But no one did. Because no one gives a fuck except you.

And what's also funny is you are a Republican (I'm assuming). So we have a Republican, bringing up political affiliation on this subject, and then ends up being flat out wrong about it. Why are you still hollering about Democrats again?

And I don't want to hear about Sterling donating to Democrats because many people crossed the party line and donated to Obama.

 

[aubeirish]

So I finally listened to some of the TMZ audio. Am I the only one having the impression that they are reading from a script? It sounds like bad acting lol.
Anyways, to be this racist and to own a basketball team is just a weird thing to me.

 

[Huntr]

hehe, arguing political affiliation of a cockbag like Sterling.

Fear, uncertainty and doubt (FUD) is a tactic used in sales, marketing, public relations, politics and propaganda.

FUD is generally a strategic attempt to influence perception by disseminating negative and dubious or false information.

 

[Cackalacky]

Interesting that Sterling is apparently a registered Republican but appears to have donated only to Democrats.

So, I agree that a correction is in order based on the public record: Sterling is a registered Republican that donates exclusively to Democrats. Moreover, he was set to receive a lifetime achievement award from that notable pro-Republican group, the NAACP.

The media must be frustrated that his political associations defy their usual theme.

God, per the link you provided he donated to 3 Democrats in 1989 and 1991 for a whopping total of $4,000. This is hardly exclusive. He is not even listed in the opensecrets site you linked to after this. L O frieking L.
http://www.opensecrets.org/indivs/search.php?name=sterling%2C+donald&state=CA&zip=&employ=&cand=&c2014=Y&old=Y&sort=N&capcode=pdgbm&submit=Submit+your+Donor+Query

What you are bitching about is clearly the right wing working backward to fit their own world view. No one else made this a political issue except you and the shite rightwing political website you got that referenced opensecrets.org link from.

 

[pkt77242]

Interesting that Sterling is apparently a registered Republican but appears to have donated only to Democrats.

So, I agree that a correction is in order based on the public record: Sterling is a registered Republican that donates exclusively to Democrats. Moreover, he was set to receive a lifetime achievement award from that notable pro-Republican group, the NAACP.

The media must be frustrated that his political associations defy their usual theme.

You are an idiot. He last donated to Democrats over 20 years ago but since the. Has registered as a Republican. Why must everything be political to you? Can we have a thread without you bringing politics into it?

 

[ResLife Hero]

Simmons is guessing we see the nuclear option today. I'm not sure how they could be this harsh without getting buried in legal limbo for years:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>What I'm expecting today, Part 1: Silver announces lifetime suspension for DS and that he's starting franchise termination process ASAP.</p>— Bill Simmons (@BillSimmons) <a href="https://twitter.com/BillSimmons/statuses/461184937073192960">April 29, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>What I'm expecting today, Part 2: NBA Players Assoc. demands July free agency for all Clipper players unless NBA sells Clippers ASAP.</p>— Bill Simmons (@BillSimmons) <a href="https://twitter.com/BillSimmons/statuses/461185332109537282">April 29, 2014</a></blockquote>
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[Huntr]

Simmons is guessing we see the nuclear option today. I'm not sure how they could be this harsh without getting buried in legal limbo for years:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>What I'm expecting today, Part 1: Silver announces lifetime suspension for DS and that he's starting franchise termination process ASAP.</p>— Bill Simmons (@BillSimmons) <a href="https://twitter.com/BillSimmons/statuses/461184937073192960">April 29, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>What I'm expecting today, Part 2: NBA Players Assoc. demands July free agency for all Clipper players unless NBA sells Clippers ASAP.</p>— Bill Simmons (@BillSimmons) <a href="https://twitter.com/BillSimmons/statuses/461185332109537282">April 29, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Yeah, none of that is happening. Simmons, once again, making himself out to be the news. Fine and suspension, inc.

 

[IrishJayhawk]

Interesting that Sterling is apparently a registered Republican but appears to have donated only to Democrats.

So, I agree that a correction is in order based on the public record: Sterling is a registered Republican that donates exclusively to Democrats. Moreover, he was set to receive a lifetime achievement award from that notable pro-Republican group, the NAACP.

The media must be frustrated that his political associations defy their usual theme.

Wow. I can smell your cognitive dissonance through the computer.

 

[Cackalacky]

Yeah, none of that is happening. Simmons, once again, making himself out to be the news. Fine and suspension, inc.

If this was FIFA, there would be fines, point deductions and possibly relegation to a lower league. #Merica

 

[Huntr]

If this was FIFA, there would be fines, point deductions and possibly relegation to a lower league. #Merica

And they'd be playing games in an empty arena.

 

[Cackalacky]

Munson: Challenge for Donald Sterling - ESPN

Details Silver's powers as commissioner.

 

[irishog77]

Simmons is guessing we see the nuclear option today. I'm not sure how they could be this harsh without getting buried in legal limbo for years:
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>What I'm expecting today, Part 1: Silver announces lifetime suspension for DS and that he's starting franchise termination process ASAP.</p>— Bill Simmons (@BillSimmons) <a href="https://twitter.com/BillSimmons/statuses/461184937073192960">April 29, 2014</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>What I'm expecting today, Part 2: NBA Players Assoc. demands July free agency for all Clipper players unless NBA sells Clippers ASAP.</p>— Bill Simmons (@BillSimmons) <a href="https://twitter.com/BillSimmons/statuses/461185332109537282">April 29, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Agreed, ResLife. As I said before, this is very tricky for Silver. By and large, this involves property and collectively bargained agreements (regarding FA for players). It's not anywhere close to as simple as many out there believe it to be.


When Penn State was punished by the ncaa, my thought was that they deserved everything they got...yet simultaneously believing the ncaa wayyyyyy overstepped their authority and believed they had extremely little right in punishing the university the way they did. But public opinion was firmly in the ncaa's corner and fighting and appealing the action taken against them would sink Penn State even further down their spiral. My prediction for Sterling is somewhat similar-- Silver hits him with something extremely harsh (and perhaps illegal/unjust), yet public opinion and the daily decreasing value of his property forces him to accept.

 

[woolybug25]

And they'd be playing games in an empty arena.

I doubt it. FIFA fans can be racist themselves. This situation just happened, one of many occasions where black players have had bananas thrown at them onto the field.

Daniel Alves banana racist taunt sparks outrage as FIFA and Barcelona back defender - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

Their players have thick skin though. I thought it was awesome how Alves handled this.

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[Cackalacky]

Agreed, ResLife. As I said before, this is very tricky for Silver. By and large, this involves property and collectively bargained agreements (regarding FA for players). It's not anywhere close to as simple as many out there believe it to be.


When Penn State was punished by the ncaa, my thought was that they deserved everything they got...yet simultaneously believing the ncaa wayyyyyy overstepped their authority and believed they had extremely little right in punishing the university the way they did. But public opinion was firmly in the ncaa's corner and fighting and appealing the action taken against them would sink Penn State even further down their spiral. My prediction for Sterling is somewhat similar-- Silver hits him with something extremely harsh (and perhaps illegal/unjust), yet public opinion and the daily decreasing value of his property forces him to accept.

Per my link above, Silver has every bit of the authority to do what was posted in the tweets:

What penalties can Silver issue?

A: Under the provisions of the bylaws, Silver has two sets of powers that he may use. Under either, he can issue a lifetime suspension and a substantial fine. Under Paragraph 24(l) of the constitution that was adopted by the NBA owners on Oct. 26, 2005, he can issue a fine of up to $2.5 million, can suspend an owner indefinitely and can order the forfeiture of draft picks. This provision applies to situations that are not covered by specific rules within the constitution. In another provision, Paragraph 35(A)(c), Silver can issue an indefinite suspension and a fine of $1 million to any owner who "makes ... a statement having or designed to have an effect prejudicial or detrimental to the best interests of basketball." If Silver wants to hammer Sterling, he can assert that Sterling's statements are so egregious that they go beyond the misconduct contemplated in Paragraph 35 and allow Silver to assess the greater penalties found in Paragraph 24. Sterling can argue that he merely made a statement, but the statement at a minimum allows a lifetime suspension and a $1 million fine.

Q: Is it possible for Silver and the NBA to terminate Sterling's franchise ownership?

A: Yes. Under the terms of Paragraph 13 of the constitution, the owners can terminate another owner's franchise with a vote of three-fourths of the NBA Board of Governors, which is composed of all 30 owners. The power to terminate is limited to things like gambling and fraud in the application for ownership, but it also includes a provision for termination when an owner "fails to fulfill" a "contractual obligation" in "such a way as to affect the [NBA] or its members adversely." Silver and the owners could assert that Sterling's statements violated the constitution's requirements to conduct business on a "reasonable" and "ethical" level.

Any owner or Silver can initiate the termination procedure with a written charge describing the violation. Sterling would have five days to respond to the charge with a written answer. The commissioner would then schedule a special meeting of the NBA Board of Governors within 10 days. Both sides would have a chance to present their evidence, and then the board would vote. If three-fourths of the board members vote to terminate, then Sterling would face termination of his ownership. It would require a vote of two-thirds of the board to reduce the termination to a fine. Terminating a franchise would obviously be a drastic remedy, but the potential of the termination procedure gives Silver and the other owners vast leverage in any discussion with Sterling about an involuntary sale of his team.

Q: Sterling is notoriously litigious. Can he go to court to stop Silver from punishing him?

A: Not effectively. When Silver issues his punishment to Sterling, the decision is final. The constitution provides in Paragraph 24(m) that a commissioner's decision shall be "final, binding, and conclusive" and shall be as final as an award of arbitration. It is almost impossible to find a judge in the United States judicial system who would set aside an award of arbitration. Sterling can file a lawsuit, but he would face a humiliating defeat early in the process. There is no antitrust theory or principle that would help him against Silver and the NBA. He could claim an antitrust violation, for example, if he were trying to move his team to a different market. But under the terms of the NBA constitution, he has no chance to succeed in litigation over punishment.

 

[irishog77]

"Sterling will be suspended indefinitely and fined $5M and not be forced to sell the team."

This floating around on internet. Guess we'll probably know for sure in a few minutes.

 

[WakeUpEchoes]

I doubt it. FIFA fans can be racist themselves. This situation just happened, one of many occasions where black players have had bananas thrown at them onto the field.

Daniel Alves banana racist taunt sparks outrage as FIFA and Barcelona back defender - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

Their players have thick skin though. I thought it was awesome how Alves handled this.

I also liked how Dani handled it. Super funny.

I'm pretty sure the fan that threw it got a lifetime ban from the stadium.

 

[irishog77]

Per my link above, Silver has every bit of the authority to do what was posted in the tweets:

I didn't see anything in there about players becoming free agents at season's end.

Suspension is one thing, but it looks like literally taking away the team (property) takes a significant amount of the owners being on board as well. Mark Cuban had some interesting things to say regarding that. Also doesn't seem like Sterling failed to fulfill a contractual obligation. I guess the term "contractual obligation" is pretty vague to us right now. What contracts does he have and what contracts is this referring to I wonder?

 

[WakeUpEchoes]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>RT <a href="https://twitter.com/NBCNews">@NBCNews</a>: <a href="https://twitter.com/NBCNews">@NBCNews</a> confirms that Donald Sterling has been suspended indefinitely and fined $5M, according to a senior NBA official.</p>— NowWithAlex (@NowWithAlex) <a href="https://twitter.com/NowWithAlex/statuses/461203634152157184">April 29, 2014</a></blockquote>
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[Huntr]

I doubt it. FIFA fans can be racist themselves. This situation just happened, one of many occasions where black players have had bananas thrown at them onto the field.

Daniel Alves banana racist taunt sparks outrage as FIFA and Barcelona back defender - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

Their players have thick skin though. I thought it was awesome how Alves handled this.

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I think the difference would be, in this NBA case, the owner is the offending a-hole, not just a fan or section of fans. Owner doing racist stuff would cause the hammer to fall mighty hard, IMO.

Alves handled that perfectly.

 

[WakeUpEchoes]

I think this means Cuban is pissed.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>It exists for a reason <a href="http://t.co/12XaYQmiQ5">http://t.co/12XaYQmiQ5</a></p>— Mark Cuban (@mcuban) <a href="https://twitter.com/mcuban/statuses/461205718486749184">April 29, 2014</a></blockquote>
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[Cackalacky]

I didn't see anything in there about players becoming free agents at season's end.

Suspension is one thing, but it looks like literally taking away the team (property) takes a significant amount of the owners being on board as well. Mark Cuban had some interesting things to say regarding that. Also doesn't seem like Sterling failed to fulfill a contractual obligation. I guess the term "contractual obligation" is pretty vague to us right now. What contracts does he have and what contracts is this referring to I wonder?

The players and free agent would be a Union issue (probably allowable in the Collective Bargaining Agreement) but Silver can, along with 3/4 of the owners, approve the termination of Sterling's ownership.

 

[Huntr]

I think this means Cuban is pissed.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>It exists for a reason <a href="http://t.co/12XaYQmiQ5">http://t.co/12XaYQmiQ5</a></p>— Mark Cuban (@mcuban) <a href="https://twitter.com/mcuban/statuses/461205718486749184">April 29, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Yeah, that's great, Mark. We wouldn't know because the NBA constitution isn't publicly available.

 

[Cackalacky]

I doubt it. FIFA fans can be racist themselves. This situation just happened, one of many occasions where black players have had bananas thrown at them onto the field.

Daniel Alves banana racist taunt sparks outrage as FIFA and Barcelona back defender - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

Their players have thick skin though. I thought it was awesome how Alves handled this.

Big brother is always watching soccer games so whoever did that is probably dead.

 

[gkIrish]

Banned for life. WOW

 

[condoms SUCk]

I was listening to the radio and a caller says that Sterling was set up by someone who wants his team but they really didn't have an avenue so they came up with a plan.
1). Get a young female to get close to Sterling
2). Create a huge controversy
3). Price of the team goes down/ pressure to sell team
4). Person/people who wanted to buy the team can swoop in.

This guy thinks that Magic Johnson and his investment team (Guggenheim) are the ones behind this.
Sterling has a history of this kind of stuff and used his money to contribute to various causes as a way to keep his past transgressions hush hush.
Heck the local NAACP gave him awards as a thank you for the contributions. (Wink wink)
People know Sterlings tendencies and hence why he was targeted.
Also interesting is the fact that Sterling's young squeeze has a history of hanging out with LA professional players, and yes even Magic Johnson so she may have been involved in the plot to begin with.
So here is how it was suppose to play out. Have Sterling to say something stupid, get your accomplice to record it. Leak it to the media, that would create a fire storm, pressure gets put on Sterling to sell the team and bam, Magic Johnson and Guggenheim buys the team.

Now I'm not saying this guy is 100% but I do rather enjoy a good conspiracy theory.
Would kinda explain the odd recording and why a 20 something year old is hanging out with an 80 year old.