'15 MN DE/OLB Jashon Cornell (Ohio State Verbal)

[Bogtrotter07]

Yeah now they'll want to form a union!

How about a wall?

 

[STLDomer]

To me it's a ND/UM battle for Hilliard/Cornell and with neither deciding anytime soon I'll take ND in the marathon. Michigan can't hang till NSD for guys like this.

 

[Pops Freshenmeyer]

I tend to think Ws and Ls are a bit overrated in recruitibg but it would be really nice to hand Michigan an L and get the negativity surrounding Hoke a chance to spread some more.

 

[Veritate Duce Progredi]

To me it's a ND/UM battle for Hilliard/Cornell and with neither deciding anytime soon I'll take ND in the marathon. Michigan can't hang till NSD for guys like this.

Minus Peppers. They seemed to hang with him long enough.

 

[koonja]

To me it's a ND/UM battle for Hilliard/Cornell and with neither deciding anytime soon I'll take ND in the marathon. Michigan can't hang till NSD for guys like this.

Minus Peppers. They seemed to hang with him long enough.

I think what STL is saying, is Michigan wraps up its recruiting really early, and doesn't like NSD-like decisions. So if someone's not under their spell by late fall, they basically cross them off of their board.

Or I could be completely wrong, but that'd be the first time.

 

[STLDomer]

Minus Peppers. They seemed to hang with him long enough.

I think what STL is saying, is Michigan wraps up its recruiting really early, and doesn't like NSD-like decisions. So if someone's not under their spell by late fall, they basically cross them off of their board.

Or I could be completely wrong, but that'd be the first time.

Your right Coon.

Peppers committed to Michigan in May.

I'm talking about guys that commit in January/NSD like Hilliard and Cornell likely will.

 

[greyhammer90]

I think what STL is saying, is Michigan wraps up its recruiting really early, and doesn't like NSD-like decisions. So if someone's not under their spell by late fall, they basically cross them off of their board.

Or I could be completely wrong, but that'd be the first time.

Yep. The Michigan staff are not known as late closers. Our staff usually makes a few big pushes just before February, Michigan's staff does their barbecue thing and tries to "Texas it" by getting their numbers early and hanging on for deal life the rest of the cycle.

 

[Crazy Balki]

Your right Coon.

Peppers committed to Michigan in May.

I'm talking about guys that commit in January/NSD like Hilliard and Cornell likely will.

Didn't Hilliard say he was planning on committing before the season started?

 

[Luckylucci]

Didn't Hilliard say he was planning on committing before the season started?

He has said he'd like to commit with enough time to recruit others but nothin that I've seen about before the season. Recently he talked about his potential OVs

 

[Crazy Balki]

He has said he'd like to commit with enough time to recruit others but nothin that I've seen about before the season. Recently he talked about his potential OVs

That sounded more like it. Even so, I'd have to say if that were the case, he'd have to at least commit before the new year.

 

[IrishLax]

One of Hilliard or Cornell said recently in an interview that they wanted to select a school by the end of August. Can't remember which off the top of my head.

 

[CanadalovesND]

One of Hilliard or Cornell said recently in an interview that they wanted to select a school by the end of August. Can't remember which off the top of my head.

Appears it was Cornell.

Saint Paul (Minn.) Cretin Derham Hall five-star DL Jashon Cornell...

Saint Paul (Minn.) Cretin Derham Hall five-star DL Jashon Cornell has yet to narrow his list of offers, but a source close to the situation indicates that the main players at this point are Notre Dame, Michigan, Michigan State, Ole Miss & UCLA.

The source maintains Notre Dame is in the driver's seat. Cornell is expected to visit again on Saturday after the NFTC in Chicago.
Michigan & Michigan State are in strong position while the Rebels & Bruins are potential dark horses.

Expected to make a decision on Aug. 17. Cornell himself has named no favorites.

 

[Henges24]

I haven't followed Cornell's or Hilliard's recruitment very much (still a little early for me to get into it) but...

...without being a homer what are your guy's thoughts on our chances of landing both of them?

 

[koonja]

I haven't followed Cornell's or Hilliard's recruitment very much (still a little early for me to get into it) but...

...without being a homer what are your guy's thoughts on our chances of landing both of them?

There's about 20 people on here who know more than I do, but from what I've read, I'd say strong to quite strong. OSU seems to be out of the picture, and all of the buzz is in ND's favor, and UM is our best competition I think.

 

[Henges24]

There's about 20 people on here who know more than I do, but from what I've read, I'd say strong to quite strong.

God I hope so. They seem like huge difference makers for ND on the field and in recruiting. And they want to play with each other, am I correct? I know MICH fans seem pretty good about Hilliard.

 

[jerboski]

God I hope so. They seem like huge difference makers for ND on the field and in recruiting. And they want to play with each other, am I correct? I know MICH fans seem pretty good about Hilliard.

They have stated they would like to play together however we hear this kind of talk a lot. Steve even said that landing one would probably help landing the other however they aren't a package deal as each will make their own decision so I wouldn't go overboard about them wanting to play together. I think ND, Michigan and Iowa are in it for Hillard. Jashon is tougher but if I had to guess it would be ND and Michigan.

 

[NDdomer2]

just 20 kuehn?

 

[koonja]

just 20 kuehn?

Well apparently Johnny Manziel is smarter than me, per his wonderlic score, so let's round it up to 1,000.

 

[md_bennett]

Well apparently Johnny Manziel is smarter than me, per his wonderlic score, so let's round it up to 1,000.

A small part of me died when I heard that he had the best QB score.

 

[IrishLax]

There are no two recruits more important than Cornell/Hilliard to close on. Wrapping up both by the end of the summer is hugely important for whether this class is head for top 10 and maybe top 5... or somewhere in the teens.

Bilal/Cornell/Hilliard/Taylor would be one heck of a start for the front 7. And I have no doubt they'll help reel in some other talented players.

 

[Luckylucci]

There are no two recruits more important than Cornell/Hilliard to close on. Wrapping up both by the end of the summer is hugely important for whether this class is head for top 10 and maybe top 5... or somewhere in the teens.

Bilal/Cornell/Hilliard/Taylor would be one heck of a start for the front 7. And I have no doubt they'll help reel in some other talented players.

If we land that before summer is over that would allow us to be picky come fall and winter. Which is always a great place to be in. 1 more DT, LB, and DE and we'd be set.

 

[West Coast Domer]

Morgan, Smith, Hilliard ,Cornell. MY GOD

 

[Luckylucci]

Morgan, Smith, Hilliard ,Cornell. MY GOD

While I agree with your thought process. I like Blankenship and Trumbetti more than Cornell as pass rushers. Cornell is going to have some interesting competition if he were to suit up for ND over the next few years. Throw Williams in that mix as well.

 

[koonja]

While I agree with your thought process. I like Blankenship and Trumbetti more than Cornell as pass rushers. Cornell is going to have some interesting competition if he were to suit up for ND over the next few years. Throw Williams in that mix as well.

Yeah, but we have pass-rushers-galore in the 2014 class (Bonner, Blankership, Williams, Trumbetti). From what little I've seen, I think Cornell would be a better every down DL. Him and Hayes will be good against the run, IMO, and better than those above.

 

[NDinL.A.]

Hate to rain on any parade, but ND really fucked up with Cornell and has a lot of ground to make up. As has been stated, Diaco wasn't a big fan bc of Cornell's size, and it was off-putting for Cornell bc while ND was kinda recruiting him, Michigan and others were putting in major work with him.

Coming tomorrow night would be huge, but make no mistake, ND put themselves in a hole here.

 

[Luckylucci]

Yeah, but we have pass-rushers-galore in the 2014 class (Bonner, Blankership, Williams, Trumbetti). From what little I've seen, I think Cornell would be a better every down DL. Him and Hayes will be good against the run, IMO, and better than those above.

Because of the amount of weight he's gained recently he's being projected as more of a SDE so you'd expect him to be better against the run than some of those guys. Keep in mind that Trumbetti will have been in the system for 1 1/2 years and everybody else 1 year. Look at some of the differences players have made under kelly from freshman to sophomore or year 1 to year 2. All I was getting at is I don't see Cornell having as much day 1 impact as some may think.

 

[ThePiombino]

Hate to rain on any parade, but ND really fucked up with Cornell and has a lot of ground to make up. As has been stated, Diaco wasn't a big fan bc of Cornell's size, and it was off-putting for Cornell bc while ND was kinda recruiting him, Michigan and others were putting in major work with him.

Coming tomorrow night would be huge, but make no mistake, ND put themselves in a hole here.

I know hindsight is 20/20, but I wish someone had stepped in while Diaco was clearly cock blocking ND's chances with some serious D talent...

 

[Cackalacky]

 

[luckoftheirish11]

Per Christian at ISD, Cornell will indeed make it to ND later today. IMO, kind of a big deal. It's a lot of trouble for him to go out of the way for a very short visit and he has to drive back to MN tomorrow. Christian thinks we still have a great shot, and that Cornell has an extremely close relationship to onwualu. Has in the past even called them close to brother like status.

 

[Luckylucci]

Per Christian at ISD, Cornell will indeed make it to ND later today. IMO, kind of a big deal. It's a lot of trouble for him to go out of the way for a very short visit and he has to drive back to MN tomorrow. Christian thinks we still have a great shot, and that Cornell has an extremely close relationship to onwualu. Has in the past even called them close to brother like status.

He told one of the sites that they talk everyday. That's why I don't believe we are in that big of a hole. However I don't believe this is a slam dunk like some might think.