'13 AR RB Altee Tenpenny (Alabama Verbal)

[T Town Tommy]

When are these players gonna learn? I have no sympathy for what comes Tenpenny's way.

 

[Irish Man3]

When are these players gonna learn? I have no sympathy for what comes Tenpenny's way.

Of course you don't because there's 6 more just like him and better lol. They just havent got caught yet.

 

[Irish#1]

When are these players gonna learn? I have no sympathy for what comes Tenpenny's way.

They never do.

 

[dublinirish]

When are these players gonna learn? I have no sympathy for what comes Tenpenny's way.

in fairness an atmosphere for players at a school like bama is going to do nothing to even attempt to change any of these players behaviours. they are basically there to do what they do/be who they are and then flip off to the NFL after a few years and if they dont think then no worries let's bring in the next group who will.

 

[phork]

When are these players gonna learn? I have no sympathy for what comes Tenpenny's way.

Double secret probation.

 

[Cackalacky]

in fairness an atmosphere for players at a school like bama is going to do nothing to even attempt to change any of these players behaviours. they are basically there to do what they do/be who they are and then flip off to the NFL after a few years and if they dont think then no worries let's bring in the next group who will.

No No No No No... You have it all wrong. Alabama provided millions of dollars of academic support for their student athletes each year. Academics are of the utmost importance.

 

[Me2SouthBend]

“I’m aware of the situation with Altee and this is obviously not the kind of behavior we expect from our players,” Nick Saban said in a statement.

What Saban failed to say was "Altee knows he should have had his agent carrying this weed for him. We've covered this numerous times and obviously we'll need to cover it again. And I still can't explain why he's driving that hunk of shit car w the license plate light out when he received a perfectly good 2012 Escalade when he arrived on campus."

 

[IrishLion]

I'm still wondering what the rules for weed will be for athletes in 5 years when it's legal everywhere.

 

[woolybug25]

I'm still wondering what the rules for weed will be for athletes in 5 years when it's legal everywhere.

I think that when it's legal everywhere, it will still have a minimum age requirement. In CO, that age is 21.

 

[Rizzophil]

I'm still wondering what the rules for weed will be for athletes in 5 years when it's legal everywhere.

Yep. Culture rot

 

[IrishLion]

I think that when it's legal everywhere, it will still have a minimum age requirement. In CO, that age is 21.

Oh snap I thought it was 18.

But still, I do find a bit of irony in the fact that we condemn these kids for partaking in something that will soon be socially acceptable. Pulling over an 18-year-old college student with weed in his car will be no different than pulling over an underage college student with beer in his car, aka no huge deal. It's an interesting time legally/morally that the country is entering.

 

[dublinirish]

Oh snap I thought it was 18.

But still, I do find a bit of irony in the fact that we condemn these kids for partaking in something that will soon be socially acceptable. Pulling over an 18-year-old college student with weed in his car will be no different than pulling over an underage college student with beer in his car, aka no huge deal. It's an interesting time legally/morally that the country is entering.

you accept a scholarship to an NCAA school then you live by their rules. Shows a lack of maturity when a kid like Tenpenny basically just has to stay out of trouble for 3 years and workout and most likely he will become a millionaire and he can't even do that.

 

[woolybug25]

I do find it funny that everyone is acting like this kid is the worst person ever for something that several of our own players have been busted doing the last few seasons.

Kinda hypocrytical...

 

[Rhode Irish]

I hope nothing happens to the kid as a result with respect to his football career or status as a student at Alabama. Ridiculous that people still have to answer for this type of thing. One of the most absurd things about our society.

 

[Rack Em]

Guys, this isn't a weed culture at Bama or the SEC. It's all of college football. Don't think ND or any school is immune to this.

Doesn't make it less wrong or less illegal, but college football has created a culture where football players, by and large, get whatever they want and get away with whatever they want. The whole freaking institution needs to be cleaned up.

 

[Irish#1]

I'm still wondering what the rules for weed will be for athletes in 5 years when it's legal everywhere.

Oh snap I thought it was 18.

But still, I do find a bit of irony in the fact that we condemn these kids for partaking in something that will soon be socially acceptable. Pulling over an 18-year-old college student with weed in his car will be no different than pulling over an underage college student with beer in his car, aka no huge deal. It's an interesting time legally/morally that the country is entering.

IL10, this movement, debate, change has been going on since the late 60's. It may eventually be legal everywhere, but it won't happen in the next five years.

 

[Rack Em]

I hope nothing happens to the kid as a result with respect to his football career or status as a student at Alabama. Ridiculous that people still have to answer for this type of thing. One of the most absurd things about our society.

Look, I'm not going to argue with you but it's still illegal. I think it's stupid that Illinois has speed limits at 65, but if I get caught speeding I still get in trouble.

 

[Rack Em]

I do find it funny that everyone is acting like this kid is the worst person ever for something that several of our own players have been busted doing the last few seasons.

Kinda hypocrytical...

I didn't read your post before I posted. This is spot on.

 

[Cackalacky]

I do find it funny that everyone is acting like this kid is the worst person ever for something that several of our own players have been busted doing the last few seasons.

Kinda hypocrytical...

Yeah I don't care one way or the other but until it is legal its against the law. Our potheads also transferred out. I will be surprised if he leaves Alabama. Well maybe not since they have 25 5 Rbs on the roster.

 

[irishtrooper]

Like it or not it is still against the rules. Why is this so difficult for so many to understand? It is not a question of whether it is socially acceptable. It is something these kids know they should not do in their situation.

 

[Irish Houstonian]

Meh. Over 40% of high schoolers have smoked weed.

And let's be honest -- the whole "inoperable license plate light" is almost always bullshit. It basically goes "Hmmm. There's a suspicous vehicle...Is it speeding? No...Has his tire touched a line? No...Has he failed to signal? No...Has he failed to come to a comlpete stop? No...Any taillights out? No...Can I use the too-dark tinting excuse? Probably not. Oh look -- his license plate light is too dim! And even if it isn't, he'll probably admit to something anyway, giving me additional probable cause! Team RamRod to the rescue!"

 

[IrishLion]

IL10, this movement, debate, change has been going on since the late 60's. It may eventually be legal everywhere, but it won't happen in the next five years.

I was over-exaggerating the time frame, but I think it will be much sooner than many people anticipate. The argument about how long it has taken to this point (as you said, since the late 60's) is moot now, at least from what I've been told by friends who are more familiar with the facts than I am. With Colorado and Washington in the fold, I guess I expect a domino effect that speeds up the process.

 

[IrishLion]

you accept a scholarship to an NCAA school then you live by their rules. Shows a lack of maturity when a kid like Tenpenny basically just has to stay out of trouble for 3 years and workout and most likely he will become a millionaire and he can't even do that.

Like it or not it is still against the rules. Why is this so difficult for so many to understand? It is not a question of whether it is socially acceptable. It is something these kids know they should not do in their situation.

I'm not saying that he shouldn't be in trouble. He signs on the line, he follows the rules, plain and simple.

I just think it's an interesting dynamic not just here, but what will eventually be all over the country... people have been raised to view weed as "wrong" and often people immediately connect that to morals and make large, sweeping judgments about a kid's character for getting caught with a joint. Is he dumb? Yes. Is he a terrible person? Probably not, but you wouldn't know that based on how some people feel.

 

[irishtrooper]

Meh. Over 40% of high schoolers have smoked weed.

And let's be honest -- the whole "inoperable license plate light" is almost always bullshit. It basically goes "Hmmm. There's a suspicous vehicle...Is it speeding? No...Has his tire touched a line? No...Has he failed to signal? No...Has he failed to come to a comlpete stop? No...Any taillights out? No...Can I use the too-dark tinting excuse? Probably not. Oh look -- his license plate light is too dim! And even if it isn't, he'll probably admit to something anyway, giving me additional probable cause! Team RamRod to the rescue!"

Sort of missing the point. If it is illegal to have a certain light inoperable, then why is the stop wrong? If he has an illegal substance, why is it wrong to arrest him for that? It just sounds like you are trying to excuse his behavior because you do not agree with the laws. This kid knew he should not have marijuana, yet he had it anyway. It really is as simple as that.

 

[woolybug25]

Sort of missing the point. If it is illegal to have a certain light inoperable, then why is the stop wrong? If he has an illegal substance, why is it wrong to arrest him for that? It just sounds like you are trying to excuse his behavior because you do not agree with the laws. This kid knew he should not have marijuana, yet he had it anyway. It really is as simple as that.

There is literally ALWAYS something you can find for pulling someone over (obstruction of vision, inoperable taillight, window tint, etc) and because of that, many police officers use them as an excuse to pull people over something that is illegal for THEM to do... profiling.

 

[irishtrooper]

There is literally ALWAYS something you can find for pulling someone over (obstruction of vision, inoperable taillight, window tint, etc) and because of that, many police officers use them as an excuse to pull people over something that is illegal for THEM to do... profiling.

There literally is not always a reason to pull somebody over. Granted, the traffic laws are many and seemingly overkill. However, these laws were passed and the police enforce them. If the light is out, I have trouble understanding why people would have a problem with him being stopped. I would also grant that there may likely be a few officers that do profile. It however would seem that if a violation is committed and a motorist is stopped for said violation...... That should equate to a lawful stop. Too many people get upset about a (in their mind) silly reason to get pulled over. It may be possible that certain officers stop many people for these types of violations, and only make arrests beyond that when there is a reason to do so. At the end of the day, if you get stopped for tinted windows and are intoxicated or in possession of contraband why do some people act like the police are profiling or the like? I can tell you that MANY serious and dangerous criminals are apprehended due to these same traffic laws that you trivialize. I, for the record am not saying this kid is dangerous or even a criminal. Just trying to make a point about the broad brush being used by some.

 

[Irish Houstonian]

Sort of missing the point. If it is illegal to have a certain light inoperable, then why is the stop wrong? If he has an illegal substance, why is it wrong to arrest him for that? It just sounds like you are trying to excuse his behavior because you do not agree with the laws. This kid knew he should not have marijuana, yet he had it anyway. It really is as simple as that.

I'm not saying it was "wrong" to stop him or arrest him -- you're right, the law's the law.

But as a citizen it is very frustrating when Law Enforcement isn't looking anymore to protect anyone, or prevent crime, but rather is actively looking for reasons, no matter how small, to just bust citizens.

And not only is it frustrating to the citizenry, it's also arguably a waste of law enforcement resources to be pulling people over for these piddly little reasons. Surely there are better uses of cop time.

 

[woolybug25]

There literally is not always a reason to pull somebody over. Granted, the traffic laws are many and seemingly overkill. However, these laws were passed and the police enforce them. If the light is out, I have trouble understanding why people would have a problem with him being stopped. I would also grant that there may likely be a few officers that do profile. It however would seem that if a violation is committed and a motorist is stopped for said violation...... That should equate to a lawful stop. Too many people get upset about a (in their mind) silly reason to get pulled over. It may be possible that certain officers stop many people for these types of violations, and only make arrests beyond that when there is a reason to do so. At the end of the day, if you get stopped for tinted windows and are intoxicated or in possession of contraband why do some people act like the police are profiling or the like? I can tell you that MANY serious and dangerous criminals are apprehended due to these same traffic laws that you trivialize. I, for the record am not saying this kid is dangerous or even a criminal. Just trying to make a point about the broad brush being used by some.

So everybody they see on the road with a dim license plate light or obstruction hanging from their rear view mirror are pulled over?

Are you saying that police don't use the myriad of possible "violations" as an excuse to pull over people they think look "suspiscious"?

For instance, a young black kid driving a nice car in Arkansas during spring break?

 

[Rhode Irish]

Sort of missing the point. If it is illegal to have a certain light inoperable, then why is the stop wrong? If he has an illegal substance, why is it wrong to arrest him for that? It just sounds like you are trying to excuse his behavior because you do not agree with the laws. This kid knew he should not have marijuana, yet he had it anyway. It really is as simple as that.

This is only my opinion, obviously, but in the big picture it is wrong because it is a huge waste of everyone's time and money. What value does making that stop and that arrest bring to society? Zero. It just potentially makes a kid's life much more difficult than it needs to be and costs a bunch of people a bunch of money, and results in absolutely no benefit to anyone.

There is literally nothing more infuriating to me than the "it is wrong because it is illegal" argument. Is the law your default moral compass or something? There are a lot of morally reprehensible behaviors that are technically legal and lots of illegal behaviors that are at worst morally neutral.

 

[PANDFAN]

I'm not saying it was "wrong" to stop him or arrest him -- you're right, the law's the law.

But as a citizen it is very frustrating when Law Enforcement isn't looking anymore to protect anyone, or prevent crime, but rather is actively looking for reasons, no matter how small, to just bust citizens.

And not only is it frustrating to the citizenry, it's also arguably a waste of law enforcement resources to be pulling people over for these piddly little reasons. Surely there are better uses of cop time.

I absolutely HATE getting pulled over, i am also a BIG SUPPORTER of legalization of marijuana ...but a lot of times they are preventing things from happening....look a maurice clarrett who had an arsenal of weapons and was pulled over...what was he going to do w/ all those guns?? so it's a double edged sword to me