'12 MO WR Dorial Green-Beckham (Missouri Commit)

[T Town Tommy]

Is he being charged with a felony? The article didn't say.

If convicted of a felony, I believe he would be ineligible under NCAA rules.

Missouri WR Dorial Green-Beckham arrested - Columbia Daily Tribune | Columbia Missouri: Behind The Stripes

No charges have been filed against Green-Beckham "at this time," she said, and the department has no further comment on the matter as it is an "ongoing investigation."

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

Justin Blackmon 2.0

Justin Blackmon has a worse problem. Blackmon has drinking issues while DGB smokes weed. This charge is ridiculous.

 

[NDinL.A.]

Justin Blackmon has a worse problem. Blackmon has drinking issues while DGB smokes weed. This charge is ridiculous.

You don't know who has worse problems...you know nothing about these circumstances and what issues DGB has. There are alcohol addicts and weed addicts.

And whatever you feel about MJ laws, DGB knows them and has been busted once already. So he has some issues with poor judgement, there's no doubt about that.

 

[Rack Em]

Anyone think he'll be back at Mizzou?

The same school that punished Gary Pinkel by suspending him for one week after he got a DWI????

I'll think DGB will get an award!

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[tko]

Last I checked, Missouri was in the SEC. Anything goes in the SEC, different rules.

 

[kmoose]

This charge is ridiculous.

Not sure how you can say it's ridiculous, when the charge(s) haven't even been announced yet.

 

[stlnd01]

Last I checked, Missouri was in the SEC. Anything goes in the SEC, different rules.

If he's charged, it's apparently school policy that he not play until the case is resolved, SEC or no. If convicted, he's kicked out (unclear if off the team or out of school, but in this case it's probably the same thing).

Green-Beckham family confident player won't be charged : Sports

Sounds like he was in a car with a felony-level amount of drugs, putting him under the sort of charges that they use to go after dealers, unlike his previous misdemeanor. But unless he's actually a drug dealer - which would be stupid - it's hard to imagine this gets all the way to a felony conviction.
Also: Didn't happen in Columbia but in Springfield, where presumably the university holds a bit less sway.

 

[Jebediah Springfield]

If he's charged, it's apparently school policy that he not play until the case is resolved, SEC or no. If convicted, he's kicked out (unclear if off the team or out of school, but in this case it's probably the same thing).

Green-Beckham family confident player won't be charged : Sports

Sounds like he was in a car with a felony-level amount of drugs, putting him under the sort of charges that they use to go after dealers, unlike his previous misdemeanor. But unless he's actually a drug dealer - which would be stupid - it's hard to imagine this gets all the way to a felony conviction.
Also: Didn't happen in Columbia but in Springfield, where presumably the university holds a bit less sway.

They found a lb of weed in the car and one of the other 2 people in the car is going to get in trouble.


Sidenote: Missouri has some pretty fucked laws regarding marijuana.

 

[Irish Insanity]

Only 1 LB?

 

[Rhode Irish]

On their way back from Colorado, I assume?

 

[Irishnuke]

I love the "it's just weed" arguments. It's also "just illegal." Whether or not you agree with the law, it's the fucking law.

 

[Cackalacky]

Knucklehead.....

 

[Buster Bluth]

Sidenote: America and most of the world, because of America, has some pretty fucked laws regarding marijuana.

FIFY

 

[Buster Bluth]

The same school that punished Gary Pinkel by suspending him for one week after he got a DWI????

I'll think DGB will get an award!

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I know the Pinkels through a close friend, they are top notch people. Everyone makes mistakes.

 

[Jebediah Springfield]

FIFY

Tim = Uruguay

 

[GreenSox04]

I gushed over this kid when he was a recruit. Get it together man.

 

[mgriff]

I love the "it's just weed" arguments. It's also "just illegal." Whether or not you agree with the law, it's the fucking law.

An unjust law is no law at all.

Needs to be controlled. Kids shouldn't be able to use because it could have implications on their development. It's a victimless crime at the moment for no good reason. It's unfair and unjust. I don't recommend using but if someone can smoke cigarettes and alcohol recreationally, and doctors can prescribe drugs that kill far more people a year than marijuana, it's incredibly unjust to punish people for using it and ruining their lives.

 

[wizards8507]

An unjust law is no law at all.

Good thinking. Mind if I quote you on my tax return?

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[Irishnuke]

An unjust law is no law at all.

Needs to be controlled. Kids shouldn't be able to use because it could have implications on their development. It's a victimless crime at the moment for no good reason. It's unfair and unjust. I don't recommend using but if someone can smoke cigarettes and alcohol recreationally, and doctors can prescribe drugs that kill far more people a year than marijuana, it's incredibly unjust to punish people for using it and ruining their lives.

The people that choose to do it knowing it's illegal have nobody to blame but themselves when they get in trouble.

 

[wizards8507]

An unjust law is no law at all.

Needs to be controlled. Kids shouldn't be able to use because it could have implications on their development. It's a victimless crime at the moment for no good reason. It's unfair and unjust. I don't recommend using but if someone can smoke cigarettes and alcohol recreationally, and doctors can prescribe drugs that kill far more people a year than marijuana, it's incredibly unjust to punish people for using it and ruining their lives.

I'm a libertarian. I believe grown adults should be allowed to poison themselves however they see fit. I also think taxes fundamentally violate natural property rights, but I still pay them. It's not about what ought be legal, it's about doing what the guys with more guns say because they'll lock you up if you don't comply.

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[mgriff]

Good thinking. Mind if I quote you on my tax return?

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Are we talking about taxes or pot? I think it's ludicrous that pot is demonized. It's a drug, just like others, has negative implications, but it also has medicinal value, most notably for PTSD. It's something that needs to be talked about and changed, because when non-violent offenders are locked up for things like marijuana, it creates violent offenders. If you smoke pot I can't fathom locking you up unless you're operating a vehicle, giving it to children, etc.

It's not the only thing that needs to be discussed; the Stuebenville hacker who exposed the rapists is looking at more time than the actual racists. There are issues that need to be evaluated, debated, and resolved as times go on, marijuana and some mandatory sentencing being two on a long list. I'm not saying I have all the answers, I'm simply saying how I feel. I think we need to evolve through meaningful dialogue and an open review process.

I'm sure your one line of wit will be extremely helpful while ignoring everything else I said.

 

[wizards8507]

Are we talking about taxes or pot? I think it's ludicrous that pot is demonized. It's a drug, just like others, has negative implications, but it also has medicinal value, most notably for PTSD. It's something that needs to be talked about and changed, because when non-violent offenders are locked up for things like marijuana, it creates violent offenders. If you smoke pot I can't fathom locking you up unless you're operating a vehicle, giving it to children, etc.

It's not the only thing that needs to be discussed; the Stuebenville hacker who exposed the rapists is looking at more time than the actual racists. There are issues that need to be evaluated, debated, and resolved as times go on, marijuana and some mandatory sentencing being two on a long list. I'm not saying I have all the answers, I'm simply saying how I feel. I think we need to evolve through meaningful dialogue and an open review process.

I'm sure your one line of wit will be extremely helpful while ignoring everything else I said.

I AGREE that drugs should be legal. Fight to change the law, but OBEY the law so long as it is one.

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[mgriff]

The people that choose to do it knowing it's illegal have nobody to blame but themselves when they get in trouble.

You're absolutely correct. However, I still think it's unjust for reasons stated above. We need some discussion and research done but that is nigh impossible today with the money going for one side or the other on any sort of national issue.

 

[mgriff]

I AGREE that drugs should be legal. Fight to change the law, but OBEY the law so long as it is one.

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Not nearly as bright as you, my friend. That much is apparent.

 

[chubler]

I personally think we need a lot more research before committing to taking a final legal stance on weed. We've got a plethora of uninformed opinion, hearsay, fear-mongering and misinformation on both sides, and not much else.

I'm personally fairly conflicted over it. Medicinal properties? Yes, but in a similarly limited fashion to natural opioids, and I don't think a whole lot of people want heroin legalized. On the other hand, we have fairly good evidence that it's less addictive than both alcohol and nicotine, and the intoxicating and detrimental health effects seem to be comparable to either or both of those two legal drugs. It's a toss up.

As far as this specific case goes, though, you have got to be so, so stupid to get into a car that has anywhere near that much controlled substance in it. Be it marijuana, cocaine, or prescription pills, you deserve what you get in 99% of the situations where you set foot in that car. Hope he can pull himself together, he's got the talent to be great.

 

[Kak7304]

I personally think we need a lot more research before committing to taking a final legal stance on weed. We've got a plethora of uninformed opinion, hearsay, fear-mongering and misinformation on both sides, and not much else.

I'm personally fairly conflicted over it. Medicinal properties? Yes, but in a similarly limited fashion to natural opioids, and I don't think a whole lot of people want heroin legalized. On the other hand, we have fairly good evidence that it's less addictive than both alcohol and nicotine, and the intoxicating and detrimental health effects seem to be comparable to either or both of those two legal drugs. It's a toss up.

As far as this specific case goes, though, you have got to be so, so stupid to get into a car that has anywhere near that much controlled substance in it. Be it marijuana, cocaine, or prescription pills, you deserve what you get in 99% of the situations where you set foot in that car. Hope he can pull himself together, he's got the talent to be great.

Comparing apples to oranges when talking about marijuana and heroin and the receptors they work on and how they work in the body.

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

Speeding is illegal too but you don't get a felony charge for doing it. The fact that DGB could have 5.5 grams and go to prison is absurd.

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

Comparing weed to stuff like pills or cocaine is beyond apples and oranges. Both are so much more harmful in both the long and short term. It is almost offensive to people who struggle with addiction to compare them. Marijuana is illegal because of the logging industry and no other good reason. He should not have been smoking, but Clowney should not have been speeding. Speeding is more dangerous than smoking marijuana.

 

[Buster Bluth]

Comparing weed to stuff like pills or cocaine is beyond apples and oranges. Both are so much more harmful in both the long and short term.

Not all pills. Ecstasy, from what I've read, is about as dangerous as riding a horse.

5.5g is like what, 1/5 of an ounce? Jesus Christ.. I'm legitimately agree that there is even a chance he goes to jail.

 

[chubler]

Sorry about that, I meant to compare marijuana to opioids purely in the sense that their therapeutic use is extremely limited, and both are "medications" of last resort. Painkillers are now prescribed as infrequently as possible due to their many complications, but they're still a hell of a lot more useful than medical marijuana. There's almost always a better drug for the job. Neither fixes much of anything, except relieving pain or anxiety by altering the patient's state of consciousness.

Not all pills. Ecstasy, from what I've read, is about as dangerous as riding a horse.

5.5g is like what, 1/5 of an ounce? Jesus Christ.. I'm legitimately agree that there is even a chance he goes to jail.

Can't blame you here because the literature on MDMA is extremely sparse, but I fear you've been looking in the wrong places. Apart from the debatable level of neurotoxicity, it causes well-documented, significant imbalances in neurotransmitter levels for almost a week after use. I'm not well informed or well trained enough to tell you exactly what is going on, but I can tell you that a lack of serotonin so severe that it gives rise to the phrase "suicide Tuesday" is bad, bad news. That said, riding a horse is probably significantly more dangerous than I give it credit for so live your life, but I wouldn't recommend messing with your brain chemistry. That's just asking for trouble no matter how well or poorly we understand what's going on.

As for 5.5 grams, jail sounds a little preposterous to me, even with a previous offense. If he's not a dealer, the cops need to get off their high horse and get to work on the drugs that destroy lives.