'11 CA ATH George Atkinson III (Signed Notre Dame LOI)

[Irish#1]

He had hands of stone.......I don't see WR as a viable option.

Disappointed in the decision and I hope he reconsiders but there seems to be a rift between ND and the Atkinson's.

So does Darius Heyward Bey, but he's still playing!

 

[Irish#1]

There must be more going on with GAIII than has been made public. When asked if George's suspension would affect his future and the decision he (George) is making, Kelly said he hasn't made that decision. Umm ... what. Is that to imply that George might not be invited back?

I'm with Lax. He was not suspended for texting.

If could mean that the suspension was just part of the process, but I agree that there has to be more to this.

 

[BMT]

This may sound crazy, but I wish we could redshirt CAM or GA111 next year, I think both are pretty productive then we would have 3 great backs for the next 2 years.

 

[Irishnuke]

Maybe there is more to this but until that info comes to light, maybe you guys can stop shitting all over this current Notre Dame football player. If something more comes out and it's bad, then shit away.

 

[SoJerseyIrish]

So does Darius Heyward Bey, but he's still playing!

One guy played WR in College.....one didn't.

 

[military_irish]

What I really don't like it starts the off season on a negative note. Ok, the Win starts it on a positive note.

But, thanks To BK and the NFL rumors here goes the negatives on our program. And then, more and more and more transfers. YOu know that other programs use this against us.

I hear people say that all schools have transfers. But, do they have as many as us? Does any other schools lose more 4 and 5 star players? I don't care the reason, transfers are transfers. Lynch, Neal, Prestwood, Eddie, Gunner, Fergy, Welch, Hendrix, on and and on. That is a lot.

I hope the studs that came here last year, and the ones that will come in this year will really help bring some positives. Right now we need that after the transfers/BK NFL rumors/Diaco Loss/and o OC too.

Ok, time to hear some good stuff. Go Irish

Since they have transferred or had lack of playing time (Welch, Hendrix) Notre Dame has went 21-5 and a trip to the National Championship. Not too bad, it's about the product on the field not the amount of players that transfer.

 

[BMT]

The overwhelming amount of players who transfer don't have great careers elsewhere, just sayin- see Lynch, Christ, Prestwood, EJ Banks........

 

[gkIrish]

The overwhelming amount of players who transfer don't have great careers elsewhere, just sayin- see Lynch, Christ, Prestwood, EJ Banks........

Amir Carlisle

 

[TheSunIsRising]

The overwhelming amount of players who transfer don't have great careers elsewhere, just sayin- see Lynch, Christ, Prestwood, EJ Banks........

I'd agree with the others, but the one in bold had a pretty good career:

-much of the world just finished celebrating His birthday
and,
-not only does he have multiple statues worldwide, but he has pretty good placement and view of the field of play at ND stadium. All those coaches that had statues built have to stand outside the stadium and can't watch the game

(I know who you meant)

 

[anarin]

I mean this in the best possible way:
Every time I read one of you posts I can't help but think of Gollum talking to himself.

I've started skipping his posts

 

[philipm31]

I am just being realistic. The kid is getting MAJORLY bad advice, and you know it stems from family and hangers-on, who actually think that GA3 is in the TOP ONE PERCENT of all the football players on the PLANET. He is not and if he leaves for the NFL early, he will be SORELY disappointed.

And say whatever you want about what I said, but the facts are very simple.

GA3 was not suspended for texting, it was for a much more egregious thing and the admin is trying to save face for him. The school obviously has been bending over backwards to help him on and off the field, and it finally just reached a boiling point.

If he and his brother want to come back and not see the field, because neither of them will barring injuries, then great. They will also graduate with their class and go on to be successful in something other than football, something that most NDFB are able to do because of their degree.

It just really sticks in my craw that they so casually throw away the idea that education is not that important.

Maybe it because I have seen how much of an impact it has throughout life and that is why I think the very idea that you would come this far and give it up so easily is just depressing.

I hope he talks to someone without an agenda to give him a true dose of the reality that he won't be an elite NFL player and he should just come back, finish his classes, get his degree and be part of possibly the winningest senior class in Irish Football history.

 

[Pachuco]

I am just being realistic. The kid is getting MAJORLY bad advice, and you know it stems from family and hangers-on, who actually think that GA3 is in the TOP ONE PERCENT of all the football players on the PLANET. He is not and if he leaves for the NFL early, he will be SORELY disappointed.

And say whatever you want about what I said, but the facts are very simple.

GA3 was not suspended for texting, it was for a much more egregious thing and the admin is trying to save face for him. The school obviously has been bending over backwards to help him on and off the field, and it finally just reached a boiling point.

If he and his brother want to come back and not see the field, because neither of them will barring injuries, then great. They will also graduate with their class and go on to be successful in something other than football, something that most NDFB are able to do because of their degree.

It just really sticks in my craw that they so casually throw away the idea that education is not that important.

Maybe it because I have seen how much of an impact it has throughout life and that is why I think the very idea that you would come this far and give it up so easily is just depressing.

I hope he talks to someone without an agenda to give him a true dose of the reality that he won't be an elite NFL player and he should just come back, finish his classes, get his degree and be part of possibly the winningest senior class in Irish Football history.

No, the fact is that you are still basing your judgments on speculation, and I'm not referring to the obvious fact that GAIII was suspended from the bowl game.

Everything that you said is all well and good about getting your education, and I agree that it would be a mistake to sacrifice that.

But calling GAIII terrible, his family dumb, on a decision that has not been officially declared is simply conjecture, and does not represent the perspective of every ND fan.

I suppose it's possible that the NFL/transfer rumors will be validated.

But if I were to entertain that as truth right now, then I would be speculating also.

 

[Kaneyoufeelit]

I am just being realistic. The kid is getting MAJORLY bad advice, and you know it stems from family and hangers-on, who actually think that GA3 is in the TOP ONE PERCENT of all the football players on the PLANET. He is not and if he leaves for the NFL early, he will be SORELY disappointed.

In 2010-11, George's senior year in high school, 1,133,377 boys played high school football. There are 120 FBS programs, the tops of amateur football players in the US, with 85 scholarship players on a team, or 10,200 kids.

ASSUMING, that every player in the FBS is of equal talent, or even less, that GA3 is the worst player in FBS, he is in the top 0.9% of amateur football players in the US.

Clearly, neither assumption is fair. Conservatively, let's say there are 1,150,000 football players in the world. To not be in the top 1% there would have to be 11,500 football players better than him. Come on now. GA3 is certainly in the top 1% of football players on the planet.

I agree that he isn't ready for the NFL but why are you trying so hard to insult him?

 

[BGIF]

In 2010-11, George's senior year in high school, 1,133,377 boys played high school football. There are 120 FBS programs, the tops of amateur football players in the US, with 85 scholarship players on a team, or 10,200 kids.

ASSUMING, that every player in the FBS is of equal talent, or even less, that GA3 is the worst player in FBS, he is in the top 0.9% of amateur football players in the US.

Clearly, neither assumption is fair. Conservatively, let's say there are 1,150,000 football players in the world. To not be in the top 1% there would have to be 11,500 football players better than him. Come on now. GA3 is certainly in the top 1% of football players on the planet.

I agree that he isn't ready for the NFL but why are you trying so hard to insult him?

BRAVO!

Don't you have some Professional Player that you can trash Philip to make yourself feel like a man?

 

[BGIF]

The overwhelming amount of players who transfer don't have great careers elsewhere, just sayin- see Lynch, Christ, Prestwood, EJ Banks........

Who is this Christ you speak off?

 

[Bogtrotter07]

The one that most people reading this thread referred to a while back.

 

[woolybug25]

The overwhelming amount of players who transfer don't have great careers elsewhere, just sayin- see Lynch, Christ, Prestwood, EJ Banks........

Lynch had a pretty solid year this season.

and Christ has been rippin' it up for years!

 

[Irish#1]

It's obvious that GAIII has the wheels to play in the NFL, but I don't think he's NFL ready in any other category. He'll get a shot with some team (draft or FA) simply because of his speed and return ability. I think he ends up on a practice squad where he'll get a year to prove he can learn to lower his level and run between the tackles. I just don't see him lasting longer than a year.

 

[ulukinatme]

Christ was an MVP!

 

[dublinirish]

i think GA3 will have a Michael Spurlock like career in the NFL, will bounce around but will be worth a TD on a KR every now and then

 

[connor_in]

The overwhelming amount of players who transfer don't have great careers elsewhere, just sayin- see Lynch, Christ, Prestwood, EJ Banks........

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[ThePiombino]

Christ was an MVJ!

FIFY

 

[Irish Insanity]

There must be more going on with GAIII than has been made public. When asked if George's suspension would affect his future and the decision he (George) is making, Kelly said he hasn't made that decision. Umm ... what. Is that to imply that George might not be invited back?

I'm with Lax. He was not suspended for texting.

Depends who the second 'he' is referring too. It could be read as GA III hasn't made his decision to stay or go pro yet, and the second 'he' is referring to GA III.

 

[philipm31]

BRAVO!

Don't you have some Professional Player that you can trash Philip to make yourself feel like a man?

You are kidding right?

The kid is not NFL ready, and he never will be.

But he is much more likely to be successful in life with a degree than just trying to eke out a year "career" as a KR/PR in the NFL.

And sorry, I meant the Top 1-2% of all college football players.

Of all the boys in America who play high school varsity football, less than 6 percent will go on to play at the college level, including those who go on to Division III schools were scholarships are not allowed. Of the precious few who do go on to play college football, only 1.8 percent will be drafted by the NFL. Bottom line? If your child is playing high school football, his chances of making it to the NFL are 0.08 percent.

Your Child’s Future in Sports: The Real Odds | iMOM

and again:

http://www.businessinsider.com/odds-college-athletes-become-professionals-2012-2?op=1



Here Are The Odds That Your Kid Becomes A Professional Athlete (Hint: They're Small)
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Even if your kid is good at sports in high school, gets a scholarship, and excels in college, there's almost no way they are going to go pro.
Scott Soshnick of Bloomberg tweeted a link today to the NCAA's official estimated probabilities that athletes in six major sports become professionals.

Only one sport (baseball) had more than 2% of NCAA players go pro.

These numbers are artificially low since they only count players who go pro in the US. But either way, the chances are really, really small.


Baseball: 11.6% of college players play professionally, 0.6% of high school players do
Baseball: 11.6% of college players play professionally, 0.6% of high school players do
AP Images
High school players: 471,025

College players: 31,264

Draftees: 806

Source: NCAA

Football: 1.7% of college players play professionally, 0.08% of high school players do
Football: 1.7% of college players play professionally, 0.08% of high school players do
Streeter Lecka/Getty Images
High school players: 1,108,441

College players: 67,887

Draftees: 255

Source: NCAA

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/odds-college-athletes-become-professionals-2012-2?op=1#ixzz2oyxpT1tV


Of course the likelihood of making it a career in the NFL is not that high, considering the average career is around 3-7 years, depending on whom you believe. However, I do not have to look far to find examples of much better college players failing to make it in the NFL. See Tim Tebow, Jamarcus Russell, and Matt Leinart for a few recent examples of an "elite" college player no longer playing in the NFL and all three were a FIRST ROUND pick (and 2 Heisman Trophy winners, as well), which GAIII will not be.

I just think that GAIII needs better advisers, so he can make the right decision about going pro, because there are almost never players who are drafted solely to be a KR when you can draft WR and RB to do the job, anyway, neither or which he has proven to be proficient at doing on a regular basis.

Do I wish him ill will? NO, but I do think he needs to sit down and REALLY investigate his odds of playing and succeeding for a decade in the NFL vs. a successful life outside of football when one has a degree from a place like ND.

 

[philipm31]

It's obvious that GAIII has the wheels to play in the NFL, but I don't think he's NFL ready in any other category. He'll get a shot with some team (draft or FA) simply because of his speed and return ability. I think he ends up on a practice squad where he'll get a year to prove he can learn to lower his level and run between the tackles. I just don't see him lasting longer than a year.

THIS.

1,000,000x THIS

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

People act like GAIII tried to burn down the Golden Dome and desecrated the Grotto or something. He wasn't even as bad as people go to say. I bet he makes an NFL roster if he decides to go pro. He's got a lot of natural talent that no one at Notre Dame could manifest into consistent performance on the field. The NFL has better coaches than we do, and I bet he could have a solid NFL career as a returner and 3rd running back.

 

[Irishman77]

So did he just go off the deep end when folston took over or what?

 

[tko]

So did he just go off the deep end when folston took over or what?

I can't wait to hear the real scoop.

 

[Emcee77]

Depends who the second 'he' is referring too. It could be read as GA III hasn't made his decision to stay or go pro yet, and the second 'he' is referring to GA III.

Sorry ... Kelly said, "I haven't made that decision."

 

[Irish#1]

You are kidding right?

The kid is not NFL ready, and he never will be.

But he is much more likely to be successful in life with a degree than just trying to eke out a year "career" as a KR/PR in the NFL.

And sorry, I meant the Top 1-2% of all college football players.

Of all the boys in America who play high school varsity football, less than 6 percent will go on to play at the college level, including those who go on to Division III schools were scholarships are not allowed. Of the precious few who do go on to play college football, only 1.8 percent will be drafted by the NFL. Bottom line? If your child is playing high school football, his chances of making it to the NFL are 0.08 percent.

Your Child’s Future in Sports: The Real Odds | iMOM

and again:

http://www.businessinsider.com/odds-college-athletes-become-professionals-2012-2?op=1



Here Are The Odds That Your Kid Becomes A Professional Athlete (Hint: They're Small)
TONY MANFRED
FEB. 10, 2012, 4:21 PM 161,629 5

inShare
EMAIL MORE

college soccer player
Wikimedia Commons

Even if your kid is good at sports in high school, gets a scholarship, and excels in college, there's almost no way they are going to go pro.
Scott Soshnick of Bloomberg tweeted a link today to the NCAA's official estimated probabilities that athletes in six major sports become professionals.

Only one sport (baseball) had more than 2% of NCAA players go pro.

These numbers are artificially low since they only count players who go pro in the US. But either way, the chances are really, really small.


Baseball: 11.6% of college players play professionally, 0.6% of high school players do
Baseball: 11.6% of college players play professionally, 0.6% of high school players do
AP Images
High school players: 471,025

College players: 31,264

Draftees: 806

Source: NCAA

Football: 1.7% of college players play professionally, 0.08% of high school players do
Football: 1.7% of college players play professionally, 0.08% of high school players do
Streeter Lecka/Getty Images
High school players: 1,108,441

College players: 67,887

Draftees: 255

Source: NCAA

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/odds-college-athletes-become-professionals-2012-2?op=1#ixzz2oyxpT1tV


Of course the likelihood of making it a career in the NFL is not that high, considering the average career is around 3-7 years, depending on whom you believe. However, I do not have to look far to find examples of much better college players failing to make it in the NFL. See Tim Tebow, Jamarcus Russell, and Matt Leinart for a few recent examples of an "elite" college player no longer playing in the NFL and all three were a FIRST ROUND pick (and 2 Heisman Trophy winners, as well), which GAIII will not be.

I just think that GAIII needs better advisers, so he can make the right decision about going pro, because there are almost never players who are drafted solely to be a KR when you can draft WR and RB to do the job, anyway, neither or which he has proven to be proficient at doing on a regular basis.

Do I wish him ill will? NO, but I do think he needs to sit down and REALLY investigate his odds of playing and succeeding for a decade in the NFL vs. a successful life outside of football when one has a degree from a place like ND.

Brian Bosworth, Ryan Lief, David Carr are a few more examples.

THIS.

1,000,000x THIS

What, no reps?

BTW.......I've not said one derogatory comment on GA and his suspension. I've only pointed out that he is not NFL ready.