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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en data-scribe-reduced-action-queue="><p>After practice, <a href="https://twitter.com/CoachBrianKelly">@CoachBrianKelly</a> talked with <a href="https://twitter.com/Giants">@Giants</a> head coach Tom Coughlin. <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23NDinNYC&src=hash">#NDinNYC</a> <a href="http://t.co/KeUiHaCKnc">pic.twitter.com/KeUiHaCKnc</a></p>— Notre Dame Football (@NDFootball) <a href="https://twitter.com/NDFootball/statuses/416316101815840768">December 26, 2013</a></blockquote>
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He just signed a new contract and I am sure there is a huge buyout in it. I put it a 1% chance he leaves. Just my opinion.
 

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He just signed a new contract and I am sure there is a huge buyout in it. I put it a 1% chance he leaves. Just my opinion.

I agree. Wouldn't have been much of an extension if he left 4 months later. Never say Never but this seems unlikely. Wouldn't hurt my feelings if Kelly would put this to bed quickly. He's not THAT busy.
 

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If Detriot really wants him, and Kelly really wants Detroit, then no buyout or contract is going to stop them. It's basically irrelevant.
 
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If Detriot really wants him, and Kelly really wants Detroit, then no buyout or contract is going to stop them. It's basically irrelevant.

Well the owner and GM are trying to ultimately maximized profits, covering a large buyout will definitely be a part of the equation.
 

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Well the owner and GM are trying to ultimately maximized profits, covering a large buyout will definitely be a part of the equation.

You would think, but they never dissuade NFL teams from getting the guy they otherwise think is right for the job.
 

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With all due respect to GITF, as he is just bringing along info that is publicly available, I find discussion of something like this at this current stage to be an exercise in futility.

There have been "rumors" since Eric Hansen talked about this Detroit interest in his chat last week. So? If you have a good coach, you should simply assume that there is always going to be interest from both pro and college programs all over the country in hiring him. They are always going to be sought after and always going to be on short lists.

What matters is whether they have reciprocal interest. There is absolutely nothing at this point to suggest Kelly has any reciprocal interest. And from what I've been told, I would highly doubt that there will be. Could Detroit offer him $10M/year and make it an offer he can't refuse? Sure... it could hypothetically happen... but the odds are really against it.

So right now all we're doing by discussing some hypothetical like this and thereby implicitly giving it credibility is:
1) Giving programs fodder for negative recruiting against us.
2) Causing unnecessary heartburn among the fan base.
3) Causing potential unnecessary panic/fires to put out for the coaches with the committed recruits.

Nothing good can happen. Should there be indications from the Kelly side of things that this is progressing towards a move... then by all means, it has got to be discussed. But right now I just roll my eyes at the "rumors" out there. Seems like a lot of people are just stoking the fire for a ratings/page hits bump over the next month.
 

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With all due respect to GITF, as he is just bringing along info that is publicly available, I find discussion of something like this at this current stage to be an exercise in futility.

There have been "rumors" since Eric Hansen talked about this Detroit interest in his chat last week. So? If you have a good coach, you should simply assume that there is always going to be interest from both pro and college programs all over the country in hiring him. They are always going to be sought after and always going to be on short lists.

What matters is whether they have reciprocal interest. There is absolutely nothing at this point to suggest Kelly has any reciprocal interest. And from what I've been told, I would highly doubt that there will be. Could Detroit offer him $10M/year and make it an offer he can't refuse? Sure... it could hypothetically happen... but the odds are really against it.

So right now all we're doing by discussing some hypothetical like this and thereby implicitly giving it credibility is:
1) Giving programs fodder for negative recruiting against us.
2) Causing unnecessary heartburn among the fan base.
3) Causing potential unnecessary panic/fires to put out for the coaches with the committed recruits.

Nothing good can happen. Should there be indications from the Kelly side of things that this is progressing towards a move... then by all means, it has got to be discussed. But right now I just roll my eyes at the "rumors" out there. Seems like a lot of people are just stoking the fire for a ratings/page hits bump over the next month.



Thanks for talking me off the ledge. I agree that there is only a small chance he leaves. Price that will be paid for success.
 

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With all due respect to GITF, as he is just bringing along info that is publicly available, I find discussion of something like this at this current stage to be an exercise in futility.

There have been "rumors" since Eric Hansen talked about this Detroit interest in his chat last week. So? If you have a good coach, you should simply assume that there is always going to be interest from both pro and college programs all over the country in hiring him. They are always going to be sought after and always going to be on short lists.

What matters is whether they have reciprocal interest. There is absolutely nothing at this point to suggest Kelly has any reciprocal interest. And from what I've been told, I would highly doubt that there will be. Could Detroit offer him $10M/year and make it an offer he can't refuse? Sure... it could hypothetically happen... but the odds are really against it.

So right now all we're doing by discussing some hypothetical like this and thereby implicitly giving it credibility is:
1) Giving programs fodder for negative recruiting against us.
2) Causing unnecessary heartburn among the fan base.
3) Causing potential unnecessary panic/fires to put out for the coaches with the committed recruits.

Nothing good can happen. Should there be indications from the Kelly side of things that this is progressing towards a move... then by all means, it has got to be discussed. But right now I just roll my eyes at the "rumors" out there. Seems like a lot of people are just stoking the fire for a ratings/page hits bump over the next month.

I agree, and really this getting fired back up again is just a result of people looking ahead to the end of Detroit's season and drudging up a story that first showed up in June. My post below is from June 6th.

According to PFT, Kelly's name is already being linked to the Detroit Lions. That site is also ludicrous in that they will literally report anything, whether it is well sourced or not. But the takeaway is that you will continue to hear his name attached to these jobs going forward.

I know there are reports that Detroit "reached out" to BK, but who the hell really knows who the source is for reports like that, their agenda, or the veracity of the information. I think ND fans should hold tight until there is an actual reason to worry, which there isn't yet.
 

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BK leaves and drafts Tuitt.
 

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Here's the deal: if you have a top notch college coach NFL teams are going to come courting. The alternative is to have a really crummy coach. I think Kelly has no interest in the NFL right now. Perhaps a national championship season and the right NFL offer would sway him, but I would be surprised if he seriously considers the Lions.
 

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Fucking son of a bitch. I'm a Lions fan, and love BK, but I love him where he's at. The Ford family won't pony up for a decent size buyout. Then again, doesn't O'brien have a 6 mil buyout.
 

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It'll be hard enough for the Ford Family to pony up the $12mill for Schwartz, plus a buyout for the next coach? Not likely.
 

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Its that time of year again where big time coaches get contacted. Detroit doing their due diligence and contacting big names. At least leaking it anyways. 0% chance BK leaves.
 

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Thanks for talking me off the ledge. I agree that there is only a small chance he leaves. Price that will be paid for success.

I should note that outside of the hyperbole about Detroit ponying up $10mil/year, it's entirely possible that they make an offer in the $7/year range or something like that which we cannot or will not meet. And of all the potential NFL jobs, it really seems like Detroit would be the most appealing to Kelly for a number of reasons.

None of us know what buyout clauses he has. None of us know what he is getting paid right now. What we do know is that ND is still paying the piper for Weis. We do know that Kelly is VERY high up the Detroit list (if not the #1 guy... as Rhode astutely pointed out, he was linked to them last year). They will surely come after him hard... and if he takes an interview, I expect him to be as good as gone then. I don't think he will "flirt" again and come back.

But from what I've been told from people in the athletic department and other dudes I trust, there is very little chance he leaves for an NFL job. I would strongly bet against him being the next coach of the Lions or any other NFL franchise for that matter. So until things move forward more, I'm going to sit tight and not worry.
 

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I am on the fire Schwartz wagon, as a fellow Lions fan are you?

Absolutely. But The Ford's will continue the ineptitude by keeping him on, atleast for another year to get the buyout down to $6mill.
 

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I should note that outside of the hyperbole about Detroit ponying up $10mil/year, it's entirely possible that they make an offer in the $7/year range or something like that which we cannot or will not meet. And of all the potential NFL jobs, it really seems like Detroit would be the most appealing to Kelly for a number of reasons.

None of us know what buyout clauses he has. None of us know what he is getting paid right now. What we do know is that ND is still paying the piper for Weis. We do know that Kelly is VERY high up the Detroit list (if not the #1 guy... as Rhode astutely pointed out, he was linked to them last year). They will surely come after him hard... and if he takes an interview, I expect him to be as good as gone then. I don't think he will "flirt" again and come back.

But from what I've been told from people in the athletic department and other dudes I trust, there is very little chance he leaves for an NFL job. I would strongly bet against him being the next coach of the Lions or any other NFL franchise for that matter. So until things move forward more, I'm going to sit tight and not worry.



Tks for the info
 
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If Kelly stops getting NFL interest it probably means our performance has fallen to a level where he might need to be replaced anyways.
 

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1. The Ford's have a history of being cheap so they will certainly look at the cost of a buyout for Schwartz and the new coach. The new coach won't pay his buyout, the Lions will. That's a pretty steep number for the Ford's when you add all three together.
2. Knowing JS, I can almost guarantee that he sat down with BK last year or earlier this year and discussed the NFL rumors that would come up once again. I feel pretty safe in saying he looked BK in the eye and asked for his commitment if JS committed to him.
3. All is well.
 

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1. The Ford's have a history of being cheap so they will certainly look at the cost of a buyout for Schwartz and the new coach. The new coach won't pay his buyout, the Lions will. That's a pretty steep number for the Ford's when you add all three together.
2. Knowing JS, I can almost guarantee that he sat down with BK last year or earlier this year and discussed the NFL rumors that would come up once again. I feel pretty safe in saying he looked BK in the eye and asked for his commitment if JS committed to him.
3. All is well.

only other thing i would add to this is with all the talent they have you need a proven hire the time is now. No need to gamble with a first time nfl coach.
 

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Love Smith and Jim Caldwell, amoung others, are both available and much better qualified than Brian Kelly. However, knowing the ineptitude of the Detroit management I suspect they will make Kelly an offer.
A college coach is successful because he is a very good to great recruiter with 17 and18 year old kids. A pro coach is successful only if he has a great quarterback in place.
 
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