BK: Field Turf is Coming

[wizards8507]

The guy who bumped this thread needs to take a lap. I read the first two pages thinking it was breaking news until I noticed the dates.

 

[dshans]

I say ND makes its own brand and screw em all!! Domer Duds

While I "get" the "sarcasm font," it's not a bad idea. American source the design, production, distribution, marketing and advertising; and you've got a deal.

Notre Dame is America's college football team, be it pro or anti. It could provide additional funding for heating campus buildings, academic scholarships and stadium fiddlings.

 

[Damion704]

The guy who bumped this thread needs to take a lap. I read the first two pages thinking it was breaking news until I noticed the dates.

That was me tough guy. Thanks for the advice.

 

[wizards8507]

That was me tough guy. Thanks for the advice.

Humor and tone of voice are lost on some people. I said "take a lap," I didn't insult your wife.

 

[dublinirish]

While I "get" the "sarcasm font," it's not a bad idea. American source the design, production, distribution, marketing and advertising; and you've got a deal.

Notre Dame is America's college football team, be it pro or anti. It could provide additional funding for heating campus buildings, academic scholarships and stadium fiddlings.

All those student managers who used to paint the helmets need something to do, let ND open its own sweatshop and get those kids sewing the merchandise together!

 

[Damion704]

Humor and tone of voice are lost on some people. I said "take a lap," I didn't insult your wife.

Cheers

 

[ThePiombino]

Humor and tone of voice are lost on some people. I said "take a lap," I didn't insult your wife.

And he said "thanks for the advice" and called you a tough guy. He didn't tell you to EAD and die.

 

[wizards8507]

And he said "thanks for the advice" and called you a tough guy. He didn't tell you to EAD and die.

But it's almost lunch time...

 

[aubeirish]

I was at Stanford last week-end and the jumbotron didn't bother me at all. It enhances the game if you ask me. All these changes seems to be for the best. Change is not always a bad thing.

 

[domerfreak]

Louis nix posted on facebook about half hour ago "nike or under armour #NDfanthoughts" not sure how to copy post without getting whole page.

 

[ndfi78]

The guy who bumped this thread needs to take a lap. I read the first two pages thinking it was breaking news until I noticed the dates.

Use the "Go to first new post" button.

 

[Cali_domer]

Louis nix posted on facebook about half hour ago "nike or under armour #NDfanthoughts" not sure how to copy post without getting whole page.

 

[calvegas04]

I say ND makes its own brand and screw em all!! Domer Duds

When ND can make a good looking "the shirt" then maybe just maybe

 

[connect the dots]

While I prefer natural vegetation, I do have an asphalt driveway and concrete sidewalks and steps. Time marches on.

Should the natural turf be removed, I imagine that big bucks could be made selling it. Who wouldn't want a tuft of ND stadium grass as a centerpiece on their dining room table?

My grandfather's ashes belong where they were spread, and not on your family's dining room table. Should a crass sale of the stadium's turf become a reality, certain liturgical requirements for possessing this sacred ground should be in place. One - the entire Office of the Dead should be recited on All Souls Day. Two - at meals, and after grace, the requiem aeternam pray should be said by all family members. The English version of the pray(Eternal rest, grant unto him O Lord) is acceptable, and all participants can expect to receive the appropriate plenary indulgences.

 

[calvegas04]

Not a fan of how nike makes their gear.... but they do make some badass stuff

 

[Irish#1]

Damnit! lol well played

Point being sometimes progress is good. I don't see the point in cutting off our nose to spite our face. If turf is what the program wants, then why not? As has been mentioned many times before, Lambeau Field was able to pull it off in a sensible manner.

We should also put a lid on the stadium. That way the weather will always be perfect and the crowd noise will be louder.

I just want to know when it became wrong to play an outdoor sport in less than ideal conditions?

 

[ThePiombino]

We should also put a lid on the stadium. That way the weather will always be perfect and the crowd noise will be louder.

I just want to know when it became wrong to play an outdoor sport in less than ideal conditions?

Yes, because that is clearly what I and everyone else in favor of field turf is asking for...

 

[wizards8507]

We should also put a lid on the stadium. That way the weather will always be perfect and the crowd noise will be louder.

I just want to know when it became wrong to play an outdoor sport in less than ideal conditions?

Be careful. You talk like that and they're going to banish you to NDNation.

But seriously, what's the difference? Everyone has a problem with mud, but wind, rain, snow, cold, and sun-in-your-eyes are all acceptable.

 

[wizards8507]

Yes, because that is clearly what I and everyone else in favor of field turf is asking for...

What's the difference? A grass field is less than perfect and that's what y'all object to. Rain and wind also create less-than-perfect conditions so why not eliminate those as well?

 

[dshans]

My grandfather's ashes belong where they were spread, and not on your family's dining room table. Should a crass sale of the stadium's turf become a reality, certain liturgical requirements for possessing this sacred ground should be in place. One - the entire Office of the Dead should be recited on All Souls Day. Two - at meals, and after grace, the requiem aeternam pray should be said by all family members. The English version of the pray(Eternal rest, grant unto him O Lord) is acceptable, and all participants can expect to receive the appropriate plenary indulgences.

A "Domini, Domini, et cetera wouldn't be out of liturgical bounds.

On the other hand, "Ashes to ashes, dust to dust." There is a cycle to life. While your grandfather may have been trodden on by Rudy, I would doubt that there's more than a trace left, what with all the rain, snow and other fertilizing over time.

Hell, I don't give it a second thought that some of my father's ashes, that were scattered in the ashes of his favorite restaurant in Winter Park, FL that burned to the ground shortly after his death, were quite possibly hauled to a landfill in the course of reconstruction. Part of him, and my mother and younger sister "reside" at the bottom of a lake in Orlando where we lived for many years.

I suppose one could say that they now "sleep with the fishes."

Dominus vobiscum.

 

[aubeirish]

I'll sing a "Dies Irae" for the traditionalists.

I would be down to sing the whole liturgy of the dead. I love latin masses.

 

[ulukinatme]

Grass in the northwest just isnt practical when there is a better product out there. If ND was a running a triple option attack, or a Stanford power run game, I would be more inclined to stick with the natural grass. But, Kelly is building a team that can play fast, and use their speed to their advantage. Some people say its the same surface, both teams play on it.....Look at the games ND played on turf. Arizona St was a team filled with speed and would give ND fits. ND arguably played faster that night. Michigan....they played fast.

I love it. I want that jumbotron too. A lil pre-game video showing the team walking down the steps slapping the sign LIVE...is only going to get that crowd fired up from the start.

Gotta wonder if this is part of the reason we played like crap at home last season too

 

[Rocket89]

What's the difference? A grass field is less than perfect and that's what y'all object to. Rain and wind also create less-than-perfect conditions so why not eliminate those as well?

Because some people are fine with dealing with the weather but not a sloppy field? They can be mutually exclusive arguments.

It's like wanting to give the players the best weight room and you turning and saying, "Well let's just give the players steroids then" because you oppose whatever new technology that weight room provides for the athletes.

Tarean Folston shouldn't have to slip while making cuts all game long because some dirt on his uniform gives you an erection.

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

KNUTE ROCKNE DIDN'T NEED NIKE TO WIN!

 

[ThePiombino]

My grandfather's ashes belong where they were spread, and not on your family's dining room table. Should a crass sale of the stadium's turf become a reality, certain liturgical requirements for possessing this sacred ground should be in place. One - the entire Office of the Dead should be recited on All Souls Day. Two - at meals, and after grace, the requiem aeternam pray should be said by all family members. The English version of the pray(Eternal rest, grant unto him O Lord) is acceptable, and all participants can expect to receive the appropriate plenary indulgences.

You realize the surface has been replaced tens of times over since then, right? Three times this year alone.

 

[dshans]

... because some dirt on his uniform gives you an erection.

What chew gots aginst dirt?

It be sexy.

It be lubricatin'.


Let's just play the whole thing out using obscenely large LCD screens, algorithms and keyboards. No one gets dirty and weather and field conditions are simply represented in binary code.

Football Big Bang Theory style.

 

[wizards8507]

Because some people are fine with dealing with the weather but not a sloppy field? They can be mutually exclusive arguments.

So it's okay for you to say "some people are fine with dealing with the weather" but when I say "some people are fine with dealing with the mud" you resort to juvenile attacks like below... Got it. I'm fine with disagreement but try to be just a little bit consistent.

Tarean Folston shouldn't have to slip while making cuts all game long because some dirt on his uniform gives you an erection.

 

[NDdomer2]

so many high schools now have turf that its possible some kids haven't played a game on grass since middle school.

 

[IrishLion]

But seriously, what's the difference? Everyone has a problem with mud, but wind, rain, snow, cold, and sun-in-your-eyes are all acceptable.

The difference is that the field conditions can at least somewhat be controlled with the addition of a more "sturdy" playing surface, and it isn't a complete hassle to do so.

The field surface is replaced constantly as it is, so it's not hard to substitue some type of artifical (even if its that 5% artificial stuff) turf in place of the grass they are constantly replacing.

Even if it rains/snows/windstorms etc., the playing surface will at least remain stable.

 

[wizards8507]

The difference is that the field conditions can at least somewhat be controlled with the addition of a more "sturdy" playing surface, and it isn't a complete hassle to do so.

But that's not really a difference between the turf argument and the reductio ad absurdum argument that we should just build a dome. Keeping rain off the field would improve conditions AT LEAST as much as an artificial surface would. May I ask why you're opposed to a dome? My guess is your answer is somewhere along the lines of aesthetics and/or tradition. That same argument applies to the grass. You might not think it outweighs the other considerations, but to dismiss the argument entirely requires you to also accept a dome to maintain intellectual consistency.

The field surface is replaced constantly as it is, so it's not hard to substitue some type of artifical (even if its that 5% artificial stuff) turf in place of the grass they are constantly replacing.

I'd be happy with the 5% artificial stuff. The problem is, BK said "FieldTurf". FieldTurf is a name brand and it's 100% artificial.

Even if it rains/snows/windstorms etc., the playing surface will at least remain stable.

That's the biggest misconception in this entire conversation. Artificial turf is still slippery in the rain and the snow, and can be even worse since you can't wear true cleats (depending on the specific type of surface used).