Chuck Martin accepts Miami OH job

[pumpdog20]

That dude has ruined Monday Night Football with his obnoxious, un-insightful, stating the obvious, exaggerated game calling.
If he ever coaches ND that will end my fanship.

Gruden would be a recruiting machine.

 

[stlnd01]

Gruden would be a recruiting machine.

Oh, come on.

 

[Buster Bluth]

I think Denbrock will more than likely be the OC. He was the passing game coordinator this season, that's the mindset Kelly is going to want in 2014.

Then its a matter of who is the new WR coach. Promote a GA or bring someone in?

 

[phgreek]

I think Denbrock will more than likely be the OC. He was the passing game coordinator this season, that's the mindset Kelly is going to want in 2014.

Then its a matter of who is the new WR coach. Promote a GA or bring someone in?

I have concerns about the WR coach slot. This coming year is important...many new faces...and the vets don't show me they can establish/maintain a culture. I'll be honest...we have DD as the only guy with a lot of game day PT. If he is to set the bar...I'm concerned. He is fast, elusive, he works hard...but there are still some holes in his craft...IMHO. I don't think he is always tuned in. I don't think he attacks the ball, nor shields it with his body very well, nor does he fight with a sense of urgency for heavily contested balls...so the setting of the bar and the culture needs to come from a coach...

I know Kelly is a promote from within kinda guy...but I'd look around...

 

[irishog77]

I think Denbrock will more than likely be the OC. He was the passing game coordinator this season, that's the mindset Kelly is going to want in 2014.

Then its a matter of who is the new WR coach. Promote a GA or bring someone in?

In that scenario, I'd hope Denbrock would remain the WR coach, and bring in a QB coach...or perhaps move Booker to WR's (and perhaps move Denbrock to TE coach?) and bring in a real ST coach.

 

[Emcee77]

I think Denbrock will more than likely be the OC. He was the passing game coordinator this season, that's the mindset Kelly is going to want in 2014.

Then its a matter of who is the new WR coach. Promote a GA or bring someone in?

You know who might make sense ... David Grimes. Former WR at ND, has several years of experience working within the football program ... it almost makes too much sense. Maybe too young still though.

 

[STLDomer]

IMO it should be:

HC - Kelly

OC - Denbrock
QB - Hire someone new
RB - Alford
WR - Denbrock
TE - Booker
OL - Hiestand

DC - Diaco
DL - Elston
LB - Diaco
CB - Cooks
S - Elliott

ST - Hire someone new

We need a real specialized QB coach as well as a ST coach

 

[irishknight35]

In that scenario, I'd hope Denbrock would remain the WR coach, and bring in a QB coach...or perhaps move Booker to WR's (and perhaps move Denbrock to TE coach?) and bring in a real ST coach.

Yes please!!! Tommy Rees! But seriously has ND maxed out the amount of coaches they are allowed to have on staff? Special teams has left a lot to be desired since Kelly was hired and the statistics prove that. Sadly a lot of special teams is just effort, flying down the field like 11 wild "tough gentlemen" and bringing down a ball carrier with authority doesn't require a ton of technique on punt and kickoff coverage.

There really has to be a complete culture change concerning special teams at ND. They should bring in a fiery individual who wants nothing but a players best effort and one that reflects a culture that it is an extreme privilege to be on special teams just as much as it is being starter on offense or defense. The way Kendall Moore crushed that Stanford returner last week on KO should be the norm not the exception. Mike Anello highlights should be run non-stop till players get the point. Shit just hire Mike Anello!!!!

 

[Irish.Ca]

I'd hire Ed O from USC as the OC. He can recruit and may be instrumental in landing some Cali kids this cycle. Well liked by staff and players and a big f/u to SC and Pat Hayden. I love it!

 

[Buster Bluth]

I'd hire Ed O from USC as the OC. He can recruit and may be instrumental in landing some Cali kids this cycle. Well liked by staff and players and a big f/u to SC and Pat Hayden. I love it!

...he's a DL coach.

 

[TIDROW40]

I think the OC job goes to either Alford or Denbrock. I think we should consider bringing in Kevin Johns from IU as the QB coach. IU lead the BIG 10 in passing last year and was ranked 17th nationally. He currently is their QB/WR coach and co OC.

 

[Irish8248]

IMO it should be:

HC - Kelly

OC - Denbrock
QB - Hire someone new
RB - Alford
WR - Denbrock
TE - Booker
OL - Hiestand

DC - Diaco
DL - Elston
LB - Diaco
CB - Cooks
S - Elliott

ST - Hire someone new

We need a real specialized QB coach as well as a ST coach

too many coaches in that scenario -- 11.7.2 Football Bowl Subdivision - There shall be a limit of one head coach, nine assistant coaches and two graduate assistant coaches who may be employed by an institution in bowl subdivision football.

 

[AvesEvo]

too many coaches in that scenario -- 11.7.2 Football Bowl Subdivision - There shall be a limit of one head coach, nine assistant coaches and two graduate assistant coaches who may be employed by an institution in bowl subdivision football.

What's next?! They limit the number of players we can have?!?!

 

[Irish.Ca]

How about that lane kiffin guy? I here he's great.

 

[Redbar]

too many coaches in that scenario -- 11.7.2 Football Bowl Subdivision - There shall be a limit of one head coach, nine assistant coaches and two graduate assistant coaches who may be employed by an institution in bowl subdivision football.

Unless you are Alabama and you have a whole team of coaches employed in "administrative" and "quality control" positions.

 

[dublinirish]

Saban has like 9 non-coach staff working on recruiting alone right? correct me if i am wrong somebody

 

[irishknight35]

Saban has like 9 non-coach staff working on recruiting alone right? correct me if i am wrong somebody

And this is one of those situations where I feel ND is missing out by not taking full advantage of the resources it could assemble and not necessarily a dirty or mischievous ploy to cheat the system. On a scale of 1 (Grossly inappropriate and demands NCAA attention) to 10 (perfect angels who would never even call a recruit without his grandmothers permission first) I would consider this to be about a 7 or 8. If it helps the coaches coach more then I'm all for having 9 non-coach staff working on recruiting.

Did coaches of ND past feel bad because they could recruit and sign classes to create rosters of 100 plus scholarship players? I highly doubt they lost sleep over having that much competition and that many more options to choose from to develop a starting line-up.

 

[Redbar]

It goes beyond recruiting. There are periods during the summer where coaches cannot organize activities, also there are 20 hour limits per week with regard to how much time the coaches can have organized activities, I am not sure if these limits apply to the support staff. I think I recall hearing that a former d line coach from FSU took one of Saban's "support" staff positions. So one can see how the benefits could be significant. Especially if you have a blank check with which you can pay these folks.

 

[dublinirish]

Saban's support staff big part of Alabama's process | TuscaloosaNews.com

according to this Saban has 24 non coaching personel.

 

[rikkitikki08]

I do see David Grimes getting promoted this season, kid deserves it

 

[NDohio]

I hope Chuck does well at Miami. The Cradle of Coaches needs to get back on track. It has been too many years of dreadful football in Oxford, OH.

Congrats CM and good luck.

 

[PANDFAN]

IMO it should be:

HC - Kelly

OC - Denbrock
QB - Hire someone new
RB - Alford
WR - Denbrock
TE - Booker
OL - Hiestand

DC - Diaco
DL - Elston
LB - Diaco
CB - Cooks
S - Elliott

ST - Hire someone new

We need a real specialized QB coach as well as a ST coach

PSU's linebacker coach is gone and i wouldn't mind scooping him up for linebackers IF we don't go after a qb coach

 

[Irish#1]

It goes beyond recruiting. There are periods during the summer where coaches cannot organize activities, also there are 20 hour limits per week with regard to how much time the coaches can have organized activities, I am not sure if these limits apply to the support staff. I think I recall hearing that a former d line coach from FSU took one of Saban's "support" staff positions. So one can see how the benefits could be significant. Especially if you have a blank check with which you can pay these folks.

True, but everyone finds a way to get around these limitations. Even if the coaches aren't allowed to be around the kids or coach them during these times, you can rest assured that a routine with specific instructions will be followed by the players.

 

[Cackalacky]

Saban's support staff big part of Alabama's process | TuscaloosaNews.com

according to this Saban has 24 non coaching personel.

This has to include the bagmen and local furniture men too.

 

[IrishBlood81]

Gosh do we need a ST coach. It is one of our weakest areas right now and its painful to watch such pathetic ST play.

 

[phgreek]

You know who might make sense ... David Grimes. Former WR at ND, has several years of experience working within the football program ... it almost makes too much sense. Maybe too young still though.

just play the Stanford reception on endless loop...with the caption, "Nothing Less is acceptable"

 

[PANDFAN]

outside of someone w/ a creative scheme, a special teams coach isn't going to do much outside of coverage....

have these guys ever been a punter or kicker?? --most of the times no

it has to do w/ execution so this is why unless you have someone in the business that has proven to be an excellent special teams coach(va tech comes to mind--although not lately) it isn't worth a specific coach

 

[rtrn2glory]

i'm not sure the reasoning behind it, but o'brien at penn st just let his QB coach Charlie Fischer go on monday. He coached Matt McGloin who i thought was pretty decent given his physical attritbutes and hackenburg who was just named freshman of the year in the big ten.

He might be a decent guy to go after unless he's getting head coaching interest.

 

[ab2cmiller]

outside of someone w/ a creative scheme, a special teams coach isn't going to do much outside of coverage....

have these guys ever been a punter or kicker?? --most of the times no

it has to do w/ execution so this is why unless you have someone in the business that has proven to be an excellent special teams coach(va tech comes to mind--although not lately) it isn't worth a specific coach

I found out how we can fix special teams and it only costs $19.96. I know what I'm getting BK for Christmas.
Amazon.com: Successful Football Coaching: Frank Beamer - Special Teams: Successful Coaching Football: Movies & TV

 

[PANDFAN]

i'm not sure the reasoning behind it, but o'brien at penn st just let his QB coach Charlie Fischer go on monday. He coached Matt McGloin who i thought was pretty decent given his physical attritbutes and hackenburg who was just named freshman of the year in the big ten.

He might be a decent guy to go after unless he's getting head coaching interest.

im going to go out on a limb and say o'brien isn't probably the easiest of guys to get along with...ur linebacking coach from 2000 and qb coach just up and leave....you wouldn't leave unless you got a job or just got tired of the bs from him