pkt77242
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I think you are forgetting the 3-4 times they tried to do that and he dropped the ball.
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I think you are forgetting the 3-4 times they tried to do that and he dropped the ball.
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I wouldn't trust Amir to handle a pitch let alone throw passes to him.
He has his share of drops but they haven't tried it nearly enough.
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Serious question -
If Golson is accepted back and enrolled in classes for January, and we make it to a January bowl against, say, Clemson. Does he suit up to be the back up QB? If we play ANY team that is half way decent and Tommy goes down, it's an automatic loss.
There's no way, even with only a week of practice, he could be as bad as Hendrix is.
If Golson is accepted back and enrolled in classes for January, and we make it to a January bowl against, say, Clemson. Does he suit up to be the back up QB? If we play ANY team that is half way decent and Tommy goes down, it's an automatic loss.
There's no way, even with only a week of practice, he could be as bad as Hendrix is.
Idk but that would make one hell of a story
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Is he even eligible at that point?
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My guess is that Golson is not going to play at all this season. But it is an interesting scenario.
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That's a great question but just for the sake of the situation I doubt BK would entertain that as an option.
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IDK why he wouldn't be. As long as he's enrolled, doesn't matter if classes have started right? True freshman are eligible to play on August 31st even though classes haven't started.
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He wouldn't be eligible.
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Great OLine work; Rees got threatened only a couple of times.
Robinson shows presence and instincts well beyond his years. He will be their best WR in two years.
I can't decide if Jaylon will be an All American next year or two years from now.
Great sidestep move by Folston on his 3rd quarter run. You cannot teach those moves, and I haven't seen that from an ND RB in a long time.
The near-blown call "pass incompletion" fumble by Jaylon would have been the worst call I've ever seen, no hyperbole. It was bad enough as it was, costing him a likely TD.
I think this team may be gelling. Win pretty easily vs Navy. Closer than expected win vs Pitt. Tough win, probably at best, vs. BYU. Have to play better than this or last week to beat Stanford.
Robinson shows presence and instincts well beyond his years. He will be their best WR in two years.
I can't decide if Jaylon will be an All American next year or two years from now.
Great sidestep move by Folston on his 3rd quarter run. You cannot teach those moves, and I haven't seen that from an ND RB in a long time.
The near-blown call "pass incompletion" fumble by Jaylon would have been the worst call I've ever seen, no hyperbole. It was bad enough as it was, costing him a likely TD.
I think this team may be gelling. Win pretty easily vs Navy. Closer than expected win vs Pitt. Tough win, probably at best, vs. BYU. Have to play better than this or last week to beat Stanford.
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Why not?
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Because the NCAA says so. Look it up.
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koonja
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Do you have a link? I'm not sure how to phrase this one for google.
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Thx for the explanation
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Funny, but I think you actually have no idea what you're talking about.
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lol, okay. It's common sense that he would not be eligible. Prove me wrong.
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koonja
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How's it common sense? He'll be enrolled in classes for the fall semester.
Freshman (before they ever attend a class) play in games which they're eligible for simply because they're enrolled in upcoming classes.
If I could prove you wrong, I wouldn't have asked the question, but what are you basing your opinion on?
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Im feeling like you are wrong. I just read the becoming eligible section of the ncaa book. Got nothing from it to support you're theory.
It should be intuitively obvious even to the most casual observer.
To play in a bowl game you have to have been in school for the football season and be academically eligible based on that semester.
He wasn't enrolled in any school much less at ND. So he can't be eligible.
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But Football is considered a fall sport so you have to be enrolled in a fall semester to play. Otherwise EE's could play in bowl games. Same thing with baseball. It is a spring sport so if you are not enrolled in the Spring semester you can not play in the College WS which is after the semester ends, so by your reasoning fall enrollees could play in it. The only major sport that works the way you are talking about is basketball because it covers both semesters.
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I've never seen that rule. I'm not saying you're wrong, but where did you read that?
And there's nothing obvious about it. This is unprecedented as far as I know.
pkt77242
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Unprecedented? EE's would be in the same boat. I thought I was drunk. Damn.
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Proof.
Student-Athlete Reinstatement
The term “student-athlete reinstatement” describes the process used to restore the eligibility of a student-athlete involved in an NCAA rules violation.
If an institution determines that a student-athlete was involved in a violation that affects eligibility, it must declare that student-athlete ineligible. At that point, the institution must investigate, gather facts and submit a reinstatement request to the NCAA national office staff.
During the reinstatement process, specially trained NCAA staff members review each case on its own merits and facts. The staff members then provide an initial decision based on guidelines established by the Division I NCAA Committee on Student-Athlete Reinstatement. Those guidelines include the nature and seriousness of the violation, any impermissible benefits received and the student-athlete’s level of responsibility. Staff also considers any relevant case precedent and whatever mitigating factors the university presents.
Reinstatement decisions are independent of the NCAA enforcement process and typically are made once the facts of the student-athlete’s involvement are determined. Most cases are resolved quickly. In fact, many likely conclude before an investigation closes.
The decision can be reinstatement, reinstatement with conditions, or denial.
If the institution disagrees with the NCAA staff’s decision, it can appeal to the Committee on Student-Athlete Reinstatement for the applicable division. Those Divisions I and II groups are composed of representatives from NCAA member institutions and conferences. They can reduce or remove the conditions the staff has imposed, but they cannot increase them.
Looks to me like he could be eligible. Not great odds but not "common sense" by any means
Student-Athlete Reinstatement
The term “student-athlete reinstatement” describes the process used to restore the eligibility of a student-athlete involved in an NCAA rules violation.
If an institution determines that a student-athlete was involved in a violation that affects eligibility, it must declare that student-athlete ineligible. At that point, the institution must investigate, gather facts and submit a reinstatement request to the NCAA national office staff.
During the reinstatement process, specially trained NCAA staff members review each case on its own merits and facts. The staff members then provide an initial decision based on guidelines established by the Division I NCAA Committee on Student-Athlete Reinstatement. Those guidelines include the nature and seriousness of the violation, any impermissible benefits received and the student-athlete’s level of responsibility. Staff also considers any relevant case precedent and whatever mitigating factors the university presents.
Reinstatement decisions are independent of the NCAA enforcement process and typically are made once the facts of the student-athlete’s involvement are determined. Most cases are resolved quickly. In fact, many likely conclude before an investigation closes.
The decision can be reinstatement, reinstatement with conditions, or denial.
If the institution disagrees with the NCAA staff’s decision, it can appeal to the Committee on Student-Athlete Reinstatement for the applicable division. Those Divisions I and II groups are composed of representatives from NCAA member institutions and conferences. They can reduce or remove the conditions the staff has imposed, but they cannot increase them.
Looks to me like he could be eligible. Not great odds but not "common sense" by any means
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koonja
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Don't you think it's possible EE's have a special provision that would protect them from this? Maybe it's as simple as you've stated, maybe there's a rule. That's what all those decimals are for in the rule book.
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ND may have suspended him for the semester, but the intent was obviously to suspend him for the football season. If you think he will be allowed to play by ND, even if the NCAA rules allow it, you are sorely mistaken. It would completely defeat the purpose of the disciplinary action.
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Not to be a dick but EG wasn't involved in a NCAA rules violation. He was involved in University of ND rules violation. Very different. Feel free to try again.
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He was kicked out for academics. Academics suspends you from academics, not football schedules.
Somewhere in the past 6 to 10 years the SEC was found to have a half dozen players from several member schools with 0.0 GPAs for the FALL SEMESTER. The rules were changed that athletes that aren't academically eligible can't play in bowl games.
And if you wish to argue that January is a new "year", not so. Bowl are considered part of the season that ended in December. Otherwise someone like Tommy Rees would playing after his 4 years of eligibility were used up since he's played every Fall Season since he was an incoming freshman. 2010
And if you wish to argue that January is a new "year", not so. Bowl are considered part of the season that ended in December. Otherwise someone like Tommy Rees would playing after his 4 years of eligibility were used up since he's played every Fall Season since he was an incoming freshman. 2010