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I disagree lol. That's straight-up coach speak, and I hate that. I'd rather the question not be asked than to hear a generic answer that is just going to start the speculation all over again.

It is, but if BK thinks a transfer is likely, I think that's a perfect answer (and I hate coach speak too. But if it was asked it's about saving face).

My point wasn't how BK would respond, because knowing him it would be very much like what the jerboski said. It was the fact that the question is NOT being asked, while asking about non-USC game topics is clearly fair game. Leading me to believe the press has been warned not to ask Bryant related QUs. That's my only point.
 
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I know some of you have been interested in this in recent weeks, so I'll post Kelly's complete answer below. He did a nice job explaining today how Notre Dame's defensive backs are coached to play a receiver when the ball is in the air.

Basically, if a DB is running hip to hip with his receiver they want the DB to turn and find the ball to make a play. If the receiver is a step out in front they want them to keep running and "rake the basket," which means rip their arm between the receiver's arms to try to knock the ball loose as it lands.

Kelly said he thought the secondary was much improved from the start of the season in that department.

He also made some interesting comments about defending back-shoulder throws -- a growing weapon for almost every good offense in college and pro football in the past few years. He said the best shot defenses have to stop those plays is to recognize tendencies and formations before the snap and prepare for that type of a throw.
"In phase, out of phase. In phase, hip to hip, turn, and play the ball. So if you're in phase, hip to hip with the receiver, turn and play the ball. Out of phase, don't turn and rake through the basket. We call the basket where the hands for the receiver are in a position. So it's an in phase, out of phase technique discussion as it relates to playing the ball. Don't put the hands up. Don't faceguard. If you're not in phase, you're trying to get the strip and rip through and dislodge the football."
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So we have been hating on our CBs for nothing...lol. Now its going to be..."Why don't they rake the f'ing basket!!!!"
 

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It is, but if BK thinks a transfer is likely, I think that's a perfect answer (and I hate coach speak too. But if it was asked it's about saving face).

My point wasn't how BK would respond, because knowing him it would be very much like what the jerboski said. It was the fact that the question is NOT being asked (while asking about non-USC game topics is clearly fair game), which leads me to believe the press has been warned not to ask Bryant related QUs. That's my only point.

I get that, but maybe you're reading too much into it. You seem to assume this is a "bad" thing. Perhaps they've been told not to ask simply because there is nothing else for BK to say about it? Greg is rehabbing an injury and the plan is to redshirt him.
 

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F#CK USC
F#CK Michigan
That is all
 

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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Kelly said that Michael Deeb will take some reps in practice, but he's behind Dan Fox and Joe Schmidt. "We'd like not to have to play him."</p>— Irish Illustrated (@NDatRivals) <a href="https://twitter.com/NDatRivals/statuses/390147980801486848">October 15, 2013</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>BK - if there's a need at MIKE LB for Michael Deeb he'll play. We think we are set there without him though barring injury.</p>— Irish Sports Daily (@ISDUpdate) <a href="https://twitter.com/ISDUpdate/statuses/390148126838755328">October 15, 2013</a></blockquote>
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fox/carlo----then schmidt/moore/......................deeb


Thanks, I just thought it was strange he didn't mention him over a walk-on. Moore has always struck me as a more athletic Carlo: big-hitting run-stuffer who may be a liability in pass coverage.

I agree, it is strange. The other thing that might be playing into it is that Moore might not be able to make the calls, as the MIKE has to do. As PANDA noted, Kelly has said in the past that Moore has more than enough athletic ability to get on the field; it's the mental aspect of the position that's holding him back. "He runs and hits; he just doesn't hit the right guy" or something along those lines. It sounded from the updates like Carlo and Moore are the WILLs and Fox, Schmidt and Deeb are the possible MIKES (I didn't get to listen to the presser, so please correct me if I misunderstood). I'm guessing that Carlo and Moore are pegged as WILLs because they aren't great at making calls, but Schmidt and Deeb are pretty good at it. Just a guess.
 
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I get that, but maybe you're reading too much into it. You seem to assume this is a "bad" thing. Perhaps they've been told not to ask simply because there is nothing else for BK to say about it? Greg is rehabbing an injury and the plan is to redshirt him.

I hope you're right!
 
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I agree, it is strange. The other thing that might be playing into it is that Moore might not be able to make the calls, as the MIKE has to do. As PANDA noted, Kelly has said in the past that Moore has more than enough athletic ability to get on the field; it's the mental aspect of the position that's holding him back. "He runs and hits; he just doesn't hit the right guy" or something along those lines. It sounded from the updates like Carlo and Moore are the WILLs and Fox, Schmidt and Deeb are the possible MIKES (I didn't get to listen to the presser, so please correct me if I misunderstood). I'm guessing that Carlo and Moore are pegged as WILLs because they aren't great at making calls, but Schmidt and Deeb are pretty good at it. Just a guess.
I think we will see what we saw against ASU. Lots of Carlo/Fox with Councell mixed in Okwara and Ishaq depending on situations. We also played a lot of nickle packages with Luke/Shumate and Farley/Collisnworth on the field at the same time.
 
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I agree, it is strange. The other thing that might be playing into it is that Moore might not be able to make the calls, as the MIKE has to do. As PANDA noted, Kelly has said in the past that Moore has more than enough athletic ability to get on the field; it's the mental aspect of the position that's holding him back. "He runs and hits; he just doesn't hit the right guy" or something along those lines. It sounded from the updates like Carlo and Moore are the WILLs and Fox, Schmidt and Deeb are the possible MIKES (I didn't get to listen to the presser, so please correct me if I misunderstood). I'm guessing that Carlo and Moore are pegged as WILLs because they aren't great at making calls, but Schmidt and Deeb are pretty good at it. Just a guess.

"Dan Fox and Joe Schmidt will be 1-2 at that (Mike linebacker) position," said Kelly. "It will be Carlo Calabrese and Kendall Moore at the Will linebacker position. Michael (Deeb) will be the swing guy at Mike if there's any need at that position."

"We'd like not to have to play him if we could," Kelly continued. "But if we have a situation there where a man goes down he's got to be ready to play, so we're preparing him to play and he's capable of playing."
 

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just basically an overview of today's presser

just basically an overview of today's presser

NOTRE DAME, Ind. - The bye week is over and the Notre Dame football team is back to work. After more than a week out of the view of the media, Brian Kelly was back at his podium on Tuesday as his Fighting Irish prepare to play USC. The Irish practiced for an hour on Monday to get back into the swing of things after going with a different approach during last week's bye.

"We used a balance of weight training, conditioning (and) a little bit of rest," Kelly said of last week's schedule. "(We) gave our young guys an opportunity to practice a little bit. Most of our veterans had a light week."

The bye week allowed players with bumps and bruises to rest and heal, but what is most important now is the game that is four days away. Southern Cal is coming to town and the Irish again have a chance to beat their oldest rival on their home field for the first time since 2001.

"I did not know that," Kelly said when asked whether he would convey to his team the last time an Irish squad beat the Trojans at Notre Dame Stadium. "I wasn't aware of the history of that."

While the particular history of wins and losses has not been a topic of discussion when it comes to USC, Kelly admits the undeniable nature of the rivalry from his squad's perspective. While most other teams see Notre Dame as one of the top rivals on their schedule each year, the Irish have a different rival at the top of their list.

"I think our players would be the first one to admit that this is our rivalry game," Kelly said of USC. "This is our game that we look forward to against USC. It's one that (is) on our calendar as - I don't want to say a red letter game - but one that we really look forward to. It's such a great matchup, great tradition, great history and it's part of the history of Notre Dame football."

Kelly has downplayed the rivalry in the past, saying his Irish needed to beat the Trojans more. Southern Cal has still won nine of the last 11 meetings dating back to 2002, but the Irish have taken two of the last three - with both wins coming in Los Angeles.

"We would hope that both programs are competing each and every year for BCS bowls and playoff opportunities," said Kelly. "I think that's where both programs want to be is that they're on equal footing - that you don't have to wait three or four years to get a win."

The biggest difference for USC this time around is a new head coach after Lane Kiffin was fired after the Trojans' loss to Arizona State. Ed Orgeron, a former Pete Carroll assistant and also the former Ole Miss head coach, has been promoted to interim head coach for the remainder of the season. USC took a few more shots downfield in last week's win over Arizona in his first game at the helm, but Kelly does not expect to see sweeping schematic changes this week.

"He's not going to go in there and scuttle the offense and special teams," Kelly said of Orgeron. "His personality is coming out in his football team, but he knows all of his players and there's an offensive coordinator and a defensive coordinator for a reason. There will be some slight variations and we'll have to be prepared for that, but they're going to be who they are 6-7 weeks into the season."

Injury Updates

The bye week gave a player like Sheldon Day the chance to rest even more. Day has not played since injuring his right ankle in the Sept. 14 win over Purdue, but Kelly says the defensive lineman will play this Saturday.

"Sheldon is a guy that doesn't stay blocked and he's a very good pass rusher," said Kelly. "He's a combination of a guy that early in the season was giving us great pressure as a pass rusher and wasn't staying blocked. He'll figure into our game plan on Saturday."

Wide receiver Daniel Smith and linebacker Jarrett Grace both had successful surgeries after suffering season-ending injuries in the win over Arizona State. Smith had a plate and screws inserted into his ankle. He was seen driving to the Gug on a motorized cart after Kelly's press conference.

Running back Tarean Folston suffered a slight hamstring injury at the end of his 36-yard run against Oklahoma according to Kelly. Folston played only sparingly and had no carries against Arizona State as a result, but Kelly expects him to be "part of the mix" at running back this weekend.

Freshman linebacker Doug Randolph and safety Nick Baratti are both recovering after having shoulder surgeries in August. Kelly says freshman receiver Torii Hunter, Jr., who broke his leg prior to arriving at Notre Dame, has practiced well lately. Kelly thinks Hunter would be in the mix at receiver if not for the injury, but he will not play this year.

Defensive lineman Tony Springmann had an infection after having season-ending knee surgery during training camp, but Kelly says he is doing better now. Another defensive lineman, Chase Hounshell, is apparently closer to seeing practice time soon. Hounshell had a second shoulder surgery last spring, but Kelly says he hopes to have pads on the junior within the next two weeks.

Inside Linebacker

The ranks are thinner in the middle with Grace lost for the season with his broken leg. Freshman Michael Deeb could eventually see some playing time at one of the two inside spots, but Kelly really does not want to have to play him unless absolutely necessary.

"Dan Fox and Joe Schmidt will be 1-2 at that (Mike linebacker) position," said Kelly. "It will be Carlo Calabrese and Kendall Moore at the Will linebacker position. Michael (Deeb) will be the swing guy at Mike if there's any need at that position."

"We'd like not to have to play him if we could," Kelly continued. "But if we have a situation there where a man goes down he's got to be ready to play, so we're preparing him to play and he's capable of playing."

The overall numbers at inside linebacker are thin as the Irish move forward past this season, Fox and Calabrese will both graduate, leaving the now injured Grace as the most experienced returning inside linebacker next season. Kelly was asked about the possibility of reserve outside linebackers Romeo Okwara or Ben Councell possibly moving inside next year.

"They're going to be on the field, there's no question," Kelly responded. "Both of those guys are going to play a lot of football for us (but) where, I really couldn't say at this point. We really like both those guys."

"We've got plenty of guys that can play there," Kelly said. "There (are) lots. If you just look at the body types, we've got plenty of guys. Coach (Bob) Diaco, if he needs to, he's got plenty of guys that can play inside, even if they're not on the roster as Mike linebackers."

Dr. Lou

Former Irish head coach Lou Holtz is on campus this week. Holtz and the 1988 national championship football team will be at Friday's pep rally and will be honored during Saturday night's game. Kelly was asked if he will have time to speak with the ESPN commentator.

"I think the question is will he carve out time for me," Kelly joked. "Lou is extremely busy and I think you ask him if he's got time for you more than anything else. We are going to get a chance to spend a little bit of time."

Kelly will introduce Holtz to the crowd at Friday night's pep rally and Holtz will also speak during the festivities.
 

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I think we will see what we saw against ASU. Lots of Carlo/Fox with Grace mixed in Okwara and Ishaq depending on situations. We also played a lot of nickle packages with Luke/Shumate and Farley/Collisnworth on the field at the same time.

Hate to break it to you, buuuuut...
 

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This is the game that ND has lost for the better part of decades now... that game that comes when it seems ND is over a hump, against a team most think they should beat, right when you think ND is ready to roll... hell, even last year ND needed a miracle to winone of these games, PITT,...

I for one am frankly over the nailbiting BS and ready to see some ND players beat the **** out of SC, then take the song girls home for the night...

win.
 
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This is the game that ND has lost for the better part of decades now... that game that comes when it seems ND is over a hump, against a team most think they should beat, right when you think ND is ready to roll... hell, even last year ND needed a miracle to winone of these games, PITT,...

I for one and frankly over the nailbiting BS and ready to see some ND players beat the **** out of SC, then take the song girls home for the night...

win.

I support thee.
 
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I for one am frankly over the nailbiting BS and ready to see some ND players beat the **** out of SC, then take the song girls home for the night...

win.
This needs to be on a sign in the locker room.
 

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But my point is, any ND fan who's follows the team closely wants to know what's going on with Bryant, and that is not a stretch unless you're kidding yourself.

The point is that any ND fan who is following the team closely already knows what is going on with Greg Bryant. Kelly told us, two weeks ago, that Bryant has a severe case of patellar tendinitis, and that he will undergo plasma replacement on his knee. According to Kelly, two weeks ago; "He does not look like somebody that we're going to be able to play this year.".
 

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I for one am frankly over the nailbiting BS and ready to see some ND players beat the **** out of SC, then take the song girls home for the night...

Just to be clear:

You are ready to see some ND players beat the **** out of SC, and then those players take the song girls home for the night?

Or...

You are ready to see some ND players beat the **** out of SC, and then you take the song girls home for the night?
 

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Just to be clear:

You are ready to see some ND players beat the **** out of SC, and then those players take the song girls home for the night?

Or...

You are ready to see some ND players beat the **** out of SC, and then you take the song girls home for the night?

Option 2...
 

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Dude what do you expect Brian Kelly to say about Greg Bryant? He's still on the roster. His dad has already told Pete Sampson ya he's a little bummed out but he isn't going anywhere. Dude is probably homesick and bummed out he isn't playing. I'm sure everyone who doesn't play is bummed out. He obviously wasn't good enough to play through the first three games. Who cares how many stars he was. Once they get to Notre Dame there a college football player who need to prove it. He needs to remember he isn't in South Florida. I always wonder why the big three in Florida passed on him. South Carolina took David Williams over him. There are no rumblings expect for a couple posters and Dame Fans looney tune *** claiming this stuff. I hope Bryant stays and has a wonderful career. But don't expect Brian Kelly to address something that really doesn't need to be addressed. I'm sure Tony Alford has talked to Greg and his family many times about this. Let it play out bro.

Anybody know what's going on with Marqise Lee? Also Silas Reed? Injury wise.
 

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Nothing concrete, they just keep saying Lee "expects" to be back for ND.

Redd played last week against Arizona so he should be good to go for them.
 

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Just to be clear:

You are ready to see some ND players beat the **** out of SC, and then those players take the song girls home for the night?

Or...

You are ready to see some ND players beat the **** out of SC, and then you take the song girls home for the night?

honesty??? I would be solid with the song girls just going to bed if the first part happens...
 
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Dude what do you expect Brian Kelly to say about Greg Bryant? He's still on the roster. His dad has already told Pete Sampson ya he's a little bummed out but he isn't going anywhere. Dude is probably homesick and bummed out he isn't playing. I'm sure everyone who doesn't play is bummed out. He obviously wasn't good enough to play through the first three games. Who cares how many stars he was. Once they get to Notre Dame there a college football player who need to prove it. He needs to remember he isn't in South Florida. I always wonder why the big three in Florida passed on him. South Carolina took David Williams over him. There are no rumblings expect for a couple posters and Dame Fans looney tune *** claiming this stuff. I hope Bryant stays and has a wonderful career. But don't expect Brian Kelly to address something that really doesn't need to be addressed. I'm sure Tony Alford has talked to Greg and his family many times about this. Let it play out bro.

Anybody know what's going on with Marqise Lee? Also Silas Reed? Injury wise.

GregBryant Domer...?
 
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Article posted today:

"Various reports surrounding the Trojan beat had Lee doing some individual work at practice on Sunday, but did not participate in any team work. Orgeron gave an update on a fairly lengthy injured list on Sunday and had Lee among those questionable along with linebacker Morgan Breslin, fellow receiver Victor Blackwell and a handful of others."

I'd bet he plays.
 
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Hey you know what?

I had something interesting happen to me today. I got a phone call around two, and an old friend and ND Grad has two tickets for the SC Game for me. He said they were pretty good seats. I remember him saying something, but with the busy fall I have had, I forgot all about it!

I need to figure what the eff to do. One would be for sale because all of the people that I could bring that could pay their own way, would drive me nuts. (A few I know wouldn't or couldn't pay their way, but I am not feeling that strongly.)

I have to figure out last minute lodging and what to do with one ticket. PM me if you want to go. Suggestions on where to stay would be appreciated. I think I am on a losing boat for that one.

If you are coming from this direction, I will drive, or meet you there.
 

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Hey you know what?

I had something interesting happen to me today. I got a phone call around two, and an old friend and ND Grad has two tickets for the SC Game for me. He said they were pretty good seats. I remember him saying something, but with the busy fall I have had, I forgot all about it!

I need to figure what the eff to do. One would be for sale because all of the people that I could bring that could pay their own way, would drive me nuts. (A few I know wouldn't or couldn't pay their way, but I am not feeling that strongly.)

I have to figure out last minute lodging and what to do with one ticket. PM me if you want to go. Suggestions on where to stay would be appreciated. I think I am on a losing boat for that one.

If you are coming from this direction, I will drive, or meet you there.

Is T Town out of your way?
 
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Hey you know what?

I had something interesting happen to me today. I got a phone call around two, and an old friend and ND Grad has two tickets for the SC Game for me. He said they were pretty good seats. I remember him saying something, but with the busy fall I have had, I forgot all about it!

I need to figure what the eff to do. One would be for sale because all of the people that I could bring that could pay their own way, would drive me nuts. (A few I know wouldn't or couldn't pay their way, but I am not feeling that strongly.)

I have to figure out last minute lodging and what to do with one ticket. PM me if you want to go. Suggestions on where to stay would be appreciated. I think I am on a losing boat for that one.

If you are coming from this direction, I will drive, or meet you there.

Too tempting!
 
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Hey you know what?

I had something interesting happen to me today. I got a phone call around two, and an old friend and ND Grad has two tickets for the SC Game for me. He said they were pretty good seats. I remember him saying something, but with the busy fall I have had, I forgot all about it!

I need to figure what the eff to do. One would be for sale because all of the people that I could bring that could pay their own way, would drive me nuts. (A few I know wouldn't or couldn't pay their way, but I am not feeling that strongly.)

I have to figure out last minute lodging and what to do with one ticket. PM me if you want to go. Suggestions on where to stay would be appreciated. I think I am on a losing boat for that one.

If you are coming from this direction, I will drive, or meet you there.

I think I saw somewhere that NDinLA was looking for a ticket!
 
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Is T Town out of your way?

I live in T-Town. (Toledo has had that distinct nickname since the railroads took over for the canals). What town do you live in? Ha! Ha! Ha! Now all you have to do is figure how to get from Tuscaloosa!
 
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