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'11 SC QB Everett Golson (FSU transfer)
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You stopped bolding before 'with wheels'. Apparently you haven't seen the gazelle in action:
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So, the #4 QB last year was going to jump to #1? The guy that didn't want to compete? I don't think so. Gunner didn't have the chest for it.
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Golson was #4 his freshman year. Jumped to #1 last year.
Not to be a dick, but your argument has a million examples of why it doesn't make sense.
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It does suck that we have to go through this season based on the success that we had in 2012. Like we all know including Kelly, a QB like Rees would not be offered going forward. Like Kuehnja said, we will have some really athletic QBs for numerous years to come. You combine that with a stable of RBs, tall and fast WRs, strong and athletic TEs and this O line of madness, our future looks extremely promising offensively. The bigger issue may be defense and that looks more promising with this recruiting class. Stay positive my friends! 
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I don't think its that much of a stretch. He was #4 as a True Freshman. #1 is gone and #3 is only ahead of him based on time in the system.
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I dunno, I heard Malik Zaire was better than Kiel with practically no experience in the offense (or even any offense resembling what we run) and was going to already pass him up for #3 shortly after he stepped on campus. Apparently Kiel simply was just not that good.
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Golson also got benched a number of times last year, struggling a lot in the first half of the season. Comparing each as true freshmen I thought Golson looked better in his first year with the team in the few practices I saw, and played better in the Blue & Gold game if I recall (Comparing Freshman to Freshman years). Also, and more than anything, I was trying to make a point that the guy that didn't want to compete was not going to jump to #1 this year when you've got a guy like Tommy. The coaching staff and team obviously like him, and on top of the experience he got his first two years he got pretty decent time last year in spelling Golson. If Golson struggled for half a season to secure the position, no way a less mobile Kiel does better given the fact Tommy has a year more of experience than he already had last year. I think Kiel would have been #2, but only because Hendrix still seems to struggle for whatever reason.
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Fsu and Osu would argue that a little.
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I think Andrew fits this profile also.
I think most top programs would argue the point he made!
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I thought about this a bit too. I think it's good and bad, but more bad. For one, he's probably not running any of our plays while he's with the QB guru. As a result he's not getting that rhythm with the receivers. He's not facing live defenses each week, which is probably the big thing. If he's practicing against air, then he's not feeling pressure or having to read a defense. On the plus side he's going to stay in shape probably, and he'll get to work on some mechanics which could improve accuracy, distance, ball control, etc. I expect his fundamentals to be very good next year, but I expect there will also be some rust when he faces live defenses.
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Golsons up 10lbs, cut body fat, runs a faster 40.
His footwork was horrible and thats getting cleaned up. I do believe they are also working on his throwing motion.
It hurts his development that he isnt playing live ball this fall...but I do not think it will be as big as some make it out to be. Golson being able to focus on football, work on weaknesses 110%, and study film will pay off. Granted we all wish he was in the Blue and Gold right now, but hes putting in work and theres no sense of him not being ahead of where he was when he left.
His footwork was horrible and thats getting cleaned up. I do believe they are also working on his throwing motion.
It hurts his development that he isnt playing live ball this fall...but I do not think it will be as big as some make it out to be. Golson being able to focus on football, work on weaknesses 110%, and study film will pay off. Granted we all wish he was in the Blue and Gold right now, but hes putting in work and theres no sense of him not being ahead of where he was when he left.
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Did you mean it the way you typed it or did you mean "theres no sense of him not being ahead"
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Golson is essentially experiencing a semester in the SEC. No school work, work on football all semester long. I think he's going to come back a monster, not to mention a huge chip on his shoulder.
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If Golson were injured this year, he'd be around the team, practices, film sessions, and meetings. But he'd have no physical activity. So it would be bad overall, but the silver lining is that he'd still be "learning."
His case is the opposite. He's getting activity...but none of the other stuff. So it's still bad, but there's still a silver lining.
I think to wonder if he'll be better next year would be like wondering if he'd be better next year, had he, say, broken his left arm or something like that.
His case is the opposite. He's getting activity...but none of the other stuff. So it's still bad, but there's still a silver lining.
I think to wonder if he'll be better next year would be like wondering if he'd be better next year, had he, say, broken his left arm or something like that.
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He'll have spring camp and fall camp to get back into the swing of things. I think its plenty of time to get ready for the season from an X's and O's standpoint. In fact, he goes over tape with White, thats part of the training. Film study.
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No reason for the bickering. Ease up fellas.
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I think Golson will be fine once he gets back.
Of course you would love for him to be here this year, improving on the field, with the team, with the coaching staff, building chemistry with the WRs, etc.
However, I think that going through offseason conditioning and then spring football with the team will allow him to knock the rust off, get back into a groove with the team, and (re)build chemistry with the WRs. It will be plenty of time for him to adjust back into the "team" lifestyle after working own his own for so long.
My bet is that he'll be good to go and ready to see competition wearing different colored jerseys once summer camp roles around next season.
Of course you would love for him to be here this year, improving on the field, with the team, with the coaching staff, building chemistry with the WRs, etc.
However, I think that going through offseason conditioning and then spring football with the team will allow him to knock the rust off, get back into a groove with the team, and (re)build chemistry with the WRs. It will be plenty of time for him to adjust back into the "team" lifestyle after working own his own for so long.
My bet is that he'll be good to go and ready to see competition wearing different colored jerseys once summer camp roles around next season.
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Fixed. thanks haha
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NO. I believe vegas says a difference in a starting QB for a college team is worth somewhere between 4-6 points for a high level guy. I would put Golson in that level had he been back this year. The losses were by more than that. Not saying we couldn't have won if he was back there, but I don't feel confident saying we woulda.
He didn't earn his starting spot, he was given it as his ceiling was much higher and got the opportunity to earn it in live games. Thats why Rees came in so often in the beginning.
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This is simply not true, and borderline ridiculous. I'm not trying to be a dick, but Golson clearly earned his shot at the starting job. Yes, of course his ceiling had something to do with it, but you must not have payed much attention during the spring and fall camp when BK talked about how Golson had not only improved his ball security, but was actually doing the BEST JOB at protecting the ball during the fall camp QB competition.
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I see that worked out for the season for him didn't it. If earned the spot he woulda had it. He didn't. Rees was there for the savior until he grew into the role.
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So you're saying that because a sophomore in his first season of game action needed to be pulled out to calm down and learn from the sidelines, that he didn't earn his chance to be the starter?
If he wouldn't have earned it in the eyes of the coaches, he wouldn't have started after week one once Tommy got back.
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Not at all what I said. Something along the lines of he was handicapped into the starting role by what his ceiling was, his youth, and where he was hoped to lead this team to as opposed to what he'd done. Given the starting role based on what we hoped he could do as opposed to what he actually had proven. If he earned it he wouldn't have to be replaced. He was learning during live games. I absolutely think it was the right thing to do.