Egypt's President Ousted By Military Coup

[BGIF]

Egyptian military ousts Morsy – This Just In - CNN.com Blogs


Egypt's top military leader announces Wednesday night that President Mohamed Morsy has been removed from power

Head of Egypt's constitutional court will be temporary president until new constitution is drawn up and new elections can be held

The military demanded that Morsy share power with opponents after anti-government protests

Morsy, elected last year, refused to comply; mass protests continue to support him

 

[magogian]

This sounds like the lesser evil (crosses fingers).

 

[notredomer23]

Morsi Out in Egypt.

Morsi Out in Egypt.

I had very mixed feelings on this until I found out that Morsi is a USC graduate.

Seriously though, what are you guys's thoughts on this situation. On one hand, I am very happy that Morsi and the Muslim Brotherhood are out of power. Christians were facing great persecution and risk under Morsi. With that said, I wish they would have done this without the military involved and would have stood by who they elected. It almost seems a little French Revolutionish to me haha.

BTW, he really is a USC graduate, so let him burn.

 

[notredomer23]

Dammit BGIF you beat me to the trigger by a minute.

 

[BGIF]

Morsy out in Egypt coup - CNN.com

 

[magogian]

I had very mixed feelings on this until I found out that Morsi is a USC graduate.

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I half expect to hear that someone like Kim Jong Un is also a USC grad, but that would be too good to be true.

 

[BGIF]

This sounds like the lesser evil (crosses fingers).

We hope.

 

[magogian]

A couple of years ago I almost visited Egypt for a few weeks.

Makes me wish I did. Who knows how long it will be until that country is relatively safe again.

 

[phork]

Just like USC, its a tire fire.

 

[BGIF]

I half expect to hear that someone like Kim Jong Un is also a USC grad, but that would be too good to be true.

Cinema major.

Was Leinart's Ballroom Dancing partner.

 

[DSully1995]

Dislike the move, Egypt needs stability, and I doubt they get what they want (what is that even?):

If you elect a free thinking, more libertarian more secular type, Egyptians will clearly see this as evil US corporations propping up a puppet. (IMO)

Other end, more staunch religious figure, well the West doesnt deal well with them.

Not to mention the potential for the military to keep control.

Also, its dangerous to get used to revolution, to treat it like the new normal, business will get scared, and chaos will probably follow

 

[dwshade]

Dislike the move, Egypt needs stability, and I doubt they get what they want (what is that even?):

If you elect a free thinking, more libertarian more secular type, Egyptians will clearly see this as evil US corporations propping up a puppet. (IMO)

Other end, more staunch religious figure, well the West doesnt deal well with them.

Not to mention the potential for the military to keep control.

Also, its dangerous to get used to revolution, to treat it like the new normal, business will get scared, and chaos will probably follow

Your 2nd statement couldn't be more wrong.

 

[DSully1995]

Your 2nd statement couldn't be more wrong.

Ive never been to egypt and am relying on the attitudes ive seen through the internet, alot of which is pretty anti-US. Not being confrontational, but do you know something that I dont?

 

[BGIF]

Dislike the move, Egypt needs stability, and I doubt they get what they want (what is that even?):

If you elect a free thinking, more libertarian more secular type, Egyptians will clearly see this as evil US corporations propping up a puppet. (IMO)

Other end, more staunch religious figure, well the West doesnt deal well with them.

Not to mention the potential for the military to keep control.

Also, its dangerous to get used to revolution, to treat it like the new normal, business will get scared, and chaos will probably follow

The Pharohs wanted stability. As did the Sultans, Pashas, Khedives, and Kings that followed in turn.

Nasser wanted stability and murdered the opposition ruthlessly, as did his predecessors, to maintain his.

Sadat, Mubarak, and Morsy each wanted stability ... for their rule.

 

[DSully1995]

The Pharohs wanted stability. As did the Sultans, Pashas, Khedives, and Kings that followed in turn.

Nasser wanted stability and murdered the opposition ruthlessly, as did his predecessors, to maintain his.

Sadat, Mubarak, and Morsy each wanted stability ... for their rule.

Rule is different when your president is democratically elected, unless if they had a bascially faked election Morsi should be replaced at the polls, not gunpoint

 

[phillyirish]

Dislike the move, Egypt needs stability, and I doubt they get what they want (what is that even?):

If you elect a free thinking, more libertarian more secular type, Egyptians will clearly see this as evil US corporations propping up a puppet. (IMO)

Other end, more staunch religious figure, well the West doesnt deal well with them.

Not to mention the potential for the military to keep control.

Also, its dangerous to get used to revolution, to treat it like the new normal, business will get scared, and chaos will probably follow

Yea but, "Chaos isn’t a pit. Chaos is a ladder. Many who try to climb it fail, and never get to try again. The fall breaks them. And some are given a chance to climb, but refuse. They cling to the realm, or love, or the gods…illusions. Only the ladder is real. The climb is all there is. But they’ll never know this. Not until it’s too late".

 

[woolybug25]

Your 2nd statement couldn't be more wrong.

You do realize that the Egyptian people elected a man from the Muslim Brotherhood through a democratic system right? He wasn't a monarch tyrant, he was an elected official and the majority of their people agreed with his views.

Western progressives have not faired well in that part of the world.

 

[irish1958]

The election was rigged and the "constitution" was rammed through by the rigid, reactionary Muslim hard right extremists, who then proceeded to oppress and persecute minorities, especially the Coptic Christians.
Egypt was another Iran in the making. I am glad they were stopped before it was too late.
Besides, Egyptian women are too beautiful to hide under those gunny sacks.

 

[dwshade]

You do realize that the Egyptian people elected a man from the Muslim Brotherhood through a democratic system right? He wasn't a monarch tyrant, he was an elected official and the majority of their people agreed with his views.

Western progressives have not faired well in that part of the world.

Read Irish1598. Spot on.

 

[dwshade]

Ive never been to egypt and am relying on the attitudes ive seen through the internet, alot of which is pretty anti-US. Not being confrontational, but do you know something that I dont?

I have 40-50 Egyptian friends who all left Egypt due to Muslim extremism. A secular govt. like they used to have or like Turkey has had has always been the best option. Muslim Brotherhood since "winning the election" have been trying to install a rigid Islamic govt.that is not favored by the majority of Egyptian people.

 

[dwshade]

The election was rigged and the "constitution" was rammed through by the rigid, reactionary Muslim hard right extremists, who then proceeded to oppress and persecute minorities, especially the Coptic Christians.
Egypt was another Iran in the making. I am glad they were stopped before it was too late.
Besides, Egyptian women are too beautiful to hide under those gunny sacks.

Used to date an Egytpian women who was a Copt. Very beautiful woman.

 

[woolybug25]

Read Irish1598. Spot on.

If it was "rigged" then why wasn't there a UN outrage like much smaller, less powerful African countries? Are you saying that there isn't a major Muslim population in Egypt?

Total truth on the women though. Cleopatra has some descendants.

 

[dwshade]

If it was "rigged" then why wasn't there a UN outrage like much smaller, less powerful African countries? Are you saying that there isn't a major Muslim population in Egypt?

Total truth on the women though. Cleopatra has some descendants.

UN is a total joke. Major Muslim population? Only about 90%. But there are different factions. Muslim Brotherhood was only supported by 17% of Egytpian people but they were the best organized. Muslim Brotherhood had no clue how to run a country and were only interested in ramming through stricter Islamic law. The military is the real power in Egypt and have always been secular but they don't want to run the country because they would lose billions in foreign aid from the US. They will try and forge a coalition govt. between reformers, Muslims and Copts.

 

[woolybug25]

UN is a total joke. Major Muslim population? Only about 90%. But there are different factions. Muslim Brotherhood was only supported by 17% of Egytpian people but they were the best organized. Muslim Brotherhood had no clue how to run a country and were only interested in ramming through stricter Islamic law. The military is the real power in Egypt and have always been secular but they don't want to run the country because they would lose billions in foreign aid from the US. They will try and forge a coalition govt. between reformers, Muslims and Copts.

I realize the role the military plays in Egypt. Just saying that I don't buy that the election was rigged. A Muslim population voted the stronger Muslim candidate. The UN, despite ones opinion of them, have made demands on dictators voted through rigged elections in Africa. That was not the case in Egypt.

 

[magogian]

I realize the role the military plays in Egypt. Just saying that I don't buy that the election was rigged. A Muslim population voted the stronger Muslim candidate. The UN, despite ones opinion of them, have made demands on dictators voted through rigged elections in Africa. That was not the case in Egypt.

Initial election was considered mostly fair, but Muslim Brotherhood was the only organized party. So, it one handily. The last round of elections were considered pretty fraudulent.

 

[magogian]

The Muslim Brotherhoods definition of democracy can be oversimplified to one person, one vote, one time.

With the power the Muslim Brotherhood gained from the first round of elections, they proceeded to pass a number of decidedly anti-democratic, anti-pluralistic laws that would strip Egypt of democratic institutions and processes.

 

[BobD]

From watching CNN it's a good week to be an Egyptian fireworks maker.

 

[magogian]

From watching CNN it's a good week to be an Egyptian fireworks maker.

Don't you mean Big Fireworks? The true force behind the uprisings?

 

[BGIF]

A day after coup, a new and uncertain order in Egypt - CNN.com

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Morsy, a Western-educated Islamist elected a year ago, "did not achieve the goals of the people" and failed to meet the generals' demands that he share power with his opposition, Egypt's top military officer, Gen. Abdel-Fatah El-Sisi, said in a televised speech to the nation Wednesday.
Adly Mansour, head of the country's Supreme Constitutional Court, replaces Morsy as Egypt's interim president, El-Sisi said.
Mansour had become head of the court just two days earlier following a decree last month by Morsy. He was sworn in as interim president in Cairo on Thursday.
Speaking at the ceremony, Mansour said that the Egyptian people had given him the authority "to amend and correct" the revolution in 2011 that brought down the former ruler Hosni Mubarak.
New elections will be held at an unspecified date, and Mansour will have the power to issue constitutional declarations in the meantime, according to El-Sisi.

The military has not so far publicly commented on Morsy's whereabouts. But Muslim Brotherhood spokesman Gehad El-Haddad told CNN the deposed president was under "house arrest" at the presidential Republican Guard headquarters in Cairo.
The state-run Middle East News Agency said the two top leaders of the Muslim Brotherhood's political party had been taken into custody, and another state-run outlet, the newspaper Al-Ahram, said another 300 were being sought by police.
The Egyptian military has dominated the country for six decades and took direct power for a year and a half after the ouster of Mubarak.
As demonstrations swelled this week against Morsy, who opponents have accused of authoritarianism and forcing through a conservative agenda, the military on Monday gave him 48 hours to order reforms.
Morsy's approval ratings plummeted after his election in June 2012 as his government has failed to keep order or revive Egypt's economy.
As the deadline neared Wednesday, he offered to form an interim coalition government to oversee parliamentary elections and revise the constitution that was enacted in January. But that failed to satisfy the generals.
...

 

[dublinirish]

A couple of years ago I almost visited Egypt for a few weeks.

Makes me wish I did. Who knows how long it will be until that country is relatively safe again.

dude its been safe. tourists still come and go normally, pyramids etc all that jazz