Men who are physically strong are more likely to have right wing political views

[phgreek]

...so if I put a wellness provision in Obama Care that includes mandatory weight training...then in a year we won't want Obama Care ...among other corn-brained liberal "ideas"

IMHO...about the only correlations worth looking at are those which lead to actionable information...guys that do studies/analysis like this...I want to punch them in the face.

What say you spend some time on genomics or human behaviors that cause crap air quality...stuff that is, as some say, real cause effect sh!t you can do something about.

I'm all for raw R&D, but this is a waste of everyone's time.

 

[autry_denson]

What say you spend some time on genomics or human behaviors that cause crap air quality...stuff that is, as some say, real cause effect sh!t you can do something about.

one could make a pretty strong case that research focusing on conservative ideology is, in fact, research on "behaviors that cause crap air quality".

 

[Cackalacky]

If you want to know this stuff, why don't you take a couple minutes to investigate it? Psychological Science is generally a very good journal - they publish short articles with very narrow findings that are in need of replication, for the most part. much less theoretical than other journals in psych.

But more generally, I can't stand the rants that are completely dismissive of empirical work without any attempt to understand what the actual evidence looked like, how the research was done, etc. More likely than not the research was solid, the conclusions were likely to be cautious, the limitations were likely to have been acknowledged - and the journalists ignored all of that and published the superficial headline.

Did you read my post? I want to invesitgate it.....

These journies report stuff like this with no relation to anything else and there is no context. I am a science geek and I want to know that stuff before I believe it. I am not dismissing the scientists, nor their findings, but the journie's article. I want the peer-reviewed journal article. I want where they think the study failed and why. I want to read the peer's responses (if there are any-i don't know because its not in the article). But the scientists clearly acknowledge it does not agree with other studies done. Why? Isn't that important for the reader? Why should this one be so important to take up space in a newspaper? I live in these journals for long periods of time and I am familiar with their importance factor and the importance of replicability.

These journie "articles" are wastes of time. They should make the journals accessible. Not just quote its findings and get a couple of quotes from the authors.

"Short articles with narrow findings that are in need of replication?" Part of my point, which appears to have gone right over your head......

 

[dshans]

And see, here I was thinking conservative men had better upper(sic) body strength since they carry around their children. Compare that to liberals who just kill them before they are born.........

Are there statistics compiled, over time, that compare "God"-Given, "God"-Driven miscarriages/spontaneous "abortions" to those perpetrated by men and women (made in His image and likeness) whether liberal or conservative?

I was never able to carry on my shoulders a first child lost in the second month of pregnancy. I joyously hoisted my son on my shoulders long after necessary (until he outweighed me) and revel in the memories.

As an accountant I'd think you'd delve a bit more thoroughly into the numbers.

 

[Ndaccountant]

Are there statistics compiled, over time, that compare "God"-Given, "God"-Driven miscarriages/spontaneous "abortions" to those perpetrated by men and women (made in His image and likeness) whether liberal or conservative?

I was never able to carry on my shoulders a first child lost in the second month of pregnancy. I joyously hoisted my son on my shoulders long after necessary (until he outweighed me) and revel in the memories.

As an accountant I'd think you'd delve a bit more thoroughly into the numbers.

I would have used italics, but my line would have lost it's bite.

If you have followed my posts before, I would think you would know I was kidding. If not, I wasn't being serious.

 

[autry_denson]

Did you read my post?

These journies report stuff like this with no relation to anything else and there is no context. I am a science geek and I want to know that stuff before I believe it. I am not dismissing the scientists, nor their findings, but the journie's article.

in your post you wrote "this is where these 'studies' lose me". this, along with a bunch of other stuff in your post, seem very clearly to be direct critiques of the original research, not just the journalist's summary.

if you were critiquing the journalist's account exclusively, it sure didn't seem like it - but if so, then we're in agreement. if you were making a critique of the research, my point is you should go look into it first.

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

Leprechaun Lounge, everybody.

 

[Cackalacky]

Seriously, these are the worst types of ways to "illuminate" a point. I want to see the journal the study was done from. Peer review responses. How much scrutiny was this study put under. How often is it cited in other peer reviewed journal papers? What is its impact factor?

Above: Direct addressing of the journie's presentation.

Oh really...ok...... I want to see the paper where they address the faults of their methodology as well why it does not agree with other studies. did they analyze that?

Just a few questions I have.

The quote I pulled is an example of how the journie's quoting of the author contradicts what the study says. The journie presents a two line quote. Why only devote two lines in a fairly large article. This is me wanting to investigate, not critiquing the scientist. I am critiquing the journie for not devoting some lines to important aspects of a journal article.

This is where these "studies" lose me.

OK.... studies are in quotes because people around here like to fling journie articles out like they are the research (I have been at fault too). I don't like that. I probably should have been more clear.

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

how do i causation versus correlation

 

[autry_denson]

Above: Direct addressing of the journie's presentation.


The quote I pulled is an example of how the journie's quoting of the author contradicts what the study says. The journie presents a two line quote. Why only devote two lines in a fairly large article. This is me wanting to investigate, not critiquing the scientist. I am critiquing the journie for not devoting some lines to important aspects of a journal article.

OK.... studies are in quotes because people around here like to fling journie articles out like they are the research (I have been at fault too). I don't like that. I probably should have been more clear.

got it. i guess i paid more attention to that 'studies' comment than the rest, threw me off. my bad.

 

[dshans]

If you have followed my posts before, I would think you would know I was kidding. If not, I wasn't being serious.

Sh¡t! Hoisted on my own petard!!!

My apologies. Would you prefer a v-gift or a v-donation as recompense?

 

[dshans]

how do i causation versus correlation

White Light, White Heat.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

dshans is okay, NDacct, Cack, Grey, ACamp, NOLA, and so forth. But in general this thread makes me embarrassed for a few of you.

 

[IrishJayhawk]

Thinking about it... I am a personal trainer and workout 6 days a week. Here's my take. For a vast majority of people, you have to work your *** off to be physically strong. You don't get strong by sitting on your *** doing nothing. This is kind of like money and life. Those who are strong understand the work that needs to be done to obtain a goal, financially and physically. Someone who is "weak" doesn't want to work to get to a certain goal.

It seems like a work ethic thing to me.

This whole thing should be in italics. It's just very funny.

 

[Ndaccountant]

Sh¡t! Hoisted on my own petard!!!

My apologies. Would you prefer a v-gift or a v-donation as recompense?

Vgift if you are so inclined.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

Really? I had all the hipsters and new age geeks in Boston pegged as Romney campaign staffers looking for a new job.

 

[magogian]

There was also a study by UCLA within the past year that showed attractive women tend to be right while butch women tend to lean left... Lol

It all makes sense. A form of the matching hypothesis.

 

[magogian]

what I have experienced and found to be true at least anecdotally, which is that the only conservative people I know are brittle old people and socially maladjusted brittle young people who were picked on as kids and adopted conservative values as a way to justify their hatred of the world and their fellow man.

Good Lord.

 

[Junkhead]

I'm a red commie, and have like 30" pythons, so what does that mean?

 

[magogian]

I'm a red commie, and have like 30" pythons, so what does that mean?

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

I read a report where people who feel the need to look for articles that say they're strong tend to be weak and/or have tiny dicks.

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

White Light, White Heat.

Sister Ray is the best composition of any modern music.

 

[dshans]

Vgift if you are so inclined.

A little v-sumpin' is headed your way. I just wish that a fine Cognac or a crow confit for me to eat were among the choices.

 

[autry_denson]

The hospitality around here does not equal that of the Irish fans game day. Excluding you Cack, the whole mod staff and a few old timers, the number of smart posters has increased as the IQ average has continued to decrease.

strange to lament the lack of hospitality on the site in one sentence and then casually ridicule virtually everyone on the site in the next sentence (exempting a select few).

 

[rikkitikki08]

I go where ever the sexy ladies are......that's my political stance

 

[Bogtrotter07]

strange to lament the lack of hospitality on the site in one sentence and then casually ridicule virtually everyone on the site in the next sentence (exempting a select few).

Why, if the one is a function or a condition of the other? And ridicule is your word, not mine. There was anything but the intent to ridicule; as per usual, it was my intent that it be a blunt statement of fact.

Tell me where this thread wasn't a "mine is bigger than yours" exercise, with the resultant predictable tussle. It occurred to me, that everyone loves this kind of thing because the get to yell and act sassy, something they wouldn't do on a daily basis in real life. I showed a few of my friends this thread and they got quite a chuckle.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

And it was far from a select few.

 

[Cackalacky]

A little v-sumpin' is headed your way. I just wish that a fine Cognac or a crow confit for me to eat were among the choices.

I know the taste of some crow. It also is a dish best served cold.

 

[autry_denson]

This whole thing should be in italics. It's just very funny.

Totally agree, this was great as the first response to the article.

Personally I think this one would have been better in italics too, equally funny to read:

dshans is okay, NDacct, Cack, Grey, ACamp, NOLA, and so forth. But in general this thread makes me embarrassed for a few of you.

 

[GoIrish41]

...so if I put a wellness provision in Obama Care that includes mandatory weight training...then in a year we won't want Obama Care ...among other corn-brained liberal "ideas"

IMHO...about the only correlations worth looking at are those which lead to actionable information...guys that do studies/analysis like this...I want to punch them in the face.

What say you spend some time on genomics or human behaviors that cause crap air quality...stuff that is, as some say, real cause effect sh!t you can do something about.

I'm all for raw R&D, but this is a waste of everyone's time.

Obamacare was actually a "corn-brained conservative idea"