'14 IL TE Nic Weishar (Notre Dame Signee)

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If you were Tyler, look at the depth chart at the TE position. I'm 100 percent sure the staff is going to recruit him until the last breath but you can't blame Tyler if he goes to other school. I think is a Sony Michel situation with the current running backs at ND. So much talent at some position and everybody can not play.

Doesn't Sony want to go somewhere with good backs? Pretty sure I've read that before. Considering Georgia are the favourites for him and their 1st and 2nd RBs are probably better than anyone ND have on their roster right now and both just true Sophmores your logic doesn't make much sense to me.

Usually, the most important thing for a highly touted player is to play EARLY.. that's a fact.

No its not. It may come into play in a lot of recruitments, but as has been discussed before top players will usually back their ability to come in and compete for playing time. How do Bama keep pulling top classes if early playing time is the most important thing a recruit considers?
 

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Haven't been on as much as normal over last two days. But what an interesting couple of days for TE recruiting. Haven't had a chance to go back and read what everybody has been saying but interested to see. Wiltfong was right on the domino effect just completely wrong on which player would end where. It just goes to show that even well connected guys like him can be right and then completely wrong at the same time. Welcome aboard Nic!
 

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I thought Welch had a foot problem? Or am I thinking of someone else?

I thought he had an ACL his freshman year, and then again last year. I know it was an ACL last year, but I may be confused on the first injury, but I'm pretty sure he had an injury issue that led him to redshirting as a freshman.
 
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The insider on II, TJ, also stated that Nic was the #1 flex TE on our board, although there was not a consensus among all the TE's besides Luatua being the #1 traditional TE. They really thought they would have a hard time pulling him from Northwestern, and were not sure he would even choose the Irish.

Sean Mele on ISD is also very high on Nic. He definitely has the most athleticism out of the three Midwest TE's that just announced, and the word from all those with knowledge is that he is a 'gamer' and a 'true competitor'.

The more I read about Nic, the more I love this pickup. Very glad he is on board.

What's interesting is that if you look at the 'skills' section of the player profiles, Nic grades out just as good if not better then Jeb, Ian, and Tyler overall.
 

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The insider on II, TJ, also stated that Nic was the #1 flex TE on our board, although there was not a consensus among all the TE's besides Luatua being the #1 traditional TE. They really thought they would have a hard time pulling him from Northwestern, and were not sure he would even choose the Irish.

Sean Mele on ISD is also very high on Nic. He definitely has the most athleticism out of the three Midwest TE's that just announced, and the word from all those with knowledge is that he is a 'gamer' and a 'true competitor'.

The more I read about Nic, the more I love this pickup. Very glad he is on board.

Could not agree more. Considering the direction our offense seems to be going, Nic seems like a great fit at "big slot" (oh you've never heard that term before?? It's gonna be a thing.).

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That ISD article really makes me wonder if, in spite of the general thinking that Weishar was headed to NW, he was torn between ND and scUM, what with the deceased brother loving Hoke and all, and Bunting committing to scUM made the decision easy,
 

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That ISD article really makes me wonder if, in spite of the general thinking that Weishar was headed to NW, he was torn between ND and scUM, what with the deceased brother loving Hoke and all, and Bunting committing to scUM made the decision easy,

That was my initial thought after reading that. I would have been happy either way with Bunting or Weishar but I agree with Ironman on this. The more you read about Weishar the more excited you get!
 

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I see you edited your original post. Niklas would be in his second year of full time TE action, and this year he has the chance to be our undisputed #1 option at that position. Add to that the fact that he has a chance to be a monster blocker at that position, and he is a great all around NFL TE prospect.

Welch is will be a senior this fall. We can not assume he will be back as a 5th year in 2014, can we? Numbers may get tight, and he is coming off a major injury.
You do know Welch has two years of eligibility after this year. I don't see the staff not taking him for another year. Kelly loves the kid.

BTW welcome to Notre Dame Nic.
 

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Going into last weekend I really thought it was Bunting then Weishar in the eyes of the staff but it turns out that wasn't the case. I like hearing we got our man and the #1 guy at his position.
 

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You do know Welch has two years of eligibility after this year. I don't see the staff not taking him for another year. Kelly loves the kid.

BTW welcome to Notre Dame Nic.

No he doesn't. He would have to apply for a medical redshirt, and that is an absolute crapshoot, as we have seen. He graduates next spring, and is coming off an ACL tear. Those are the only factual certainties.
 

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No he doesn't. He would have to apply for a medical redshirt, and that is an absolute crapshoot, as we have seen. He graduates next spring, and is coming off an ACL tear. Those are the only factual certainties.
Sorry I should have said he most likely will be eligible for 2 more years. If he applied for a medical he would get it. The guy missed an entire season. Not 3/4 of a season like Jamoris.

Kelly likes Welch and he is coming along after his injury. No one thought Stockton and Goodman would get 5th years. This kid will be back for at least one more season. Mark it down! I'm the prophet and you are not!
 
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Sorry I should have said he most likely will be eligible for 2 more years. If he applied for a medical he would get it. The guy missed an entire season. Not 3/4 of a season like Jamoris.

Kelly likes Welch and he is coming along after his injury. No one thought Stockton and Goodman would get 5th years. This kid will be back for at least one more season. Mark it down! I'm the profit and you are not!


I would feel much better if you were a prophet. But I will take profit over loss any day:spam:
 
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What's interesting is that if you look at the 'skills' section of the player profiles, Nic grades out just as good if not better then Jeb, Ian, and Tyler overall.

And if you look at decision making, he grades out higher as well. After all, he chose ND.
 

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Sorry I should have said he most likely will be eligible for 2 more years. If he applied for a medical he would get it. The guy missed an entire season. Not 3/4 of a season like Jamoris.

Kelly likes Welch and he is coming along after his injury. No one thought Stockton and Goodman would get 5th years. This kid will be back for at least one more season. Mark it down! I'm the profit and you are not!

You need to have lost two years to injury to get a medical redshirt though. Welch wasn't injured in 2010, was he? I thought that was a healthy freshman redshirt.

I do think he will more than likely be back for 2014. Kelly does seem to love him, at least as a receiver
 

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You need to have lost two years to injury to get a medical redshirt though. Welch wasn't injured in 2010, was he? I thought that was a healthy freshman redshirt.

I do think he will more than likely be back for 2014. Kelly does seem to love him, at least as a receiver
You have the rule where it says 2 full years?
 

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Yep. i have never heard that before. Nor do I want to look for it.

You don't have to look for it. i don't care enough

I find that hard to believe. We talked about it ad nauseam re: Slaughter.

Anyway, here's the rule:

14.2.1.5 Five-Year Rule Waiver. The Committee on Student-Athlete Reinstatement, or its designated committee, by a two-thirds majority of its members present and voting, may approve waivers of the five-year rule as
it deems appropriate. (Revised: 7/30/10)
14.2.1.5.1 Waiver Criteria. A waiver of the five-year period of eligibility is designed to provide a studentathlete with the opportunity to participate in four seasons of intercollegiate competition within a five-year
period. This waiver may be granted, based upon objective evidence, for reasons that are beyond the control
of the student-athlete or the institution, which deprive the student-athlete of the opportunity to participate
for more than one season in his/her sport within the five-year period.
The Committee on Student-Athlete
Reinstatement reserves the right to review requests that do not meet the more-than-one-year criteria detailed in this bylaw for circumstances of extraordinary or extreme hardship. A student-athlete who has
exhausted his or her five years of eligibility may continue to practice (but not compete) for a maximum of
30 consecutive calendar days, provided the student-athlete’s institution has submitted a waiver request. The
student-athlete may not commence practice until the institution has filed such a request. Further, if such a
request is denied prior to exhausting the 30-day practice period, the student-athlete must cease all practice
activities upon the institution’s notification of the denial. (Revised: 4/17/91, 1/11/94, 8/10/94, 10/12/95,
4/27/00, 7/30/10)
14.2.1.5.1.1 Circumstances Beyond Control. Circumstances considered to be beyond the control of the student-athlete or the institution and do not cause a participation opportunity to be used
shall include, but are not limited to, the following: (Adopted: 8/10/94, Revised: 10/12/95, 7/30/10)
(a) Situations clearly supported by contemporaneous medical documentation, which states that a
student-athlete is unable to participate in intercollegiate competition as a result of incapacitating
physical or mental circumstances;
(b) The student-athlete is unable to participate in intercollegiate athletics as a result of a life-threatening or incapacitating injury or illness suffered by a member of the student-athlete’s immediate family, which clearly is supported by contemporaneous medical documentation; (Revised:
1/9/06)
(c) Reliance by the student-athlete upon written, contemporaneous, clearly erroneous academic
advice provided to the student-athlete from a specific academic authority from a collegiate institution regarding the academic status of the student-athlete or prospective student-athlete, which
directly leads to that individual not being eligible to participate and, but for the clearly erroneous advice, the student-athlete would have established eligibility for intercollegiate competition;
(Revised: 10/9/96)
(d) Natural disasters (e.g., earthquake, flood); and
(e) Extreme financial difficulties as a result of a specific event (e.g., layoff, death in the family)
experienced by the student-athlete or by an individual upon whom the student-athlete is legally dependent, which prohibit the student-athlete from participating in intercollegiate athletics. These circumstances must be clearly supported by objective documentation (e.g., decree of
bankruptcy, proof of termination) and must be beyond the control of the student-athlete or the
individual upon whom the student-athlete is legally dependent. (Adopted: 10/12/95, Revised:
8/12/97)

Welch lost only one year, not "more than one year," to injury, unless there is some argument that he redshirted in 2010 due to injury. That was our argument with Slaughter, that he redshirted his frosh year because he had a lingering injury from high school, and the NCAA didn't go for it.
 
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I find that hard to believe. We talked about it ad nauseam re: Slaughter.

Anyway, here's the rule:



Welch lost only one year, not "more than one year," to injury, unless there is some argument that he redshirted in 2010 due to injury. That was our argument with Slaughter, that he redshirted his frosh year because he had a lingering injury, and the NCAA didn't go for it.
Find it hard to believe?

When threads get long and boring I don't bother reading them. I was never interested in reading the garbage in Slaughters thread. Or the garbage about why and where Kiel was transfering to.
 

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Hmmmmm..... 24/7 says 4* according to our front page [and we like 24/7 don't we?], plus #8 TE and #205 best-in-nation.

4:s:,#5 TE, ahead of Blazevich, Bunting and Helm. Of the TEs we're pursuing, only Luatau is ahead of him. I normally defer to 247's Composite, but in this case, with 247 being the outlier, and Nic's reported status as the #1 flex TE on the staff's board, it's doesn't feel like a rationalization to trust 247 on this one. We got our guy.

As a small aside: I get a very strong "itch" that Coach is going towards a six-TE per season roster very soon.

I could swear someone here on IE called this over a year ago...

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Find it hard to believe?

When threads get long and boring I don't bother reading them. I was never interested in reading the garbage in Slaughters thread. Or the garbage about why and where Kiel was transfering to.

Ha, fair enough. I kind of felt the same way regarding Slaughter ... we talked an awful lot about a request for a waiver that seemed really unlikely to be granted. People would qualify seemingly every post with, "now, if Slaughter gets a sixth-year ..." which seemed to me a bit like saying "now, if Tee Shepard transfers back to ND ... " But then Kelly would say something in the press like "our compliance office feels we have a great shot" and add fuel to the fire.
 
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p><a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23NotreDame">#NotreDame</a> head coach Brian Kelly is at Marist checking in on his later commit junior TE Nic Weishar</p>— EDGYTIM.com (@EDGYTIM) <a href="https://twitter.com/EDGYTIM/status/327118045522829312">April 24, 2013</a></blockquote>
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I just prefer my posts to have substance.

Yeah, I was in or out earlier, and I wanted to welcome Nic on board. Here is the rub. I hear what you are saying.

I think Niklas stays because of his and his families values. And with the experience of one whole side of his family, he is going to get the chance to make an NFL roster. I think he has said as much about not leaving early. If he stays he will be one of "the" leaders, and probably win a coveted award.

Alex Welch, though I have never spoken to him, I have to a number of his family members. Here was a guy with two freaky injuries in a row. I mean it is at least freaky that he had both in the same career. He is much tougher than most think, and I just feel he has the monkey off of his back. I see him as having two healthy seasons for ND, and when someone says he may have the best hands on the team, that means something, and isn't far from wrong.

Even if one happens, I doubt the other does. I think ND is going to be able to send tight ends in by committee for a while!!
 
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I thought Welch had a foot problem? Or am I thinking of someone else?

Welch had an infection. I don't think it is a secret any more. The year before last, he had a wound and developed MRSA. A family member who is a trained nurse saw the wound and wondered how he could even bear weight on the leg. The quote was something like, "Here he is running, and I wonder how he can even be walking!"
 

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Oh that's right, he did have that foot infection in 2011. Good memory Bogs. He did play in most games that season though.
 
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