College football top 125 coaches, Athlon Sports

[GBdomer]

Ranking All 125 College Football Head Coaches for 2013 | AthlonSports.com

Hilarious Al Golden is in the top 20.

Rich Rod over Les Miles HAHAHHA

 

[greyhammer90]

Les got snubbed big time.

 

[BGIF]

Kelly #4

 

[BGIF]

Kiffin 57

Weis 106

 

[Rack Em]

Les got snubbed big time.

Really? He's not that good of a coach. He's a fantastic recruiter at a big time SEC program with little to no academic standards. He puts elite athletes on the field, but some of the calls he makes (or doesn't) leads me to believe he doesn't have a brain. Probably one of the best recruiters in the game, but I question his coaching ability.

 

[Rack Em]

You know who really got snubbed? Boob Davie at 89!

 

[GBdomer]

You know who really got snubbed? Boob Davie at 89!

Bob Davie even that high at 89 is laughable

 

[greyhammer90]

Really? He's not that good of a coach. He's a fantastic recruiter at a big time SEC program with little to no academic standards. He puts elite athletes on the field, but some of the calls he makes (or doesn't) leads me to believe he doesn't have a brain. Probably one of the best recruiters in the game, but I question his coaching ability.

1. I consider recruiting to be an intregal part of being a good college football coach.
2. You don't consistently win 10 or more games a year in the SEC on accident.

I disagree that the majority of coach's who are placed above him on that list are "better" than him.

 

[phillyirish]

Ranking All 125 College Football Head Coaches for 2013 | AthlonSports.com

Hilarious Al Golden is in the top 20.

Rich Rod over Les Miles HAHAHHA

Temple. A dead program in north philly, probably one of the most incredible turn around in sports history

 

[GBdomer]

Temple. A dead program in north philly, probably one of the most incredible turn around in sports history

in sports history? really?

Yet at Miami with all that talent he can't recruit or win games. He can't even pack the stadium good coach not top 20

 

[irishog77]

Temple. A dead program in north philly, probably one of the most incredible turn around in sports history

Bill Snyder at KStatre. Vermeil with the Rams. Those were/are truly incredible sports turn-arounds.

Golden at Temple was a good job. "One of the most incredible turn around in sports history" may be taking it a bit far.

 

[phillyirish]

Bill Snyder at Kstate was probably the best in college football history. Still don't discredit what Golden did accomplish. Maybe I exaggerated a bit, but Temple was the worst program in Div I football when Golden took over, now they are a respectable program. He was told Temple was dead end, career killer when he took the job.

 

[Irish Houstonian]

Bill Snyder at Kstate was probably the best in college football history. Still don't discredit what Golden did accomplish. Maybe I exaggerated a bit, but Temple was the worst program in Div I football when Golden took over, now they are a respectable program. He was told Temple was dead end, career killer when he took the job.

Don't forget Ol' Schnelly. Now THAT's a "turn-around".

 

[IrishLax]

Charlie Weis at ND was 10x the turnaround of Temple... and you don't see anyone giving Charlie props because of the tank job in his final 3 years.

His horrid job at Miami in a down ACC = a ridiculous ranking at #19.

 

[phillyirish]

Charlie Weis at ND was 10x the turnaround of Temple... and you don't see anyone giving Charlie props because of the tank job in his final 3 years.

His horrid job at Miami in a down ACC = a ridiculous ranking at #19.

Charlie Weis at ND was not even close to the turn around of Temple. Just because ND had a couple of bad years? And the tank job you pointed out means everything, by turning around a program you don't leave it off just as bad as when you took over the program. I get it Al Golden sucks at Miami, and to be honest he was dealt a sh*ty hand there too.

 

[Rack Em]

1. I consider recruiting to be an intregal part of being a good college football coach.
2. You don't consistently win 10 or more games a year in the SEC on accident.

I disagree that the majority of coach's who are placed above him on that list are "better" than him.

Ok #1 is fair. But Charlie Weis was a good recruiter. It's only part of the equation. Both of them put great athletes on the field, but consistently make head-scratching decision. Miles is a horrid clock manager. That's a really, really important part of being a "good" coach IMO.

Blind squirrels find nuts every now and then. I think Miles (due to his recruiting prowess and the football program he inherited from Saban) is in a good position to look better than what he actually is.

I think where he is ranked is accurate in terms of his coaching ability. You're putting more stock in recruiting than I am - that's salesmanship. I put more stock in the development of players. He passes the eye test for sure. But if you pull the covers up, there's a little sh!t in the bed.

 

[ulukinatme]

Not sure I'd put the ol' ball coach as high as #5. Yeah, he could win at Florida when Alabama wasn't the powerhouse it is now, but he's kept South Carolina in the middle of the pack as they pretty much always have been. I'd probably put him closer to the 20s range at least. Mark Richt and Brady Hoke seems too high at 11 and 14 respectively as well.

Les probably needs to move up a bit, Mack Brown is killing Texas so he needs to move down (Probably to #125 if you read the Shag heh). Jimbo Fisher is probably a little better than #38, Jim Mora is too low at #54, and Lane Kiffin should be lower than #57...but if moving him up would keep him at USC longer, I'll take it. Kirk Ferentz is just right at 60, but he's paid like he's in the top 10 ha.

 

[Kak7304]

Charlie Weis at ND was not even close to the turn around of Temple. Just because ND had a couple of bad years? And the tank job you pointed out means everything, by turning around a program you don't leave it off just as bad as when you took over the program. I get it Al Golden sucks at Miami, and to be honest he was dealt a sh*ty hand there too.

He took over a program with a roster that wasn't close to full and didnt have a lot of talent. Yes, BQ and Samardzija and a few others were talented but the program was trending down again and there were no recruits behind them. Weis came in and rebuilt the roster and proved you can win and recruit at ND, making it a more desirable job than when he inherited it. Our program was in shambles when he was hired but despite underachieving, was a good-looking job when he left. The guys he recruited played in a national championship as seniors. You are very incorrect to say our program was no better when he left than when he took over as head coach.

 

[IrishSpartan]

Peterson has only 8 losses....

 

[STLDomer]

Bielema should be ahead of Saban....

 

[greyhammer90]

Ok #1 is fair. But Charlie Weis was a good recruiter. It's only part of the equation. Both of them put great athletes on the field, but consistently make head-scratching decision. Miles is a horrid clock manager. That's a really, really important part of being a "good" coach IMO.

Blind squirrels find nuts every now and then. I think Miles (due to his recruiting prowess and the football program he inherited from Saban) is in a good position to look better than what he actually is.

I think where he is ranked is accurate in terms of his coaching ability. You're putting more stock in recruiting than I am - that's salesmanship. I put more stock in the development of players. He passes the eye test for sure. But if you pull the covers up, there's a little sh!t in the bed.

I disagree. He has his bad moments, but he also has his moments of brilliance. Like I said, he's had 11 win seasons in 5 out of his last 7 seasons. He's also 2-2 against Saban and the Bamanaut the last 4 times they played head-to-head. You don't do things like that in the SEC just from recruiting. (And you don't do that in the SEC WEST in particular.) Hell, look where Mark Richt is on the board. He's a good recruiter, in a crazy talent-rich state, with the big SEC state school. What has he done? Won the SEC East a few times while Tennessee and Florida were having down years.

 

[ACamp1900]

You know who really got snubbed? Boob Davie at 89!

Bob Davie even that high at 89 is laughable

I wouldn't say he was a horrid coach at ND... just a bleow average one... and he had a great year last year considering where New Mexico was prior to his hiring... I honestly think 89 may be too low...

 

[WakeUpEchoes]

Ok #1 is fair. But Charlie Weis was a good recruiter. It's only part of the equation. Both of them put great athletes on the field, but consistently make head-scratching decision. Miles is a horrid clock manager. That's a really, really important part of being a "good" coach IMO.

Blind squirrels find nuts every now and then. I think Miles (due to his recruiting prowess and the football program he inherited from Saban) is in a good position to look better than what he actually is.

I think where he is ranked is accurate in terms of his coaching ability. You're putting more stock in recruiting than I am - that's salesmanship. I put more stock in the development of players. He passes the eye test for sure. But if you pull the covers up, there's a little sh!t in the bed.

I lean more with this. Actually, I have a handful of close friends who are LSU homers that openly admit Les is not a good X's and O's, scheme-driven coach. They also think he can't keep players at LSU and doesn't foster a great environment.

 

[WakeUpEchoes]

Charlie Weis at ND was 10x the turnaround of Temple... and you don't see anyone giving Charlie props because of the tank job in his final 3 years.

His horrid job at Miami in a down ACC = a ridiculous ranking at #19.

Honestly, I think Al gets about 3-4 year pass on his job at Miami. Al's going to bring Miami back, I just have a gut feeling.

I agree he doesn't deserve to be in the top 20. But he hasn't done a horrible job. His record has to be discounted by the incompetence that existed at that university before and right when he got there.

 

[ulukinatme]

Not saying Boob is a great coach, but he may be better than Weis. New Mexico had 3 blowout losses last year, but they were to Texas, Texas Tech, and UNLV. In their other 6 losses they were manageable games. That sounds bad, but considering where Loxley left them prior...they had 3 more wins last year than the year before, came within 3 points of beating Boise State, 6 points behind Air Force, and 7 points behind Nevada. They were the 5th best rushing offense last year as well, they couldn't score well at all the previous year. If he can get that defense to stop a couple scores, New Mexico might have an okay team again.

Kansas, on the other hand...Weis would need a big turn around, that team may lose all 9 of their final games this season unless something big changes.

 

[Rocket89]

Not sure I'd put the ol' ball coach as high as #5. Yeah, he could win at Florida when Alabama wasn't the powerhouse it is now, but he's kept South Carolina in the middle of the pack as they pretty much always have been. I'd probably put him closer to the 20s range at least. Mark Richt and Brady Hoke seems too high at 11 and 14 respectively as well.

Les probably needs to move up a bit, Mack Brown is killing Texas so he needs to move down (Probably to #125 if you read the Shag heh). Jimbo Fisher is probably a little better than #38, Jim Mora is too low at #54, and Lane Kiffin should be lower than #57...but if moving him up would keep him at USC longer, I'll take it. Kirk Ferentz is just right at 60, but he's paid like he's in the top 10 ha.

.640 winning percentage is pretty good at South Carolina, considering they were pretty much awful before he got there (5+ losses in 13 out of prior 15 seasons before Spurrier), he's had them playing at a high level at the height of the SEC power, and he has back-to-back 11-win seasons. In other words, he's been the coach of the two best seasons in school history.

 

[ulukinatme]

.640 winning percentage is pretty good at South Carolina, considering they were pretty much awful before he got there (5+ losses in 13 out of prior 15 seasons before Spurrier), he's had them playing at a high level at the height of the SEC power, and he has back-to-back 11-win seasons. In other words, he's been the coach of the two best seasons in school history.

The Clowney effect? Alright, Spurrier is a pretty good coach. I just have a hard time accepting him at #5.

 

[NDPhilly]

I actually think Miami will be one of the most improved teams in the country next year. They return a ton. I could see them going 9-3.

 

[anarin]

I cant get past...

#14 - Overall Record: 66-57 (10 years)

 

[NoJusticeNoPeace]

My top 10 would be

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Snyder
Meyer
Kelly
Strong
Sumlin
Petersen
Spurrier
Patterson
Fitzgerald

Major "what have you done for me lately" with Stoops, Beamer, and Petrino. Strong has IMO a serious shot at being runner-up to Alabama, which is really impressive for an AAC school, and Sumlin actually beat Bama. Both of those guys are underrated in this thing.