North Korea conflict

[Irish Houstonian]

No but you arent gonna add to your shining city on a hill image by doing stuff like that. Down the road 15-20, China-Iran-Iraq-Afghanistan-NK-Russia, the "axis of evil" might realize the US isnt the hegemony it once was, and then you might regret the choices of the past

I'm not saying we should necessarily just bomb the crap out of them, just that the WWI Germany analogy doesn't really work.

 

[irishpat183]

No but you arent gonna add to your shining city on a hill image by doing stuff like that. Down the road 15-20, China-Iran-Iraq-Afghanistan-NK-Russia, the "axis of evil" might realize the US isnt the hegemony it once was, and then you might regret the choices of the past

I guess I should've put it this way...if a country CHOOSES to go to war with us, that means started by them, we don't need to be over there cleaning up.

I'm sorry. If we don't start the fight, then we shouldn't be cleaning up the mess

 

[Bogtrotter07]

At the time it was of Davonte' Neal

Cause I wanted to tell you that was one of the most striking avatars I have ever seen!

 

[Ultimate Penn St. Hater]

Dick Cheyney chimes in on North Korea.

Cheney to GOP leaders: ‘We’re in deep doo doo’ on North Korea – CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Dick Cheyney chimes in on North Korea.

Cheney to GOP leaders: ‘We’re in deep doo doo’ on North Korea – CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs

Dick Cheyney may be the only US "celebrity" to whom no one should listen. He was wrong about everything, even his daughter. Seriously, chimps can pick better. The only thing this guy did well was make money bending the rules and not getting caught. Even W abandoned him before their "end."

 

[phork]

Need to Seal Team 6 that punk and his mother. And if that doesn't work, carpet bomb every known location of his residences.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

Need to Seal Team 6 that punk and his mother. And if that doesn't work, carpet bomb every known location of his residences.

You obviously have no experience with Koreans.

 

[rikkitikki08]

Need to Seal Team 6 that punk and his mother. And if that doesn't work, carpet bomb every known location of his residences.

You cut the head off a snake and what will it do? STILL MOVE......North Koreans are so incredibly brain washed that killing their "leader" would actually make the conflict so to speak much much worse

 

[GoIrish41]

China has been, since the beginning of recorded history, essentially a gigantic ant colony.

 

[Old Man Mike]

I've studied a fair amount of Chinese ancient history. The "ant colony" remark is very clever, but wrong. In fact, if one chooses to regard the different ethnic and cultural areas of China this way, say for diplomacy sake, it could even be disastrously wrong.

As far as NK is concerned, as I stated earlier, the new economics of China has not totally westernized the place, that's true, but the stake that China now has in the global economy is bending their whole previous Maoist system out of shape, and it's on its way out. It will take some time. One "product" of this is that China wants no part of NK blowing things up, and wants no part of having to take the place over as an economic lead weight.

By the way, I have no love for China, consider their current economy an environmental disaster, and their general resource hoarding and exploitation a large deleterious impact not only on the US but many poor countries around the world [particularly in Africa]. I try to hold to a personal policy of not buying Chinese products.

 

[tadman95]

I've studied a fair amount of Chinese ancient history. The "ant colony" remark is very clever, but wrong. In fact, if one chooses to regard the different ethnic and cultural areas of China this way, say for diplomacy sake, it could even be disastrously wrong.

As far as NK is concerned, as I stated earlier, the new economics of China has not totally westernized the place, that's true, but the stake that China now has in the global economy is bending their whole previous Maoist system out of shape, and it's on its way out. It will take some time. One "product" of this is that China wants no part of NK blowing things up, and wants no part of having to take the place over as an economic lead weight.

By the way, I have no love for China, consider their current economy an environmental disaster, and their general resource hoarding and exploitation a large deleterious impact not only on the US but many poor countries around the world [particularly in Africa]. I try to hold to a personal policy of not buying Chinese products.

A story and a thought:

1- I took, as an elective, a course "Ancinet Chinese Civilizations" my junior year. No idea why. The first day of class, sitting in a small room waiting for the professor to show up, flipping thru the rather intimdating book, the door opens. In comes an older gentleman and he writes his name on the board. That name looked familiar then realized he was the author of our text book.

I knew I was in trouble, hardest course I ever took. Thankfully I managed to forget most of what I crammed repeatedly for four months.

2- Your thoughts/feeling on China, I wholeheartedly agree. The bad news is they are just getting warmed up. Their economy is going to be a monster, creating many problems as countries compete for resources. Emvironmentally, they are writing checks we're all going to cash. (We do that too sad to say)

 

[PraetorianND]

A story and a thought:

1- I took, as an elective, a course "Ancinet Chinese Civilizations" my junior year. No idea why. The first day of class, sitting in a small room waiting for the professor to show up, flipping thru the rather intimdating book, the door opens. In comes an older gentleman and he writes his name on the board. That name looked familiar then realized he was the author of our text book.

I knew I was in trouble, hardest course I ever took. Thankfully I managed to forget most of what I crammed repeatedly for four months.

2- Your thoughts/feeling on China, I wholeheartedly agree. The bad news is they are just getting warmed up. Their economy is going to be a monster, creating many problems as countries compete for resources. Emvironmentally, they are writing checks we're all going to cash. (We do that too sad to say)

Any amount of greenhouse gasses we eliminate in the U.S. or the rest of the world is instantly added back by China and India. China for example opens a new coal power plant every 4-7 days. India has 455 new coal power plants planned; that is four times as many as are currently there. This isn't clean coal either, this the bad stuff that's most harmful to our environment. People don't realize that this stuff is cumulative, it doesn't matter if it's going into the atmosphere in China, Russia, Canada, or the U.S., it disperses and has the same impact everywhere. Obviously there are some aspects of pollution that are local to the source but not greenhouse gasses.

Bad news.


India's Coal Power Plants Kill Tens of Thousands Every Year, Study Says - NYTimes.com
China's 2030 CO2 Emissions Could Equal the Entire World's Today | Wired Science | Wired.com

 

[Bogtrotter07]

This is something we should have a vbook on. The over under of China actually so destroying their own environment that they ruin their own (everyone's) economy.

 

[DSully1995]

This is something we should have a vbook on. The over under of China actually so destroying their own environment that they ruin their own (everyone's) economy.

might be simpler faster than that, some economists think theyre just a bubble, their construction is ridiculous, cities upon cities built with no one to live there.

 

[Irish YJ]

This is something we should have a vbook on. The over under of China actually so destroying their own environment that they ruin their own (everyone's) economy.

The below is what concerns me as much as the polution. Ultimately I think corruption has started to take its toll and GDP will trend down for the next couple of years. I think the environmental issues will escalate beyond most of the predictions.

China is the largest creditor nation in the world and owns approximately 20.8% of all foreign-owned US Treasury securities

 

[Bogtrotter07]

might be simpler faster than that, some economists think theyre just a bubble, their construction is ridiculous, cities upon cities built with no one to live there.

When they put poisons in baby formula, the solution is to shoot the head of the production facility in the head. Then they wait a few months and go back to the same sub-standards.

My ex-step-father-in-law is an environmental scientist. Remember the lead scare? He went in to the dollar store, bought twenty toys, doped one and had his class use their equipment to identify which one was contaminated with lead. The class determined they all were. He double checked. We let them in without testing. Can you imagine the cancer spike we are going to have in this country over cheap Chinese goods?

Now extrapolate that over the fact that all of these new cities are being built down stream of the contaminants and raw sewage being dumped into the rivers. The cost of dealing with horrible health problems of significant segments of the largest population in the world is going to be staggering.

It is Mao telling every one to build a foundry in their back yard and having a half a million deaths due to exploding furnaces, part two, excuse me; part deux.

 

[PraetorianND]

Why This Huge Chinese Mall Is Empty - Kaid Benfield - The Atlantic Cities

Biggest mall in the world... And it's empty.

 

[P.Richards68]

North Korea is a secret alien colony

 

[PraetorianND]

I also thought this article was interesting:

North Korea's labor camps are a real-life 'Hunger Games' - Los Angeles Times

 

[BobD]

 

[Ultimate Penn St. Hater]

Rodman is heading back to North Korea in August. Maybe this time he can put in a good word for the starving people.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...=bOX9EN8kb9lgMujt7Qv9ww&bvm=bv.45175338,d.dmg

 

[greyhammer90]

Rodman is heading back to North Korea in August. Maybe this time he can put in a good word for the starving people.

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...=bOX9EN8kb9lgMujt7Qv9ww&bvm=bv.45175338,d.dmg

Dude is an attention grabbing douche. I wouldn't be upset if he just stayed there.

 

[BobD]

Dennis "King of the Idiots" Rodman

Chris "King of Douche Bag talking heads" Cuomo


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[Ultimate Penn St. Hater]

Rodman should stay there. What a moron.

 

[ulukinatme]

Kinda sad that Charles presented such an eloquent interview, and in a few seconds Rodman just destroyed it. Obviously they knew Dennis could have a fiery response. It seemed like they didn't want him answering questions, he kept telling Charles that he "had this." I wouldn't say the reporter necessarily baited him though, as Charles mentioned, I think he just took the response to the next level and ruined what little momentum Charles had gained.

I will say that I've lost a lot of respect for Rodman. Despite being outlandish, I used to watch him a lot during the Bull's title runs. I was a poor shooter in basketball myself, but I tried to model my defensive game and rebounding after him. It's possible his relationship with "Our Dear Leader" and this basketball game could be some sort of goodwill gesture in a backhanded way for diplomacy or to change their perception of America...but it's more likely Rodman is still just trying to stir up controversy at the highest level.

 

[Me2SouthBend]

And I thought Rodman was baked years ago. Wow, what an idiot. If he stays, he could literally become their Secretary of State.

 

[T Town Tommy]

And I thought Rodman was baked years ago. Wow, what an idiot. If he stays, he could literally become their Secretary of State.

And Rodman is any different from our current Sec of State how...

 

[Irishnuke]

The thing I worry about most with the while North Korea situation is it will lead to more and more Dennis Rodman interviews. Just fade back into obscurity, Dennis.

 

[Irish#1]

It would be the US attacking for Japan. The Japanese only have a small protection force that only participates in UN actions on a very limited basis.

The don't have a real military.

BobD, thanks for your service. You have my admiration.

Yeah Japan learned their lesson a while back. Any type of a major attack by NK would be dealt with swiftly. Given our technology, we could create a minor or major strike without putting many troops in harms way.

Having said that, the nut job running NK learned from his crazy dad and appears to be a bigger nut job than his dad. I hope most of his noise is just posturing, but if it isn't, then he'll learn his lesson very quickly.

 

[Irish#1]

The thing I worry about most with the while North Korea situation is it will lead to more and more Dennis Rodman interviews. Just fade back into obscurity, Dennis.

If he'd put his dress back on, he'd be Jane Fonda.