'13 OH QB Malik Zaire (Notre Dame Early Enrollee)

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You're right, he played in 15 plays last year. I'm not trying to rag on Hendrix, he's had 3 years to learn the playbook and has obviously been unsuccessful. He no doubt has better physical tools than Tommy. If Golson doesn't get hurt this will all be a moot point. EG stays healthy and we will have no worries.
 

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Hendrix is an enigma. He clearly has more upside than Tommy and can make a lot more plays (which is why he was used against Stanford in 2011 and when we needed to score points against FSU in the following bowl game). Who knows how different the QB complexion at ND is if Hendrix EEs instead of Tommy?

With regards to Zaire, I think there is a 99.9% chance he doesn't play this year. The staff will want to redshirt him and I'm almost positive that he will personally want to redshirt so he has the best opportunity to be a multi-year starter. So what happens if Golson gets hurt? You'll see either Tommy or Hendrix or both. I'd imagine it would depend on the situation/opponent and progression of each QB.

What situation does Zaire get in short of every other QB getting hurt? Can't really think of any.
 
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And yet he has had 3 years years to leap Tommy and hasn't. He received 0 zero snaps last year. I'm all for him becoming a good backup to EG. I just don't think it will happen

Except he doesn't need to be better than Tommy, just Malik, in this scenario of burning Malik's redshirt.
 

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Hendrix is an enigma. He clearly has more upside than Tommy and can make a lot more plays (which is why he was used against Stanford in 2011 and when we needed to score points against FSU in the following bowl game). Who knows how different the QB complexion at ND is if Hendrix EEs instead of Tommy?

With regards to Zaire, I think there is a 99.9% chance he doesn't play this year. The staff will want to redshirt him and I'm almost positive that he will personally want to redshirt so he has the best opportunity to be a multi-year starter. So what happens if Golson gets hurt? You'll see either Tommy or Hendrix or both. I'd imagine it would depend on the situation/opponent and progression of each QB.

What situation does Zaire get in short of every other QB getting hurt? Can't really think of any.

Yep, I agree with all of this. Unless Zaire is the second coming of Mike Vick and we just can't keep him off the field, I don't think he plays (by the way, even Mike Vick redshirted). I agree, 99.9% chance he redshirts.

For those who are comparing Hendrix to Crist, saying he seems just not to get it, I would say I see why you are saying that, but I also want to point out that we haven't seen enough to say that conclusively, nor can we fairly infer it. In 2011, he was in his first year really practicing with the offense, having been on demo squad in 2010, and he was competing with two guys who were much more experienced in Rees and Crist. I don't think you can hold it against him that he didn't win the job. In 2012 spring practice, maybe you can say that he should have won it if he was going to win it, but now that we've seen how talented Golson is, how can we hold it against Hendrix that he didn't beat him out? Further, how can we hold it against Hendrix that Rees was the relief guy in 2012, with all the experience he had and Kelly's trust in him?

We've never seen Hendrix get extended playing time except in 2011 against Stanford (redshirt frosh, very inexperienced) and against Navy in 2012 (garbage time), so I think we just can't say what kind of player he is now, as a senior with three years in the program. I actually am pretty optimistic that, if we need him in 2013 (and I think we all hope we don't) he will be able to come in and be effective at QB.

So I agree with Lax, not much chance we see Malik in 2013. It's Golson > Rees (short term relief) OR Hendrix (long term relief) > Malik. Then in 2014, Malik likely gets the backup role.
 
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Except he doesn't need to be better than Tommy, just Malik, in this scenario of burning Malik's redshirt.

Buster, where did I specifically say that Zaire would be Golson's backup? I didn't. Since this whole theoretical scenario would require Everett to become injured, what are you arguing? I haven't been the biggest Tommy Rees supporter as a starter. If you think for one second that TR won't back up Golson this year, than you clearly haven't watched the last 3 years under BK, which I know isn't the case. Hendrix will not get more snaps than TR as back up next year if both are healthy.
 
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Buster, where did I specifically say that Zaire would be Golson's backup? I didn't. Since this whole theoretical scenario would require Everett to become injured, what are you arguing? I haven't been the biggest Tommy Rees supporter as a starter. If you think for one second that TR won't back up Golson this year, than you clearly haven't watched the last 3 years under BK, which I know isn't the case. Hendrix will not get more snaps than TR as back up next year if both are healthy.

I don't think Buster was implying you at all. The previous few pages have been dedicated to whether Malik would be #2 or redshirt hinging on EGs health and since GK is leaving. Buster was most likely continuing that train of thought.
 

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You're right, he played in 15 plays last year. I'm not trying to rag on Hendrix, he's had 3 years to learn the playbook and has obviously been unsuccessful. He no doubt has better physical tools than Tommy. If Golson doesn't get hurt this will all be a moot point. EG stays healthy and we will have no worries.

To be fair, he's smart. I doubt he can't handle the playbook, but knowing it and applying it are differently. Some people are really smart and can understand anything, but it doesn't mean they can figure it out on the go.

This is a weird scenario, but follow me. If plays were staged and lasted 30 seconds rather than 5 seconds, I believe Hendrix could make the correct call, correct read, and correct decision every time. But just because you're smart doesn't mean football and the required reactions come naturally. If you can apply the knowledge, that's when it clicks for a QB. When you know all of the right reads and you can apply them in a split second. Doesn't make Hendrix or any other QB less intelligent, playbook-wise, it's just not as natural as it is for, I hate to say it, Tommy Rees.
 

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I think it'll be a Tommy/Hendy system.. for at least next year. Although, I'd be good with throwing Malik in the fire early.
 

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He's good..not ready for this. @Michigan @Purdue @MichiganSt the Oklahoma. Brutal four game stretch early in the season for a true freshman. Unfortunately it's Tommy Time this year in South Bend.
 

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Has to be Malik's time. Our defense can keep us in games this year while he continues to grow. Tommy can be the "closer.". We just did the same thing in 2012. It would be worse for the future of the program to wait.
 

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With how many QBs we will need to sign this year and next, we might as well play Malik.
 
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Can ppl please stop talking **** on Tommy?

Nobody's said anything bad about Tommy on this thread.

IDK, Malik has a really slow release. Add that to being a true freshman = disaster in most cases.
 

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This.

If EG goes down pre-season, then I agree it's probably open competition ... but I think Hendrix is more likely to win the job than Malik.

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I like Malik, I'm just not ready to give him the reins, but then again, this is why I'm not the Head Football Coach at Notre Dame.
 

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#TeamMalik

But in reality, Rees or Hendrix better show up this year. Hendo has a lot of talent and hopefully he can prove it. Tommy is a proven winner, but won't propel this team that Hendo or Golson can.
 

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Nobody's said anything bad about Tommy on this thread.

IDK, Malik has a really slow release. Add that to being a true freshman = disaster in most cases.

True, but in college release time isn't as crucial. (E.g., Tim Tebow). If you can keep the routes simple (a tough one for Kelly, obviously...) and have a bit of a run game it shouldn't be too hard.
 

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I'm split between him and Rees.

I want Zaire because he resembles Golson the most and he is now the future. But then I like Rees' experience
 

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I'm split between him and Rees.

I want Zaire because he resembles Golson the most and he is now the future. But then I like Rees' experience

I just want to keep the program moving forward. Whichever QB can do that, I'll stand behind.
 
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