'14 CA QB Brandon Dawkins (Arizona Verbal)

[KyfightingIrish36]

I anticipate this tread will get a lot more attention now with Gunner gone.

 

[clashmore_mike]

Why two QBs? Golson, Kiel, Zaire, a 2014 QB and possibly Hendrix. Unless you think there will be a transfer.

I don't anticipate a transfer

 

[UmphreakDomer]

I don't anticipate a transfer

i hope your crow was fully cooked.

just kidding mike. i got nothing but respect for you.

 

[Pa Golden Tate Fan]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>With that being said - feature on <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23NotreDame">#NotreDame</a>'s lone offered QB in 2014, Brandon Dawkins, by @<a href="https://twitter.com/bartonsimmons">bartonsimmons</a> (VIP) <a href="http://t.co/hCOMEYvQP4" title="http://bit.ly/ZiIKCx">bit.ly/ZiIKCx</a></p>— Jason Sapp (@BGI_JasonSapp) <a href="https://twitter.com/BGI_JasonSapp/status/309852137662324737">March 8, 2013</a></blockquote>
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[clashmore_mike]

i hope your crow was fully cooked.

just kidding mike. i got nothing but respect for you.

Lol my post was after the news of gunner. Should have used italics.

 

[STLDomer]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>With that being said - feature on <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23NotreDame">#NotreDame</a>'s lone offered QB in 2014, Brandon Dawkins, by @<a href="https://twitter.com/bartonsimmons">bartonsimmons</a> (VIP) <a href="http://t.co/hCOMEYvQP4" title="http://bit.ly/ZiIKCx">bit.ly/ZiIKCx</a></p>— Jason Sapp (@BGI_JasonSapp) <a href="https://twitter.com/BGI_JasonSapp/status/309852137662324737">March 8, 2013</a></blockquote>
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Already posted by GITF

 

[UmphreakDomer]

Lol my post was after the news of gunner. Should have used italics.

i knew it was close. i should've known you were being sarcastic. i thought you had a momentary loss of bodily functions or something. lol!

 

[Pa Golden Tate Fan]

Already posted by GITF

My bad thanks.

 

[EddytoNow]

Gotta get at least one quarterback every year, sometimes two. Kiel's transfer illustrates why this is necessary. Quarterbacks are particularly prone to transferring if they aren't starters. It's hard to go back to just being a member of the team when you've been told all the way through high school that you're something special. But if you want to play QB at a top BCS football program you have to be willing to compete for the job. The best accept the challenge and fight for the top spot. Kiel didn't want to do that. He will probably go on to a career for a losing team and load up on stats.

As a dual-threat QB, Dawkins looks to be an ideal fit for Notre Dame. He seems tailor-made for Kelly's offense. Hopefully, he is not scared away by competition.

 

[BleedBlueGold]

Can someone explain the theory behind taking two QBs in some years? I agree w/ taking one per year, but two occasionally seems extreme (unless you've missed on a year and are playing catch-up....but even then, if you have a capable starter and a capable backup, why worry?)

 

[arrowryan]

Can someone explain the theory behind taking two QBs in some years? I agree w/ taking one per year, but two occasionally seems extreme (unless you've missed on a year and are playing catch-up....but even then, if you have a capable starter and a capable backup, why worry?)

In 2014, we will have EG and Zaire coming back. Ress, Hendrix, and Kiel are gone. Idk about you, but 2 QBs sounds good to me

 

[BleedBlueGold]

In 2014, we will have EG and Zaire coming back. Ress, Hendrix, and Kiel are gone. Idk about you, but 2 QBs sounds good to me

Understood. But what are the chances that TR or AH get a 5th year? Then you potentially have EG, MZ, TR or AH, freshman.

I completely agree with the 1 per year theory. But two will just create another future log jam, bringing up another potential transfer situation, bringing us right back to where we started. I don't like the idea of that kind of cycle.

With the way this staff recruits, no one should expect them to go after project QBs. Imo, they'll be able to land one elite QB every year. Taking two is just asking for trouble. Again, my opinion.

 

[irishff1014]

In 2014, we will have EG and Zaire coming back. Ress, Hendrix, and Kiel are gone. Idk about you, but 2 QBs sounds good to me

For depth you are exactly right.

 

[irishff1014]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>With that being said - feature on <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23NotreDame">#NotreDame</a>'s lone offered QB in 2014, Brandon Dawkins, by @<a href="https://twitter.com/bartonsimmons">bartonsimmons</a> (VIP) <a href="http://t.co/hCOMEYvQP4" title="http://bit.ly/ZiIKCx">bit.ly/ZiIKCx</a></p>— Jason Sapp (@BGI_JasonSapp) <a href="https://twitter.com/BGI_JasonSapp/status/309852137662324737">March 8, 2013</a></blockquote>
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I have a feeling this will change.

 

[TheTurningPoint]

Understood. But what are the chances that TR or AH get a 5th year? Then you potentially have EG, MZ, TR or AH, freshman.

I completely agree with the 1 per year theory. But two will just create another future log jam, bringing up another potential transfer situation, bringing us right back to where we started. I don't like the idea of that kind of cycle.

With the way this staff recruits, no one should expect them to go after project QBs. Imo, they'll be able to land one elite QB every year. Taking two is just asking for trouble. Again, my opinion.

You are going to need two. Hendrix might not want to comeback and be 3rd in the rotation again. Rees graduates. So then you would have Golson, Zaire, and Dawkins (example). Therefore you are 2 plays away from not even having a backup QB. ND needs to bring in a Dawkins type kid in 2014, and then a Rees/Hendrix guy that knows he is coming to ND to get an education, but at the sametime will be a given a chance to win the job in 2 years after he arrives. I mean look at Dayne Crist time at ND, the unexpected happens, and ND needs to cover their bases for that. They got completely lucky with Zaire, in that he jumped on board before he blew up, and that the depth chart wasnt a concern.

 

[BleedBlueGold]

You are going to need two. Hendrix might not want to comeback and be 3rd in the rotation again. Rees graduates. So then you would have Golson, Zaire, and Dawkins (example). Therefore you are 2 plays away from not even having a backup QB. ND needs to bring in a Dawkins type kid in 2014, and then a Rees/Hendrix guy that knows he is coming to ND to get an education, but at the sametime will be a given a chance to win the job in 2 years after he arrives. I mean look at Dayne Crist time at ND, the unexpected happens, and ND needs to cover their bases for that. They got completely lucky with Zaire, in that he jumped on board before he blew up, and that the depth chart wasnt a concern.

If this is the goal, them I completely understand. However, if the staff goes after two highly regarded QBs, then it will only result in another transfer (more often than not).

IF Rees doesn't play this year, what are the chances he comes back for a 5th and the staff sticks to only recruiting one QB this year? I like EG, MZ, TR, freshman better than EG, MZ, freshman, freshman. IF Tommy doesn't come back for a 5th, is EG, MZ, freshman, freshman really all that different to EG, MZ, freshman? I mean the staff can move over a player from a different position who has a QB background if depth is the only area of concern. It'd only be for one year as a stop-gap. I guess I'm just struggling with idea of using another scholarship (in an already small class) on a second QB when there are other options available.

 

[GoIrish41]

Understood. But what are the chances that TR or AH get a 5th year? Then you potentially have EG, MZ, TR or AH, freshman.

I completely agree with the 1 per year theory. But two will just create another future log jam, bringing up another potential transfer situation, bringing us right back to where we started. I don't like the idea of that kind of cycle.

With the way this staff recruits, no one should expect them to go after project QBs. Imo, they'll be able to land one elite QB every year. Taking two is just asking for trouble. Again, my opinion.

Can Rees even get a 5th year?

 

[BleedBlueGold]

Not if he plays this year, right? I was just tossing out a hypothetical scenario.

 

[dublinirish]

Can Rees even get a 5th year?

he played his true freshman year.

Hypotheically if he got buried in the depth chart this year and never got a snap then yes he could get a 5th.

 

[NDhoosier]

Hendrix has the 5th year option already. He sat out his freshman year.

 

[BGIF]

If this is the goal, them I completely understand. However, if the staff goes after two highly regarded QBs, then it will only result in another transfer (more often than not).

IF Rees doesn't play this year, what are the chances he comes back for a 5th and the staff sticks to only recruiting one QB this year? I like EG, MZ, TR, freshman better than EG, MZ, freshman, freshman. IF Tommy doesn't come back for a 5th, is EG, MZ, freshman, freshman really all that different to EG, MZ, freshman? I mean the staff can move over a player from a different position who has a QB background if depth is the only area of concern. It'd only be for one year as a stop-gap. I guess I'm just struggling with idea of using another scholarship (in an already small class) on a second QB when there are other options available.

Kiel's transfer would open up an additional slot which would be filled by a replacement QB for no change in the depth chart distribution.

Any former HS QB on the team that was moved to a different position isn't a viable Div 1 GameDay QB. They weren't moved because of a small difference in abilities.

 

[Pa Golden Tate Fan]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Video - 4-star QB Brandon Dawkins talks <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23NotreDame">#NotreDame</a> other interest at the Phoenix <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23RivalsCamp">#RivalsCamp</a> ($): <a href="http://t.co/Xc7sYzdmUr" title="http://bit.ly/13NMdA5">bit.ly/13NMdA5</a></p>— Irish Illustrated (@NDatRivals) <a href="https://twitter.com/NDatRivals/status/310799251238158337">March 10, 2013</a></blockquote>
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[DillonHall]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Video - 4-star QB Brandon Dawkins talks <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23NotreDame">#NotreDame</a> other interest at the Phoenix <a href="https://twitter.com/search/%23RivalsCamp">#RivalsCamp</a> ($): <a href="http://t.co/Xc7sYzdmUr" title="http://bit.ly/13NMdA5">bit.ly/13NMdA5</a></p>— Irish Illustrated (@NDatRivals) <a href="https://twitter.com/NDatRivals/status/310799251238158337">March 10, 2013</a></blockquote>
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Can you please stop posting these premium links if you're not going to give a summary?

 

[CanadalovesND]

Can you please stop posting these premium links if you're not going to give a summary?

The point is to bring it to the thread and member's attention, so that some one else whom happens to have a subscription to the referred site, can then post or summarize the article.

 

[DillonHall]

The point is to bring it to the thread and member's attention, so that some one else whom happens to have a subscription to the referred site, can then post or summarize the article.

I'm pretty sure people with prescriptions will eventually notice that there's an update. Posting these links just seems obnoxious to the people who actually pay for the info and are generous enough to share with us.

 

[Rack Em]

I'm pretty sure people with prescriptions will eventually notice that there's an update. Posting these links just seems obnoxious to the people who actually pay for the info and are generous enough to share with us.

I'm an II subscriber and don't have twitter. PA's posts help me because I don't spend 24/7 on the internet.

 

[Pa Golden Tate Fan]

Can you please stop posting these premium links if you're not going to give a summary?

To enter an image: click the square with the mountains and sun or moon or whatever that thing is and enter the link of your picture.

 

[Me2SouthBend]

I'm pretty sure people with prescriptions will eventually notice that there's an update. Posting these links just seems obnoxious to the people who actually pay for the info and are generous enough to share with us.

Actually, those w prescriptions may need help noticing things like this, thus the need for a prescription.

 

[DillonHall]

Actually, those w prescriptions may need help noticing things like this, thus the need for a prescription.

Haha good catch, I've got medicine on my mind

 

[KyfightingIrish36]

So lets just get back to the actual update.