'13 CA DT Eddie Vanderdoes (UCLA)

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BeauBenken

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You're all wrong. Once in a decade talents don't happen anymore.

Jaylon's ability to be an elite pass rusher and elite (for a linebacker) in pass coverage makes him a whole new breed though. I'm not sure I've ever seen anyone like Jaylon before.
 

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I woke up this morning and had to pinch myself...watched his film again and I agree. HELL YEAHHHHHHHH!

I like how we aren't "rebuilding" anymore, we are "reloading" now. With Day, Nix, Tuitt, Vanderdoes, Schwenke, Springmann, Jones, and possibly Rochell playing as a freshman. That is quality depth and they get after the quarterback. We night not even have to blitz any linebackers. Just send 3 or 4 linemen after him
 

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Yesterday was awesome and EV topped it off with his decision to be IRISH!!!!!!!!!! He can learn from one of the best in Nix and hopefully be able to get into the rotation next year.

I love this class!!!!!
 

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Smith is the most freakish LB I have ever seen. That's because he does everything so well. Vanderdoes is more versatile than Lynch but probably not as dominant a pass rusher. Time will certainly tell fellas but the future looks so much brighter to me with EV on board, and I was already looking into the sun!
 

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I like how we aren't "rebuilding" anymore, we are "reloading" now. With Day, Nix, Tuitt, Vanderdoes, Schwenke, Springmann, Jones, and possibly Rochell playing as a freshman. That is quality depth and they get after the quarterback. We night not even have to blitz any linebackers. Just send 3 or 4 linemen after him

Yup...we can go nose to nose with the "grind it out teams" and we can put serious pressure on the QB with the fruity "pitch and catch" teams. Also pumped about the OL prospects we brought on. The competitition at these positions will improve the product on the field!

Katie bar the door!
 
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I love this.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Eddie Vanderdoes picks Notre Dame. He is profoundly relieved and ecstatic and says "I love South Bend!"</p>— Joe Davidson (@SacBee_JoeD) <a href="https://twitter.com/SacBee_JoeD/status/299325405322682368">February 7, 2013</a></blockquote>
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His twitter has the shamrock helmet and a hash tag of #pissedof forgreatness

Don't tell me he hasn't seen tp's videos.
 
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No, I don't expect that either. I didn't work that well. I do expect him to contribute as freshman and start as a soph. But as a freshman I expect him to be able to play regardless of the down or distance.

Lynch excelled in situations. I didn't see Lynch displaying signs of growth into a complete DE. He was an undisciplined bull rusher. I didn't see him becoming an everydown player as he didn't seem to want to do what was required.

Time will tell ... with both players.

Agreed! Don't worry about "work"ing that. I have fat fingered plenty lately!

If you watch EV tape you notice how stout he is against the run. Not comparable to any recruit lately (better), and I admit I didn't see much Louis Nix tape from high school.

Also, you see EV occasionally running ball carriers down, crazy!
 

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Well, you're wrong. Lynch's pass-rushing ability doesn't come around 30x annually.



Neither of them are "once or twice in a decade" players. Vince Young, Orlando Pace, and Adrian Peterson are the type of player in that category.



They do different things, so what's the point in saying? Jones will get picked before Te'o, if that means something.



Minus Vince Young but add Bo Jackson, Herschel Walker, Barry Sanders, Deion Sanders and Randy Moss to your once a decade list. RGIII and Mike Vick maybe.

EV is rare in that he can carry 300 pounds and look trim, much like Tuitt. The level of quickness in these guys for carrying that much weight is mind boggling. What a wonderful 305 pound cherry on top of a phenomenal recruiting class sundae.


EV - you made these Irish eyes smile, much needed pick me up in a BS week personally (sick kids and admin BS driving me nuts at work).
 

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So I just watched that video and let me tell ya, he is exactly what ND looks for in a student athlete. Listen to Power Hour when Mike Frank interviews our commits. They are all so well spoken and very intelligent. I should listen to more of the interviews early in the year and I bet I could tell you whether or not which kids would fit in at the Dome. Just another outstanding member of the Fighting Irish!
 

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I hope I didn't give the impression that I'm not satisfied with EV. In fact, I'm much more satisfied with EV than I ever was with Lynch, due mostly to what appears to be a much better head on his shoulders, versatility, and positional value. At the same time, you can't sit here and tell me that EV is on the same level, strictly from a God-given physical ability standpoint, as Lynch. EV is an outrageous athlete with a ridiculous combination of size and quickness, but Lynch is a once or twice a decade type physical talent.

Yeah... you need to refine or remove the last part. One or twice in decade? He wasn't even close to a consensus 5:s:... much less the best player in his class... much less the best player at his position! Jadeveon Clowney is the closest thing we've seen to a "once in a long time" prospect coming out of HS recently... and he was in the same year as Lynch.

People are right that "once or twice in a decade" type guys basically don't exist anymore. The closest thing I've seen recently on the pro level is Calvin Johnson because no other WR has his blend of size/speed.
 

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I think you can add Julio Jones to once a decade talents. That dude is a freak. If Ryan would throw at him more, he would make himself look really good.
 

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I love when he said that one of the things he loved was rooming with ND students and future CEO's and not just football players. He sounds like he has a great attitude and will be a future star for the IRISH!
 

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I love when he said that one of the things he loved was rooming with ND students and future CEO's and not just football players. He sounds like he has a great attitude and will be a future star for the IRISH!

I also found that super interesting. Textbook example of how what makes ND different hurts us with some kids but helps us with other ones. Occasionally we can't take an AQM or Byron Marshall because of academics but at the same time we land a Corey Robinson, Jaylon Smith, Eddie Vanderdoes, etc. bin large part because of how our different approach appeals to them.
 

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I love when he said that one of the things he loved was rooming with ND students and future CEO's and not just football players. He sounds like he has a great attitude and will be a future star for the IRISH!

Pretty sure TJ Jones said the same thing in an interview recently. These kids clearly get how important it is to be a student first.
 

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When they were breaking him down as a player they said he might not get much heavier... But trade like 20 lbs of fat for muscle. He could get stronger AND faster.
 

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Video of the signing

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Sooooo did anyone else catch the part where he said he was thinking Bama as late as the night before (and I'm paraphrasing), but his parents reminded him about the academics??? A BIG THANK YOU TO MR. AND MRS. VANDERDOES!!!
 

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Eddie is left handed... Might throw off olineman by having a different dominant hand.

I might be over analyzing.

But for real, academics and parents save us again!
 

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I think Day, Vanderdoes and Rochell can fit better in a 43 front. Day is clearly a typical 43 three-technique, Vanderdoes is not a pure zero technique as Nix and Rochell can play in both fronts but i think he fits better in a 43. Just an opinion. Anyway i think they are great, great talents.
 

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In terms of size, imagine Jarron, Kona, Lou, and Eddie all lined up together.

Probably not the best combination... But freaking monstrous in size.
 
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I think Day, Vanderdoes and Rochell can fit better in a 43 front. Day is clearly a typical 43 three-technique, Vanderdoes is not a pure zero technique as Nix and Rochell can play in both fronts but i think he fits better in a 43. Just an opinion. Anyway i think they are great, great talents.

Yeah, I think we'll see more 4-3 in the future.

Sheldon Day, Jarron Jones, Rochell, and EV... All very young, very highly ranked DL. This is a great sign of where our recruiting priorities are.
 
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In terms of size, imagine Jarron, Stephon, Lou, and Eddie all lined up together.

Probably not the best combination... But freaking monstrous in size.

Fixed it for you. No need to imagine. It will be real in a matter of months.

Excellence is as Vanderdoes.
 

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On the near future of the Big Man [one old guy's opinion]:

1). Big Eddie will not start next year but he'll play a lot. We have two All-Americans and one All-American coming-to-be on that three-man Dline. Springmann and Schwenke will hold down the middle behind Irish Chocolate, so Eddie will be used at DE. At that position he will probably share the relief work minutes [mainly for Sheldon since Diaco doesn't like to sub for Tuitt much] with either Hounshell [who'll probably be stuck again behind Tuitt], Rochell, or Jones. All that will depend upon whether The Mighty Romeo becomes the violent monster yet that I believe he will. Upon reflection, this array of destroyers shows us how powerful ND is next year at Dline.

2). Comparisons to people like Aaron Lynch are not fruitful. Both players are going to be great, but with very different skill sets. Unlike others on this board, who maintain a useless hatred for Lynch, I don't, and instead see him as a "romantically-conflicted" immature young man, who will soon grow up to become an adult, a husband/father, and a kicka$$ NFL football player. Eddie seems to be FAR advanced from Aaron on very substantial maturity issues, probably attributable to a good "father presence" guiding his adolescence. By the way, I EXTREMELY admire and honor Aaron's mom, Alice, for doing all a mother could.

3). Eddie is going to be great because [paradoxically] he's quick. [Lynch is too]. Vanderdoes has the unteachable. He's quick and he's fast to the QB or RB. This, when combined with his size and proportions, makes him more like Nix than Lynch or Tuitt. What Eddie doesn't seem to have yet [from the film] is really powerful arm and hand strength. His base seems superb. Straight-on hits "stand him up" a bit, but his base doesn't go anywhere. He's getting by people more by out-quicking them and getting angle leverage than he is simply shedding them [like a Tuitt would do, or even Lynch to a degree]. This actually pleases me, as if the quickness is there [the God-given] but the upperbody strength needs to catch up [the Longo-able], then, unlike what some recruiting commentators claimed, Big Eddie DOES have quite a higher ceiling than he's already achieved. "A Year With Longo" is probably exactly what he needs.

4). Now I'll be curmudgeonly unpopular. I would not be unhappy to see the "Dutch Phuck" business dropped. It's unnecessary and doesn't even relate well with what the Big Man will be accomplishing as a DE for Notre Dame. Something like the "Flying Dutchman" or "The Dozer" [after Vander DOES], would be far more appropriate, civilized, and much less offensive for what seems to be a religious family.
 
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