Lennay Kekua, A Hoax!

phgreek · Jan 23, 2013

BGIF said:
I repped you for your moral compass. I'm sure you suffer no gimbal lock although you may gimble when you read this reply.

Gimble - to make a face, grimace.

all I can say is way to go BGIF

...TJ Jones says...."what a catch"

GEORGIA DOMER · Jan 23, 2013

So tired of people telling me he lied to try to win the Heisman. Texas A&M Aggies freshman QB Johnny Manziel arrested - ESPN Manziel lied also!!

ab2cmiller · Jan 23, 2013

GEORGIA DOMER said:
So tired of people telling me he lied to try to win the Heisman. Texas A&M Aggies freshman QB Johnny Manziel arrested - ESPN Manziel lied also!!

The difference is that the media feels that they were the ones that were lied to, while Manziel "only" lied to the police.

GoldenIsThyFame · Jan 23, 2013

Interestingly, this type of hoax is common in Samoan culture.

A Samoan Hoax // Culture Digitally

WakeUpEchoes · Jan 23, 2013

Checked and didn't see this posted. I'm sick of this as well, but again another piece of evidence to shut people up.

Manti Te'o hopes 1-800-FLOWERS receipt from arrangement he sent to funeral proves he was duped by 'fake girlfriend' Lennay Kekua - NY Daily News

SoDakDomer · Jan 23, 2013

There is a story on ESPN claiming they have AT&T phone records that supposedly show over 100's of calls to the number associated to Lennay.

WakeUpEchoes · Jan 23, 2013

SoDakDomer said:
There is a story on ESPN claiming they have AT&T phone records that supposedly show over 100's of calls to the number associated to Lennay.

Just saw that. I hope those records are legit.

I have lost all respect for the media. I can't listen to any of it. Worst part is, a majority of people are stupid, and their information is coming from stupid media representatives. It's a compounded problem that could haunt Manti for awhile.

Grahambo · Jan 23, 2013

Honest question:

How much more proof do people need to be convinced? I understand that not everybody will be convinced but damn.

I really don't remember seeing so much evidence piled onto the side of innocence like this ever before. I mean really. Even the flower receipts and phone records indicate he was telling the truth.

I mean, I've been on Manti's side the entire time and was convinced with less evidence simply because the evidence stacked against him was well, weak and pathetic at best.

Grahambo · Jan 23, 2013

This is interesting.

According to the Facebook page of Sportsbeat 960 (copy and pasted from their status):

"ESPN says in a New York Times article that the Te'o hoax story was tipped to them by Manti's agent Tom Condon. This is an agent wanting to control the story by going thru ESPN. ESPN couldn't nail down the story so they waited. Bing Bang Boom..Deadspin beat them to the punch and Condon lost control of the story. All he had to do is make Manti available to ESPN but he didn't. Why..that is the big question."

WakeUpEchoes · Jan 23, 2013

Grahambo said:
Honest question:

How much more proof do people need to be convinced? I understand that not everybody will be convinced but damn.

I really don't remember seeing so much evidence piled onto the side of innocence like this ever before. I mean really. Even the flower receipts and phone records indicate he was telling the truth.

I mean, I've been on Manti's side the entire time and was convinced with less evidence simply because the evidence stacked against him was well, weak and pathetic at best.

There is no amount of evidence that will be sufficient. We have become a "nation of haters." It is sickening.

I've honestly had to step back from the situation and stop talking about it altogether. I just don't have the mental energy to try and convince people, when they clearly are not rational.

Grahambo · Jan 23, 2013

Wait, so Te'o isn't the only one?? (sarcasm)

Washington Redskins duped by woman with fake online identity - NFL.com

WakeUpEchoes · Jan 23, 2013

Grahambo said:
Wait, so Te'o isn't the only one??

Washington Redskins duped by woman with fake online identity - NFL.com

Wow. Hadn't seen this.

I can't wait for Manti to get to the NFL. He will get close with another group of guys who will have his back, he will kick *** on the field, and everyone will shut up.

Golden_Domer · Jan 23, 2013

Grahambo said:
Wait, so Te'o isn't the only one?? (sarcasm)

Washington Redskins duped by woman with fake online identity - NFL.com

Just wanted to point out that Phillip Daniels is DaVaris' dad (as I'm sure most of you know). Considering his first hand experience with social media hoaxes and (I'm assuming) his first hand experiences with Te'o, I'd be interested to know his take on the Lennay hoax.

Ironman8 · Jan 23, 2013

darren rovell ‏@darrenrovell

ESPN's @JeremySchaap: Unverified phone records suggest Te'o was on phone w/person he thought was Kekua for 110 calls of more than an hour.

JughedJones · Jan 23, 2013

Jim Rome just talked about the phone records and called the perpetrators sick and twisted. Had Manti's back.

Then the local news came on and all they said was 'Manti Teo admitted to lying about his fake girlfriend.'

**** this. As Grahambo said, I've never seen so much evidence accumulated to prove someone innocent. People are just bound and determined to hate someone.

The major problem is that this has turned into a mainstream story and most, if not all of the new information that comes out is covered by the sports media which they never watch or listen to.

GoldenIsThyFame · Jan 23, 2013

.... patiently waiting for Deadspin headline, "Te'o only talked to "girlfriend" 110 times in 2 years? CLICK HERE!"

gcashwell · Jan 23, 2013

JughedJones said:
Jim Rome just talked about the phone records and called the perpetrators sick and twisted. Had Manti's back.

Then the local news came on and all they said was 'Manti Teo admitted to lying about his fake girlfriend.'

**** this. As Grahambo said, I've never seen so much evidence accumulated to prove someone innocent. People are just bound and determined to hate someone.

The major problem is that this has turned into a mainstream story and most, if not all of the new information that comes out is covered by the sports media which they never watch or listen to.

Both stories are equally true. He was duped by his "girlfriend". He also continued the lie after the 6th. He admitted as much to Couric.

JughedJones · Jan 23, 2013

GoldenIsThyFame said:
.... patiently waiting for Deadspin headline, "Te'o only talked to "girlfriend" 110 times in 2 years? CLICK HERE!"

Rome said there were over 1000 calls, 110 calls that lasted more than an hour.... over a 10 month period.

Ironman8 · Jan 23, 2013

GoldenIsThyFame said:
.... patiently waiting for Deadspin headline, "Te'o only talked to "girlfriend" 110 times in 2 years? CLICK HERE!"

Only 110 calls of an HOUR OR MORE. I can't even imagine how many other, shorter calls there were.

What the hell is wrong with the woman who would speak on the phone with a man for over an hour 110 times (!) just for the sake of a practical joke or ruse. Just don't understand how you could live you life like that.

Whiskeyjack · Jan 23, 2013

gcashwell said:
Both stories are equally true. He was duped by his "girlfriend". He also continued the lie after the 6th. He admitted as much to Couric.

He knew Kekua wasn't dead after the 6th, but he didn't know it was a hoax until much later. And since Kekua claimed to have faked her death to avoid drug dealers, it's not clear he lied out of self-interest. We'll have to wait for the Couric interview to get more details.

But "Te'o lied" makes a better headline.

GoldenIsThyFame · Jan 23, 2013

Now this is a headline, SIAP

Manti Te'o is Longfellow Deeds in a gold helmet -- college football - ESPN

JughedJones · Jan 23, 2013

GoldenIsThyFame said:
Now this is a headline, SIAP

Manti Te'o is Longfellow Deeds in a gold helmet -- college football - ESPN

Wow.

That's actually a pretty touching article.

WakeUpEchoes · Jan 23, 2013

Whiskeyjack said:
He knew Kekua wasn't dead after the 6th, but he didn't know it was a hoax until much later. And since Kekua claimed to have faked her death to avoid drug dealers, it's not clear he lied out of self-interest. We'll have to wait for the Couric interview to get more details.

But "Te'o lied" makes a better headline.

This is a really good point. I never thought about it like this.

Whiskeyjack · Jan 23, 2013

GoldenIsThyFame said:
Now this is a headline, SIAP

Manti Te'o is Longfellow Deeds in a gold helmet -- college football - ESPN

Brilliant analogy by Maisel:

"Mabel, that guy's either the dumbest, stupidest, the most imbecilic idiot in the world or he's the grandest thing alive. I can't make him out."

And then she says:

"Here's a guy that's wholesome and fresh. To us, he looks like a freak. … He's got goodness, Mabel. Do you know what that is? No, of course you don't. We've forgotten. We're too busy being smart alecks. Too busy in a crazy competition for nothing."

Deeds gave the money away, got the girl and returned to Vermont a hero. I don't know whether Te'o will become a hero again. We know he won't get the girl. But it seems pretty clear to me that he's got goodness. Capra made his last movie more than a half-century ago. He has been dead for more than two decades. But I am betting he would have recognized Te'o.

Who'saWildManNow · Jan 23, 2013

ESPN's @JeremySchaap: Unverified phone records suggest Te'o was on phone w/person he thought was Kekua for 110 calls of more than an hour.

The person on the other end of those phone calls has major issues.. or is just an incredible actor. Either way, IMO they are a huge POS.

phork · Jan 23, 2013

Maybe that person ended up actually falling for him on some level? Love is weird.

NDohio · Jan 23, 2013

phork said:
Maybe that person ended up actually falling for him on some level? Love is weird.

I kinda thought the same thing. They had to have become somewhat attached to hang on the phone for that long.

I heard some talking head on radio say that he refuses to believe Manti 'cause he is tired of being duped and doesn't want to be again.

Like it's Manti's fault all this happened?

We_Are_ND · Jan 23, 2013

I remember after all the evidence was out, people still said all we need are the phone records......Well we have them. Lots of them. What will anyone say now? Other than just make jokes? I'm so glad this is over. Still wish he didn't do this interview though.

WakeUpEchoes · Jan 23, 2013

Local radio in Detroit is saying phone records aren't enough - need to know what was going on on the phone, what was said, etc. Also said the phone records were on a spreadsheet and easily doctored.

IrishLax · Jan 23, 2013

Hey having trouble tracking this down with a quick Google search but what are the names of the three people supposedly involved in the hoax?

I know there is Tuiasosopo but what was the girl's name again?

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