'13 CA S Max Redfield (Notre Dame Signed LOI)

[Bogtrotter07]

Last I heard they applied for and submitted all the paperwork for a sixth year. They are waiting for the NCAA to adjudicate their request. Ain't that shiit Kray?

 

[GBdomer]

Last I heard they applied for and submitted all the paperwork for a sixth year. They are waiting for the NCAA to adjudicate their request. Ain't that shiit Kray?

ain't it jay???? I doubt it happens and most around the program doubt it happens. Good to have you back brother the bash brothers are back.

 

[Irish YJ]

Last I heard they applied for and submitted all the paperwork for a sixth year. They are waiting for the NCAA to adjudicate their request. Ain't that shiit Kray?

Per his twitter, he won't know anything until sometime after the NC..

 

[NDhoosier]

I see your guys' point, but I disagree. I think Collinsworth will play a ton of special teams and play in a backup role, but I think Farley has played great this year and certainly better than anything we have seen from Collinsworth (not his fault, but the truth). Baratti got time in this year and will be a more athletic version of Collinsworth next year. Add a possible 6th year for Slaughter (would be most excellent), Prosise and a possible addition of Redfield... and I don't see Collinsworth starting as a probable scenario. Not completely out of the question, but I would think that the odds are currently against him.

Did you forget that Collinsworth was going to be the starter next to Slaughter before his injury? Everything was said that Motta and Collinsworth were almost identical. Collinsworth may be the best Safety on the team next year. I wouldnt write him off so easily wooly. Personally I dont see Redfield getting much PT next year, I just think a lot of you have fallen under the shiny new toy syndrome.

People that are ahead of him
CB - Jackson, Russell, Wood
S - Collinsworth, Farley, Shumate, and then there are plenty of athletes behind that could get a major improvement in the off-season like Baratti and Prosise.

I am sorry, but DBs are stacked and I dont see Redfield getting much PT unless someone gets hurt. But that is saying something about our program when you can say an athlete like Redfield may not see the field. DB was considered a weakness for us this year, next year, it may become a strength.

 

[woolybug25]

Did you forget that Collinsworth was going to be the starter next to Slaughter before his injury? Everything was said that Motta and Collinsworth were almost identical. Collinsworth may be the best Safety on the team next year. I wouldnt write him off so easily wooly. Personally I dont see Redfield getting much PT next year, I just think a lot of you have fallen under the shiny new toy syndrome.

Link?

Also, if you read my comment, I wasn't implying that Redfield would start. In fact, he was the last one I mentioned.

 

[GBdomer]

Link?

Also, if you read my comment, I wasn't implying that Redfield would start. In fact, he was the last one I mentioned.

Yes I would love to see this link. Collinsworth was going to start in the nickel I think is what you meant. Also wooly I agree with everything you said up there.

 

[Bogtrotter07]

ain't it jay???? I doubt it happens and most around the program doubt it happens. Good to have you back brother the bash brothers are back.

De nada! It is good to be back, and you too; did I hear you took a pequeño siesta?

 

[Emcee77]

There are so many promising players in our secondary I feel like I have no idea how the depth chart is going to go. I certainly wouldn't have guessed last summer that Eilar Hardy would be on demo squad this year and Matthias Farley would be a starter and every-down player. I'm not even going to attempt to figure that mess out until we get into spring practice, or hear more about how some of the youngsters are doing in bowl practice.

I think it's safe to say that a lot of guys will play though. Kelly loves to rotate players.

 

[GBdomer]

De nada! It is good to be back, and you too; did I hear you took a pequeño siesta?

What is that?

 

[Bogtrotter07]

What is that?

Didn't you take a quick break, and what do you think about Hardy next year?

 

[Whiskeyjack]

Oy. I didn't mean to toss a grenade and disappear.

To explain my skepticism of Redfield's ability to quickly pass Collinsworth, Shumate or Farley on the depth chart:

• Collinsworth was slated to be a starter this season before his injury; he's earned Diaco's highest level of praise (lycanthropic); and he'll be the only senior in our secondary next season. With Motta graduating, someone has to provide veteran leadership, and Collinsworth is the most likely to provide it.
• Shumate was almost as highly touted as Redfield coming out of highschool, and he saw lots of playing time this season at the Nickel.
• Farley's athleticism and physicality are commonly underrated, and he's started at FS all season for arguably the best defense in the country.

That's a lot of talent and experience to overcome. Since our starting Nickel under Kelly has almost always been our #3 S, that means Redfield will have to surpass one of them. Of the three, he's most likely to pass either Collinsworth or Farley. Maybe Collinsworth doesn't have the athleticism to hang, or maybe Redfield ends up having better instincts and ball skills than Farley... it's possible. But I wouldn't bet on a freshman, even a 5, to pass either of those guys easily.

And the fact that I'm able to say that about two converted 3 WRs is ridiculous. The player development we've seen under this staff is absurd.

 

[woolybug25]

What is that?

Don't worry, I know spanish....i'll translate:

"You're welcome. It is good to be back, and you too; did I hear you took a little blonde to home and slept with her?"


You can answer:

"No, me llevó a su casa y golpeó su."

(no, I took her home and banged her)

 

[STLDomer]

IMO w/ Slaughter:
CB: Jackson Wood
CB: Russell Atkinson
FS: Slaughter Farley Baratti
SS: Collinsworth Shumate Redfield
Nickel: Shumate Redfield

IMO w/o Slaughter:
CB: Jackson Wood
CB: Russell Atkinson
FS: Farley Baratti/Redfield
SS: Collinsworth Shumate Redfield
Nickel: Shumate Redfield

So I concur with those saying Redfield probably won't play very much (barring injury) and Collinsworth will start, though I do think Shumate could start at SS and Collinsworth be at the Nickel, we haven't really seen Collinsworth play that much but he sounds good to go.

 

[Emcee77]

Oy. I didn't mean to toss a grenade and disappear.

To explain my skepticism of Redfield's ability to quickly pass Collinsworth, Shumate or Farley on the depth chart:

• Collinsworth was slated to be a starter this season before his injury; he's earned Diaco's highest level of praise (lycanthropic); and he'll be the only senior in our secondary next season. With Motta graduating, someone has to provide veteran leadership, and Collinsworth is the most likely to provide it.
• Shumate was almost as highly touted as Redfield coming out of highschool, and he saw lots of playing time this season at the Nickel.
• Farley's athleticism and physicality are commonly underrated, and he's started at FS all season for arguably the best defense in the country.

That's a lot of talent and experience to overcome. Since our starting Nickel under Kelly has almost always been our #3 S, that means Redfield will have to surpass one of them. Of the three, he's most likely to pass either Collinsworth or Farley. Maybe Collinsworth doesn't have the athleticism to hang, or maybe Redfield ends up having better instincts and ball skills than Farley... it's possible. But I wouldn't bet on a freshman, even a 5, to pass either of those guys easily.

And the fact that I'm able to say that about two converted 3 WRs is ridiculous. The player development we've seen under this staff is absurd.

LOL. We should have a betting thread on who will be the next player that Diaco will anoint "werewolf." Max, Anzalone, Shumate, Day, Jaylon, Russell, Jackson, Deeb (likeliest candidates just off the top of my head) ... or the field?

 

[felkey72]

As crazy as it sounds even without Manti our defense may be better next year then it is this years. DBs with more experience quality depth at every position besides ILB. We should also be able to dial up a few more blitzes next year with what we have coming back in the secondary. Future looks bright under the Golden Dome

 

[quarterback1010]

IMO w/ Slaughter:

CB: Jackson Wood
CB: Russell Atkinson
FS: Slaughter Farley Baratti
SS: Collinsworth Shumate Redfield

Nickel: Shumate Redfield

IMO w/o Slaughter:

CB: Jackson Wood
CB: Russell Atkinson
FS: Farley Baratti/Redfield
SS: Collinsworth Shumate Redfield
Nickel: Shumate Redfield

So I concur with those saying Redfield probably won't play very much (barring injury) and Collinsworth will start, though I do think Shumate could start at SS and Collinsworth be at the Nickel, we haven't really seen Collinsworth play that much but he sounds good to go.

I think you're right. Maybe it's a good idea to redshirt him? I hate the sound of that but maybe it'd be best.

 

[woolybug25]

I think you're right. Maybe it's a good idea to redshirt him? I hate the sound of that but maybe it'd be best.

I'll eat my bathrobe (entire thing) if Redfield redshirts here.

 

[pkt77242]

I'll eat my bathrobe (entire thing) if Redfield redshirts here.

If he redshirts, I want a video of this.

 

[NDPhilly]

Redfield is going to play and play a lot next year IMO. In 2014 I think our starting safeties will be Redfield at FS and Shumate at SS.

 

[GBdomer]

Haha Max Redfield will be a free safety not strong. He also won't be red shirting

 

[sparkyND]

Redfield is going to play and play a lot next year IMO. In 2014 I think our starting safeties will be Redfield at FS and Shumate at SS.

I would be drooling at the prospect of this happening. I figure we would also get some exciting prospects from future classes waiting in the wings as well. I love winning and the current direction our program is headed in.

 

[STLDomer]

Haha Max Redfield will be a free safety not strong. He also won't be red shirting

Long term I agree but if he were to play next year at Safety and Slaughter comes back then he won't see the field at FS (3rd String at best (passes Baratti), but likely 4th String). If Slaughter doesn't come back I think he primarily trains at FS though.

 

[GBdomer]

Long term I agree but if he were to play next year at Safety and Slaughter comes back then he won't see the field at FS (3rd String at best (passes Baratti), but likely 4th String). If Slaughter doesn't come back I think he primarily trains at FS though.

I agree but he is a ball hawking free safety while Shumate is built like a line backer and much better in run support. I am almost certain Slaughter won't be back

 

[D-BOE34]

Sooooo last off season we were worried about DB's/CB's ... Now we are talking who will start over who? I love it! The first year guys, 6th year, 4th year, blah blah blah.... were in great shape doods! Of course, we all know that. I am just stating it...#carryon

 

[NDdomer2]

I saw CJ off some of those lists. And our special teams should see an increase next year with the depth we are building at safety and linebacker.

 

[rtrn2glory]

idk if its been stated, but i don't think that max is a good enough tackler to play the nickel. plus doesn't he need to be good in man to man to play the nickel and i've not seen any highlights or indication that he's good in man coverage, maybe i'm wron. tackling is his weakness right now, which will improve with coaching and experience. i see him getting playing time in the two deep secondary early his freshman year if he's as good as i think he is.

 

[PLACforever]

idk if its been stated, but i don't think that max is a good enough tackler to play the nickel. plus doesn't he need to be good in man to man to play the nickel and i've not seen any highlights or indication that he's good in man coverage, maybe i'm wron. tackling is his weakness right now, which will improve with coaching and experience. i see him getting playing time in the two deep secondary early his freshman year if he's as good as i think he is.

This

 

[Grahambo]

Haha Max Redfield will be a free safety not strong. He also won't be red shirting

Think I'm off base if I see him in the mold of Kenny Phillips?

 

[BleedBlueGold]

Surprised no one has mentioned the possibility of Max playing WR next year if he can't beat out the other safeties. I don't see him redshirting. He'll get on the field somehow. FWIW, I don't foresee him playing WR at ND. I love the idea of Max and Shumate back there as our safeties. I'm just pointing out a very slight possibility.

 

[Me2SouthBend]

Hi, Buzz Killington here. Doesn't he actually need to commit before getting slotted in the depth chart. Have a nice day. Oh yeah, Come on down Max!