Hornets changing nickname to Pelicans

[ShawneeIrish]

VooDoo has a better ring...guessing they didn't want to deal with a mascot controversy.

Who could pick between these two:

Actually Voodoo does have a nice ring to it

 

[AvesEvo]

Pelicans are scary *** birds, this is a good name.
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[dshans]

In keeping with the voodoo theme:

Mojo
Gris-Gris

To head into the political/historical realm:

Kingfish

Culinary:

Jambalaya
Gumbo
Etoufee

 

[ACamp1900]

Multiple Jobu references in one week and the week just started... things are straight rollin

 

[Andy in Sactown]

New Orleans Levy's

New Orleans Looters

New Orleans Bourbon Street Smells Like Rotten Fruit and Urine

and my all time favorite:

New Orleans Hurricanes


And yet somehow The New Orleans I Blame Everything on Katrinas seems most appropriate.


Yes, I lived there (Katrina-era). Not a fan of the State of Louisiana? You could say that.

 

[woolybug25]

New Orleans Hurricanes

As much as that sounds catchy to a person living in California, it's probably too soon for someone living in New Orleans.

 

[Andy in Sactown]

As much as that sounds catchy to a person living in California, it's probably too soon for someone living in New Orleans.

I edited my post, dude. I hate that place.

 

[Redbar]

New Orleans Levy's

New Orleans Looters

New Orleans Bourbon Street Smells Like Rotten Fruit and Urine

and my all time favorite:

New Orleans Hurricanes


And yet somehow The New Orleans I Blame Everything on Katrinas seems most appropriate.


Yes, I lived there (Katrina-era). Not a fan of the State of Louisiana? You could say that.

Levee's require constant maintenance, their job is to contain a waterway that is constantly moving, they are trying to hold back nature. Post 9/11 levee's were evaluated on a cost/benefit basis, in those calculations Iraq seemed like a better place to spend our money.

Some people looted for survival, a VERY few looted because there was pandemonium and they could.

Bourbon street does smell bad, most old port cities have an area or district that catered to the sailors and transients. The city of New Orleans has been called the most important city in the formation of the United States as a world power, and the Battle of New Orleans the most important singular battle in the formation of the U.S. New Orleans is unique and therefore not for everyone, it is unlike any other place in the country. Because it is a major port city it has an amalgamation of people and culture, maybe this doesn't suit you, but whether you spent some time there or not, whether you had a bad experience there or not, your comments about the city and the people were ignorant.

 

[HereComeTheIrish]

Levee's require constant maintenance, their job is to contain a waterway that is constantly moving, they are trying to hold back nature. Post 9/11 levee's were evaluated on a cost/benefit basis, in those calculations Iraq seemed like a better place to spend our money.

Some people looted for survival, a VERY few looted because there was pandemonium and they could.

Bourbon street does smell bad, most old port cities have an area or district that catered to the sailors and transients. The city of New Orleans has been called the most important city in the formation of the United States as a world power, and the Battle of New Orleans the most important singular battle in the formation of the U.S. New Orleans is unique and therefore not for everyone, it is unlike any other place in the country. Because it is a major port city it has an amalgamation of people and culture, maybe this doesn't suit you, but whether you spent some time there or not, whether you had a bad experience there or not, your comments about the city and the people were ignorant.

Brah, I can understand your concerns of other's opinions of New Orleans. You've made that perfectly clear with your comments and I can appreciate that, but the city does reek of ****. Sorry to break it to you and perhaps you're used the the smell of urine but when a visitor comes to town to spend money, one probably doesn't want to smell pee upon entering the city. Just an outsider's perspective. it's just nasty.

 

[Rack Em]

New Orleans Flash(ers)

 

[irishog77]

Shemales

 

[Redbar]

Brah, I can understand your concerns of other's opinions of New Orleans. You've made that perfectly clear with your comments and I can appreciate that, but the city does reek of ****. Sorry to break it to you and perhaps you're used the the smell of urine but when a visitor comes to town to spend money, one probably doesn't want to smell pee upon entering the city. Just an outsider's perspective. it's just nasty.

If you read what I typed, the first thing I said in part three was Bourbon Street does smell bad. So...no news flash there and no, I am not used to the smell of urine. I am sure there is an area in your town or Sactown that doesn't smell great, I hate to break this to you but Bourbon Street is not all of New Orleans it is a street in New Orleans. The difference between Bourbon Street and your foul part of town is that Bourbon Street smells bad BECAUSE of the people that come to spend money in our town. People come here and indulge in excess and they do things they wouldn't or couldn't do in Cleveland, then they sober up the next morning and say it stinks here, then their buddy shows them the spot where they puked behind the bushes and pi$$ed themself. I'm not bitter, do what you wanna, we like it that way, just don't get sanctimonious on the plane home.

I honestly do not know any New Orleanians that spend much time on Bourbon Street after they turn 21. Other than workers it is entirely dedicated to tourists from places like Cleveland and Sactown or indigents, most of which, I assure you are from other parts of the country as well.

 

[BGIF]

But seriously, the Pelicans? That's what they're going with?

You scoff but Hanes is negotiating for exclusive rights as offical supplier of The Pelican Brief.

 

[dshans]

You scoff but Hanes is negotiating for exclusive rights as offical supplier of The Pelican Brief.

A novel idea. With Julia Roberts and Denzel Washington modeling them in ads?

 

[Andy in Sactown]

Levee's require constant maintenance, their job is to contain a waterway that is constantly moving, they are trying to hold back nature. Post 9/11 levee's were evaluated on a cost/benefit basis, in those calculations Iraq seemed like a better place to spend our money.

Some people looted for survival, a VERY few looted because there was pandemonium and they could.

Bourbon street does smell bad, most old port cities have an area or district that catered to the sailors and transients. The city of New Orleans has been called the most important city in the formation of the United States as a world power, and the Battle of New Orleans the most important singular battle in the formation of the U.S. New Orleans is unique and therefore not for everyone, it is unlike any other place in the country. Because it is a major port city it has an amalgamation of people and culture, maybe this doesn't suit you, but whether you spent some time there or not, whether you had a bad experience there or not, your comments about the city and the people were ignorant.

I enjoyed your post and agree with just about everything except the last sentence. My opinion is not born out of ignorance; I was there. I think the man with the beautiful mane hit the nail on the head...

 

[Redbar]

I enjoyed your post and agree with just about everything except the last sentence. My opinion is not born out of ignorance; I was there. I think the man with the beautiful mane hit the nail on the head...

I never said your opinion was born out of ignorance, I just think it was an ignorant thing to say; born out of insensitivity. I guess being there can affect people both ways. While our mulleted friend is frequently spot on, his comments on this one are not his most impressive work. See post 42.

 

[NOLAIrish]

I enjoyed your post and agree with just about everything except the last sentence. My opinion is not born out of ignorance; I was there. I think the man with the beautiful mane hit the nail on the head...

It's definitely not for everyone. I don't know anyone who lives down here and visits Bourbon regularly. Lots to love about this place, though. I've lived all over the place now; haven't found anywhere I enjoy living as much as New Orleans. Warts and all.

Anyhow:

Brass and Voodoo had trademark issues, unfortunately. They'd announced early on that we shouldn't hold out hope for either one.

Don't think anyone from here is gonna be offended by the Katrina jokes. We make them, too. I was here during the storm (emergency staff; didn't just decide to ride out a major hurricane), was one of the people you saw riding through the city on boats looking for people, saw plenty of things I'll never unsee; I'm not offended.

The only one that was ugly was: "New Orleans Idiots-for-living-in-a-city-below-sea-level-on-a-major-body-of-water-who-then-want-charity-when-it-floods." Disaster relief funds are distributed all over the Gulf South and up the East Coast. You get them up north after bad storms, in central US after tornadoes, in the Southwest during wildfires and heat waves, and on the West Coast for earthquakes. Populations the world-over favor the coasts and that trend is accelerating. And some of it was our own fault. Which is a burden we've paid for many times over and are still paying for today and almost certainly will still be paying for as long as I'm alive. Were there people whinging and asking for their hand-out? Sure, a small minority. Most of us were working on putting things back together. It was neither easy nor fun: I know I was without power for most of the winter (the oven was our heater; the gas came back mercifully quickly); I had no home in New Orleans until the late spring (several of us crammed into a house in Uptown that had only gotten a few inches; we also lived in a "demo" apartment in one of the complexes in BR when we didn't need to be in NO); I lost two friends in the storm and spent the winter helping the wife of one of them pick up the pieces and close down his practice; and I had it easier than an awful lot of people. I don't care about people poking fun; I find most of the jokes pretty clever. Belittling us is a horse of an entirely different color.

 

[johnnykillz]

Shemales

Griners.

 

[ShamrockOnHelmet]

The only one that was ugly was: "New Orleans Idiots-for-living-in-a-city-below-sea-level-on-a-major-body-of-water-who-then-want-charity-when-it-floods." I find most of the jokes pretty clever. Belittling us is a horse of an entirely different color.

Sorry brah, but most of us don't CHOOSE to live where nature wants to be. You get hit by a tornado - hey, freak thing and I'd love to help, wherever my tax dollars can. You live BELOW SEA LEVEL RIGHT NEXT TO THE SEA then you get what you deserve. You don't like that fact, then move - its your choice and I will never feel sorry for you.

Nobody should be putting things back together there. The dams should be leveled and allow nature to go where it wants to. The Atchafalaya has been destroyed thanks to people trying to "preserve" New Orleans. Not a fair trade. Shame.

 

[Redbar]

Sorry brah, but most of us don't CHOOSE to live where nature wants to be. You get hit by a tornado - hey, freak thing and I'd love to help, wherever my tax dollars can. You live BELOW SEA LEVEL RIGHT NEXT TO THE SEA then you get what you deserve. You don't like that fact, then move - its your choice and I will never feel sorry for you.

Nobody should be putting things back together there. The dams should be leveled and allow nature to go where it wants to. The Atchafalaya has been destroyed thanks to people trying to "preserve" New Orleans. Not a fair trade. Shame.

Umm, the problem with that is what do we do without the largest port system in the country by volume? We are the country we are because we have the largest contiguous body of arable land and a river system that allows us to deliver those products efficiently to the rest of the world. ( That is not to even mention the energy and petrochemical production that lines the river from Baton Rouge to the Gulf. )So we should just tell those farmers they'll lose access to world markets for 8 or 10 years while we reinvest in infrastructure, wharfs, elevators, refineries, plants, etc... The countless companies that rely and have investment on the river can just pick up and reinvest somewhere else, wherever and whenever the river decides to stabilize for a couple hundred years, because as soon as the river finds its new home it will start to do the same thing to it, that it has done to New Orleans. So in a couple hundred years your great grandson can climb up on his soapbox and tell the people of Atchafalaya they are idiots for living in a place below sea level. The problem with letting nature do what it wants to do in this case is that the most powerful country the world has ever known has been largely built on the Providence of said nature and being able to utilize it. Allowing it to do what it wants to do renders it extremely inefficient, not just for New Orleans, but for Indianapolis, DeMoines, Duluth, Chicago and D.C. Nobody down here wants anyone to feel sorry for them they just want people to realize that wherever they are, there is probably no other city in the country that has had a bigger impact on their standard of living and way of life. We just don't want people in Indiana to wake up on third base and think they hit a triple.

 

[Irish2155]

Brah, I can understand your concerns of other's opinions of New Orleans. You've made that perfectly clear with your comments and I can appreciate that, but the city does reek of ****. Sorry to break it to you and perhaps you're used the the smell of urine but when a visitor comes to town to spend money, one probably doesn't want to smell pee upon entering the city. Just an outsider's perspective. it's just nasty.

And you're from where, Cleveland?

 

[NOLAIrish]

Sorry brah, but most of us don't CHOOSE to live where nature wants to be. You get hit by a tornado - hey, freak thing and I'd love to help, wherever my tax dollars can. You live BELOW SEA LEVEL RIGHT NEXT TO THE SEA then you get what you deserve. You don't like that fact, then move - its your choice and I will never feel sorry for you.

Nobody should be putting things back together there. The dams should be leveled and allow nature to go where it wants to. The Atchafalaya has been destroyed thanks to people trying to "preserve" New Orleans. Not a fair trade. Shame.

Just a few things to add to what Redbar said.

First, I don't want your sympathy or your charity. The risk-benefit analysis worked for me then and still works for me today; but I recognize that I'm assuming a risk here. There's an argument about the available information at the time, but let's table that. I have no problem with people who have no sympathy when the improbable happens and I take a bath as a result of the risk I assumed. What I have a problem with is the schadenfreude expressed over the fact that the risk the city assumed came down against us.

Second, I don't live below sea level. Most of us don't. Never did. Two parts of the city fall below sea level: the northern edge along Lake Pontchartrain (what you've probably heard referred to as the Lower Ninth Ward and Lakeview) and a strip running through part of Central City. My house at the time was 4 feet above sea level; my current house is 6 feet above sea level. Additionally, almost all houses are built several feet off the ground -- a reaction to flood levels during Hurricane Betsy. The low-lying areas are overwhelmingly populated by extremely low-SES, poorly educated minorities and elderly, low-income whites. It's difficult to say they had any meaningful "choice" in where they lived. These were the people who your tax dollars went to to make whole again. The hurricane levees are for their benefit, as were the housing funding and FEMA trailers. The rest of us experienced flooding that would've affected any coastal community: storm surge and rain drove water from the lake, through the breached levees, through low-lying areas and into above-sea-level areas. If we didn't have the low-lying areas, the rest of the city would still have flooded; in fact, it would've happened sooner because we would not have had the lake-side levees to begin with. In general, New Orleans actually fares better in hurricanes than do other coastal cities because the levees raise the effective elevation of the city by 20-30 feet (depending on starting elevation), because the pumping system -- except in catastrophic failure -- drains the city more efficiently than any other in the country, and because city's water treatment system is the country's gold standard. During Isaac, for example, while both coastal and inland cities in the area were badly flooded, New Orleans experienced only minor street flooding.

Finally, you're conflating two issues regarding the Atchafalaya River Basin. The first is the system of upriver levees along the Mississippi River. The second is the system of river levees along the Atchafalaya River. If you dynamited the first, the Mississippi would slowly change its course and, in theory, eventually drain through the ARB. In the interim, the entire country would enjoy a massive spike in oil prices as about 60% of Louisiana's subterranean pipelines are greatly rerouted, including every one servicing LOOP/Galliano, which, by itself carries about an eighth of the national supply. That system of levees hasn't got a thing to do with the degredation of the ARB, though. For that you have to look at the Atchafalaya River levees. That system has cut off sedimentation in the basin and allowed for massive saltwater intrusion into the swamp. Unfortunately for the anti-New Orleans sentiment, that levee system doesn't have anything to do with New Orleans (in fact, if you dynamited the Mississippi River levees, you'd make the problem infinitely worse). It's designed to allow settlement of the basin and surrounding areas, without which south central Louisiana would only be able to sustain a small population. Do that, and we'll really have no oil coming into the country.

 

[Redbar]

"So your saying maybe I should get a clue before I turn my nose up at fellow Americans?"

 

[ickythump1225]

Sources: Hornets changing nickname to Pelicans - Yahoo! Sports

The New Orleans Hornets are expected to change their nickname to the Pelicans as early as the 2013-14 season, numerous sources told Yahoo! Sports.
The Hornets planned to change their nickname since Tom Benson, owner of the New Orleans Saints, purchased the team on April 14. Benson also owns the rights to the nickname Pelicans.

The Hornets also considered the nicknames Krewe (groups of costumed paraders in the annual Mardi Gras carnival in New Orleans) and Brass.

Louisiana is the Pelican State. The brown pelican is the state bird and appears on the state flag and seal, and official state painting. Moreover, the Pelicans played minor league baseball in New Orleans in all but nine seasons from 1887-1959 and in 1977.
Gayle Benson, Benson's wife, told Fox Sports New Orleans recently her preference for new team colors was navy blue, red and gold.

The Hornets came to New Orleans in 2002 from Charlotte. New Orleans has also had an NBA team called the Jazz, which moved to Salt Lake City in 1979.

Some fans of the Charlotte Bobcats are hoping to get their old Hornets nickname back. The Hornets began playing in Charlotte in 1988. Bobcats owner Michael Jordan told The Charlotte Observer he would consider changing it back to Hornets if the name was available.

 

[BGIF]

A novel idea. With Julia Roberts and Denzel Washington modeling them in ads?

Michael would get his Jordan's in a wad over that pair.

 

[HereComeTheIrish]

And you're from where, Cleveland?

Yeah, but I live in the Urine-Free Zone.

 

[KPENN]

Was expecting a lot worse
New Orleans Pelicans Logos Unveiled | THE OFFICIAL SITE OF THE NEW ORLEANS HORNETS

 

[irishff1014]

Was expecting a lot worse
New Orleans Pelicans Logos Unveiled | THE OFFICIAL SITE OF THE NEW ORLEANS HORNETS

Yea not terrible but still a dumb name.

 

[Who'saWildManNow]

The logo isn't bad but the name is awful.. It just doesn't roll off the tongue.

 

[KPENN]

The logo isn't bad but the name is awful.. It just doesn't roll off the tongue.

Yeah just awkward sounding