CtrlAltDel
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I don't have to do research. That season was one of many I've followed through the decades. I saw the games. I followed the weekly voting in the polls. I watched the bowl games. Notre Dame was rewarded by the voters for playing and beating soundly the toughest team in the land. Undefeated #1 ranked Texas scored 441 points that season but only 10 against The Irish. Heisman winner Early Campbell ran rough shod over defense all season. ND held him to 116 yds on 29 carries with NO SCORES. Campbell got his yardage between the 20s. He was stifled in the red zone. Meanwhile BOTH Heavens and Ferguson ran for over 100 yds. The game was over midway through the second quarter when ND took a 24-3 lead.
CtrlAltDel will tell you Bama beat up the 9th ranked Buckeyes. They did. What he didn't tell you was the Buckeyes didn't show up for the game. The Buckeyes were headed to the Rose Bowl until the last game of the season when Schembeckler stuck it to Hayes. The deflated Buckeyes though the Sugar Bowl was beneath them. There were grumbles when the bowl bids went out and during bowl week as reported by the media. The poll voters rewarded ND for throttling the best in the land while Bama beat a team that didn't want to be in New Orleans and played like it.
This poster is a troll pure and simple. Shame on you for buying into his crap. He should have been banned for his bald face lie about ND and MSU sitting on the ball in the second half of The Game of The Century. Both teams beat the snot out of each other for 60 minutes. There were mangled players on both sides. ND lost 3 All-Americans to injury but still shut out the 10th ranked Trojans the next week 51-0 with scrubs playing for the injured AA's. The voters were impressed not only that ND could field a team the next week but that they destroyed one of the best teams in the land using key backups with the national title on the line.
He should be banned for trolling the "No Mas No Mas" BS comment about ND not playing in bowl games after 1925. That was a decision made by the ND President for academic reasons not to duck competition as this troll would have you believe. Any serious sports fan who knows the history of college football is aware of that. This troll chose to misrepresent it and you buy his act as "fact". Shame on you!
CtrlAltDel tells you Bama got cheated out of the '66 Championship because the "Northern Media" wanted to punish The Tide for Segregation. He ignores that the Southern voters voted in a block for their regional team. ND which played opponents around the Nation got votes from around the Nation. A Bama player even wrote a book about how Bama was a "victim" in '66. "The Missing Ring"
Bama a "victim in '66, a "victim" in '73, a "victim" in the '75 Orange Bowl, let's face it, whenever they didn't win they were a "victim".
They're 1-5 All-Time against ND. Bear was 0-4.
One of the local stations here in Alabama runs old Bama games under the title of "The Greatest Games in Alabama History". I've probably seen the one Bama win in '86 about a dozen times over the years. ND was 5-6 that year but that's one of Bama's Greatest Games. I contacted the shows producer and suggested they show the '73 Sugar Bowl and '75 Orange Bowl "two of the greatest games in all of college football history". Even Bear Bryant acknowledged those two games as two of the best ever played. Despite the public recognition of those two bowls the producer told he didn't have a tape of those games. I offered him mine. After the pregnant pause, he responded, "we wouldn't show either of those games as we only show games Alabama actually won".
CtrlAltDel wants to perpetuate the myths that Alabama got screwed multiple times by ND's co-conspirators, the media, and that ND ducked competition (No Mas, No Mas).
He's a disingenuous troll.
There actually was a situation where somebody did cry "No Mas, No Mas" in the history of Alabama/ND games. But it wasn't whinned by ND.
Both schools had a home and home series scheduled for the middle of the last decade (yeah they waited under after Holtz was gone to put it together.) But after the NCAA sanctions came down for the illegal recruitment of Albert Means, Bama AD Mal Moore immediately contacted ND about backing out of the series due to "loss of scholarships". Moore was concerned that UA wouldn't be able to man up with ND. ND accepted UA's withdrawal with no cancellation penalty. For those that don't know (or don't want to know) Mal Moore was a former ND assistant football coach under Lou Holtz.
Moore wasn't the first Bama man with ND ties. CtrlAltDel likes to harp on Bama's Rose Bowl days but he neglected to note that Bama's Head Coach Frank Thomas was an ND Man. Played for Rockne and roomed with Gipp. Thomas is considered UA's second greatest coach after Bryant who played for and was mentored by Thomas. Notre Dame had a hand in putting UA on the football map.
No, no, I didn't neglect to bring any of that up about Thomas, I just never had the chance in regards to what we were discussing. Why would I be ashamed of Thomas, Rockne's favorite player? I think that is a point of pride for any Alabama fan.
No Bama fan has ever hidden the fact that Thomas was from Notre Dame. We are thankful that a good coach was around to take up the slack when Wallace Wade left.
Listen, I never stated one time that I dislike Notre Dame, I really don't. I think if any team could compare to Alabama, in totality, it could be none other than Notre Dame. That doesn't make me envious or angry; I think it's cool.
Mal Moore, a local Alabama product, learns his trade from a master, in Bryant, who learned his stuff from Thomas, who in turn learned from Rockne. Then Moore goes for a while to ND, after over a decade on Bryant's staff andfinally ends up back on Stallings staff, now he is the AD. It's a fascinating story, nothing to hide but, just not appropriate to the thread we are in, really. And, well, Gerry Faust ain't exactly Lou Holtz, but, whatever. Moore was under Faust.
Now, as far as the bowl games, what does it matter if it was a self-imposed ban or not, ND didn't play in bowl games either way. And, of course, I realize that it was self imposed but, still, that doesn't negate what I was referencing in that Notre Dame fans have zero ground to stand on when talking about bowl games.
For your rambling and musing about a local station here, in Alabama, not continually playing games wherein the favorite son team is beaten, you can't be serious. I mean, that would be like Columbus, Ohio, or Los Angeles, California, putting on loop all the times Alabama has beaten them. That ain't happening anywhere. You play to your crowd; you seem like you would know that.
To continue, in '66, Bama certainly was cheated. They started the season #1 and as 2 time defending NC's, had as tough a schedule as anyone, slaughtered their opponents, never lost a game, ouscored opponents 301-44, never trailed an opponent, beat Nebraska senseless, goose-egged 6 opponents, yet thanks to George Wallace, we were #3 somehow at the end of the season.
Notre Dame got the ball back from MSU with over a minute left in the game and on their 30 yard line. What does Parseghian decide to do so that he can assured of retaining the ND ranking? Why, hell, let's just let the clock run out, yeah, that's a good idea.
Afterwards, Lombardi was asked what it was like to be the best team in the nation just after winning the Super Bowl, he said he didn't know because his team hadn't played Alabama yet. He knew what was up. A lot of people didn't like it at all; just not the people that voted. They had to punsish Southerners for having slaves back in the 1800's and prior, even though only an average of only on in 20,000 had slaves. Or, they were punishing Alabama for some moron standing in the school doors of Alabama being an attention wh*re. For that, the players were punished.
Alabama clearly was the best team in '66 and Alabama does not claim this title.
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