Manti Te'o for Heisman

[clashmore_mike]

Jones has been hurt too much. And there is no way Geno is still in it. He would be a 8-10th round pick if coming into the draft right now. He's atrocious.

I kinda agree with your top 4 though. I would put it at 1a and 1b with Klein and T'eo though.

Geno is the #1 qb on most draft boards. Its safe to assume he'd be picked slightly higher than the 8th round.

 

[ThePiombino]

Geno is the #1 qb on most draft boards. Its safe to assume he'd be picked slightly higher than the 8th round.

...but why let reality get in the way?

As for Manti, let's just hope the voters consider the intangibles, because when you consider that AND what he's done on the field- there is NO ONE better this year.

 

[CTIDANDREW]

Geno is the #1 qb on most draft boards. Its safe to assume he'd be picked slightly higher than the 8th round.

Yeah I kind of laughed at that as well. Atrocious is kinda harsh for a guy that's threw something like 26 TD's this season..

Manti winning the Heisman was a dream after MSU...its looking more and more like reality every passing week. Just Keep Winning!

 

[peoriairish]

Yeah I kind of laughed at that as well. Atrocious is kinda harsh for a guy that's threw something like 26 TD's this season..

Manti winning the Heisman was a dream after MSU...its looking more and more like reality every passing week. Just Keep Winning!

Really? We're going to break down what I said at 1 am after an ND win? Jack D was telling me what to do.

But I'll back it up. He has played such porous defenses that he has been able to have those stats. Maybe he'll get drafted higher, but he shouldn't. Pretty sure Mel or someone took him off his top draft board this week.

 

[North Buffalo Irish]

Geno is the #1 qb on most draft boards. Its safe to assume he'd be picked slightly higher than the 8th round.

And there's only 7 rounds in the NFL draft lol

 

[peoriairish]

And there's only 7 rounds in the NFL draft lol

Technicality

 

[Bobias]

#1 on ESPN leaderboard by a long shot.

Heisman Vote

 

[NDhoosier]

interesting...

 

[IHateMarkMay]

Just putting this here so we can look at it when the new standings come out...

Collin Klein QB Kansas State Sr. 15 0 0 0 0 75
Manti Te'o LB Notre Dame Sr. 0 6 4 2 1 41
Kenjon Barner RB Oregon Sr. 0 4 3 2 1 30
AJ McCarron QB Alabama Jr. 0 1 5 1 5 26
Braxton Miller QB Ohio State So. 0 1 2 4 1 19

 

[ACamp1900]

No way Miller can win while playing a season that does not count for anything, McCarron won't win shiz, Barner and Thomas kind of take each other out...

 

[Ultimate Penn St. Hater]

Voted. Let's go Manti!!

 

[Chamellion]

I just want to throw this out there, Jarvis Jones had one of the best games I've ever seen from a defensive player this week.

 

[GoldenIsThyFame]

So some Texas A&M superfan who wants to have intercourse with Johnny Manziel decided he wanted to get some hits for his blog and made some ridiculous comments. Thanks to TP for pointing him out on Twitter. Here are some of the guys best comments.

‏@iamthe12thman
Watching OU-ND replay. Manti Te'o is the most overrated defensive player in the nation. #OUvs#ND

‏@iamthe12thman
If Te'o is a #heisman candidate, @tmoore94 should have two trophies on his mantle already. Unlike Te'o, Moore is a game-changer

@iamthe12thman
Manti Te'o is a product of the Irish hype machine. He wouldn't make honorable mention at LB in the SEC.

@iamthe12thman
@BigGameBrian Go watch the game again. Te'o does a lot of dropping into coverage, very little tackling‏

@iamthe12thman
@AuthorTedFox If ND played anyone, that might be relevant. Michigan, Purdue, BYU, Miami, oh, that's a tough schedule. #sarcasm

@iamthe12thman
@AuthorTedFox The sad thing is that La Tech would beat Notre Dame this year.

@iamthe12thman
@PASportsMusings Beating an average OU team doesn't make you good. Stop swallowing the hype.

 

[clashmore_mike]

I am disappoint in you Golden.


http://www.irishenvy.com/forums/notre-dame-football/76229-silence-critics.html#post806975

 

[GoldenIsThyFame]

Originally posted on OFD.

Perfect.

 

[ndfi78]

That is awesome

 

[PraetorianND]

Manti Te’o, Notre Dame shining light onto greedy, tarnished sport - State Colleges - MiamiHerald.com

If Notre Dame linebacker Manti Te’o doesn’t win the Heisman Trophy, the Heisman Trust should just melt down the award and sell it for scrap.

Te’o isn’t just the most outstanding player in the country this season, he’s the heart and soul of everything we want the sport to be, a glimmer of hope amid the scrap yard of moral and educational decay that is college football.

Notre Dame is ranked No. 3 this week in the BCS and represents a shining beacon amid the swill. With any luck, the Irish will run the table the rest of the season and play Alabama in the national title game in Miami. College football could use a public relations boost and Te’o provides that.

Te’o, as a Heisman Trophy winner, and the Irish, in an underdog role against Alabama in Miami, are exactly what college football needs after two years of filth.

College football continues to suffer one disgusting story after another — Mississippi State’s indecent proposal to Cam Newton’s father, the lies and arrogance of Jim Tressel, the institutional criminality of Penn State, the fleecing of Miami by a conman, abuse of power by Bobby Petrino. Let’s face it: the sport in its current rotting form is a breeding ground of maggots.

Compromised by money and power, coaches are a lost cause at this point. Fire them all and start over, as far as I’m concerned. Show me a coach with a high moral code and I’ll show you some smoke reflected in a mirror.

Players are different, though. There’s a purity about some collegiate athletes — and I’m talking here about the people interested in receiving an education while playing sports for a university — that cannot be compromised by money and power. Tim Tebow was this way and so is Te’o.

We can learn something from these student-athletes and use it to fix major college football. The ultimate goal would be to transform the sport into a breeding ground for American leadership on a massive scale. I realize this is foolhardy given the current climate of the sport — I mean, not that anything is wrong with everyone on a football team majoring in idiot-ology — but that’s the dream.

Recent reforms by the NCAA will eventually help to remove some of the disingenuous byproducts of a sport built upon a foundation of unpaid labor, embarrassingly absent admission standards and $2 million coaching contracts. Until then, we have resurgent Notre Dame and Te’o to remind us that, yes, excellent football can be played at a school that values things like, you know, an education.

When Te’o led his defense last week in a dominating effort against Oklahoma, it was a win for college football. It was a victory not because Notre Dame is a national brand and the school has thousands and thousands of fans in major television markets. It was a victory because a school that maintains at least some semblance of educational requirements for athletes can indeed not only compete on the same field as a school that does not but whip that school up and down the field.

Notre Dame was a 10-point dog against the Sooners in Norman, Okla. The Irish won 30-13 and Te’o had 11 tackles and a game-clinching interception. On the season, Te’o has 72 tackles and five interceptions. He has done more than enough to qualify himself for the Heisman in a year where quality offensive candidates are hard to come by.

Notre Dame’s resurgence has been celebrated in Indianapolis, where the NCAA has received plenty of backlash for its new academic requirements for incoming freshmen. Of course, it’s not like the new requirements are difficult or anything. It’s just that there will actually now be a bare minimum requirement to keep out the dummies and develop the deserving into contributing members of society.

Currently, there are large numbers of college football players, who, academically, do not belong in college. For example: about 30 percent of Kansas State’s roster is made up of JUCO transfers. When the NCAA’s new academic requirements for incoming freshmen go in effect in 2016, schools of K-State’s ilk will either (a) not be able to field football teams anymore or (b) be so uncompetitive that a move to a lower division might be inevitable.

Meanwhile, schools like Notre Dame will be posed for prosperous times. If that means more players like Te’o, I’m all for it.

Read more here: Manti Te’o, Notre Dame shining light onto greedy, tarnished sport - State Colleges - MiamiHerald.com

 

[Sheppy]

Love it.

 

[johnnykillz]

Awesome article. Reps for sharing...

 

[PraetorianND]

Awesome article. Reps for sharing...

Thanks bro. Got it from a big Irish fan I know that I met living in family housing at ND.

Manti and ND are truly incredible. I love that we care about graduating our players and standing for something more than football. I hope other schools take notice and do the same. BK is really proving that it's possible to win at a school like ND that values academics and character. Schools like LSU should burn down.

 

[WakeUpEchoes]

Thanks for sharing. My uncle writes for the Herald, special investigative reporter. He told me this guy was going to write an article on Te'o. He is huge FSU homer, but said everyone there liked what kind of article the guy was preparing.

 

[IrishCat]

 

[clashmore_mike]

Why the two "held sway"s?

 

[dshans]

Why the two "held sway"s?

Burgundy wine and general human frailties. I should have proof read before sending.

Not having a reliable proof reader can be a bitch ...

 

[JughedJones]

Big fan of the Grammar Hammer, but you got your *** kicked in that email!

 

[Me2SouthBend]

Burgundy wine and general human frailties. I should have proof read before sending.

Not having a reliable proof reader can be a bitch ...

You had better hope that they don't have a deer on the editorial board at the Herald.

 

[GoldenIsThyFame]

Week 10 Heisman Watch: Race narrows to three - CBSSports.com

1. Klein, 2. Barner. 3. McCarron

Simply put, Te'o can't win because he is a pure defender. While you'll hear a lot of talk otherwise, don't fall for it. This is not to say he does or doesn't deserve to win. That is for others to decide. But my understanding of 77 years of Heisman campaigns tells me that there just won't be enough voters willing to pull the trigger in that direction.

He will have to fend off Manziel and Marqise Lee to be in the Top 5 and go to NYC.

 

[ulukinatme]

Don't really care if Manti doesn't win now. It just reinforces that the award isn't worth jack anymore. It's a popularity contest for the most popular player on a Top 10 team. I love how he completely gets dropped from some discussions after having one game where he had just average stats. Just hope the team keeps winning and winds up in one of the big bowls, thats enough.

 

[NDinFL]

Don't really care if Manti doesn't win now. It just reinforces that the award isn't worth jack anymore. It's a popularity contest for the most popular player on a Top 10 team. I love how he completely gets dropped from some discussions after having one game where he had just average stats. Just hope the team keeps winning and winds up in one of the big bowls, thats enough.

Perfectly said,

I hope Manti gets at least an invite to the ceremony, as a finalist.

Otherwise this thing is just for gaudy offensive numbers

 

[DANsanity15]

It will be a damn shame if Te'O isn't a finalist. Guys who are immature and take the game for granted (Honey Badger) go as finalists, but someone of high character and extremely high production on the field get left out.