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ACamp1900

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I hope Purdue is next. It doesn't do anything for Notre Dame. It's an in-state rivalry no one outside of Indiana really cares about.

Screw the entire Big twleleve... drop MSU and Purdue...

Navy
Standford
USC
5 ACC
two stupid level cream puffs (we have to come around and fight fire with fire on this eventually, NO ONE will hold FSU's first few games against them in the long run, seriously)
1-2 rotated 'name' teams... OUs and Texas' of the world.

that's a winning formula I could get behind.
 

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Man, this shizz got me excited... bold new world.
 

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I saw this coming when the ACC move was announced. Notre Dame needs wiggle room in the schedule. Michigan has a history off taking the ball and running home when it comes to ND. The series has had long breaks, they are the easiest to cut.

5 ACC Schools
Stanford
USC
Navy
Purdue
MSU
Michigan
Shamrock Series

That is a full schedule, someone had to be dropped and Michigan is the easiest. No rotating MSU and Michigan, why would either school agree to that? Cut Michigan, that leaves an open spot to schedule anyone you want and no more worrying about filling out your schedule due to realignments.
 

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It's funny how all of you scUM fans poke fun at ND for living in the past, but in the same breath find so much merit in wins against ND from over 100 years ago. Over the last 50 years, we're 14-14-1 and have more National Titles. So go $hit in a hat, meat chicken.

I was responding to someone who said that Michigan won the first 7 or 8 in the series. Last time I checked football didn't start in 1962. It started in 1869. But thanks for the response!

You're always a class act when talking to me. Have a nice day, sir. :)
 
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I was responding to someone who said that Michigan won the first 7 or 8 in the series. Last time I checked football didn't start in 1962. It started in 1869. But thanks for the response!

You're always a class act when talking to me. Have a nice day, sir. :)

Have nice seasons through 2031. I know we will.

Maybe you should change your sig pic to one with this year's score, no?
 

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Michigan, traditionally, has taken their ball and gone home whenever the scales tipped in ND's favor. They beat up on us the first 8 times, then we beat them in 1909 for the first time and it's the old, "Well we were just treating it as a scrimmage." So Fielding Yost, the unabashed anti-Catholic and anti-Semitic he was, pulls the series because he doesn't want to get beat by ND. Blackballs us from the Big Ten and tries his hardest to make all Big Ten teams blackball us. He didn't want to compete with ND on the field nor did he want to have common opponents that could compare his program's common games with ND, which makes it harder to win a Natty. He also wanted ND to fail as a program. So we go national on the way to global. Then we play them in 1942, UM wins. So all is good lets play them in 1943 says UM. ND wins in 1943 and you guessed it UM pulls out again. Series returned in 1978 and is even since. If you take away the games from 1887 to 1909 (when ND had barely established anything above a rag tag group of a football team) the series is tied 15-15-1.

Not to mention Sparty and Purdue are much more of traditional rivalry than Michigan could ever hope to be to ND. ND has played only Navy more than Purdue. If it was my choice I would protect Navy, USC, Purdue, and one other California team. I'd play Sparty every few years if we can work in a home/away with them.

So after all this I say farewell and f*ck off Michigan.

Football didn't start 50 years ago. It started 143 years ago. You have to take in ALL results. Not just put a blanket over ones you don't want to be looked at. I don't try to hide that Michigan got beat up by Ivy League teams back in the 1800s and had a winless season.

What happened, happened. No escaping it.
 

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Look i have no qualms with anyone posting on this board. And wolverine1997 is always been an alright dude but you know damn well if we went to a michigan board and had our signature and avatar as ND type pictures we would be banned in seconds.

Quick question Wolverine1997 why do you even post here? Im not trying to be a dick im just curious
 

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Football didn't start 50 years ago. It started 143 years ago. You have to take in ALL results. Not just put a blanket over ones you don't want to be looked at. I don't try to hide that Michigan got beat up by Ivy League teams back in the 1800s and had a winless season.

What happened, happened. No escaping it.

I think he was more trying to highlight how whenever ND beat Michigan, Michigan would blackball them for awhile and that Michigan hasn't played alot of the better ND teams.
 

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Look i have no qualms with anyone posting on this board. And wolverine1997 is always been an alright dude but you know damn well if we went to a michigan board and had our signature and avatar as ND type pictures we would be banned in seconds.

Quick question Wolverine1997 why do you even post here? Im not trying to be a dick im just curious

Just to see how the other side is thinking. ND fans are the most civil out of Michigan's rivals. On the internet and in person. ohio fans type in all caps with horrid spelling, I've had physical altercations with them.state fans can't go go 3 seconds in a conversation without saying some dumb nickname they have for Michigan and they are mostly uneducated about their program's history.
 

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Michigan trolls all over the internet are Exhibit A why I will not miss this game. They're only rivaled by Alabama fans' obsession with the Paul Finebaum radio show.
 

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Football didn't start 50 years ago. It started 143 years ago. You have to take in ALL results. Not just put a blanket over ones you don't want to be looked at. I don't try to hide that Michigan got beat up by Ivy League teams back in the 1800s and had a winless season.

What happened, happened. No escaping it.

I wasn't putting a blanket over anything. I didn't take any games away. I was merely remarking that, in the more modern times of college football that this rivalry has been played, the series is tied and has been highly competitive. Funniest thing about it is that you had nothing to say about all the bush league bull crap that piece of **** Fielding Yost pulled during the years in regards to ND. You only tried to manipulate a statement I made into something it was not.

I'm sorry you get so butt hurt about my statement but we're not your little brother. ND is the greatest college football program ever. Bar none. No one compares, not even Michigan. More titles. More Heismans. More All Americans. Greatest tradition ever. Period.

Get lost.
 
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So is it his two sig pics mocking us or his past bashing of ND that makes him an alright guy?

Im trying to be civil bro, but like i said if that was us doing the same thing he is doing on a michigan board we would be banned in no time. He has never done anything but been straight with me so thats the reasoning i said he is alright. But believe me i agree with you for the most part
 

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Don't worry, fellas. I speak scUM and will translate for you.

Just to see how the other side is thinking. ND fans are the most civil out of Michigan's rivals.

I'm trying not to get banned yet.

On the internet and in person. ohio fans type in all caps with horrid spelling, I've had physical altercations with them.

OSU beats us almost every year when they're not on probation. Now that they have Urban, I don't see that changing, so I despise them. I like to fight.

state fans can't go go 3 seconds in a conversation without saying some dumb nickname they have for Michigan and they are mostly uneducated about their program's history.

I don't get why MSU would be pissed by us constantly calling them "Little Brother". They act like they beat our @sses every year or something.... wait....
 

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Don't worry, fellas. I speak scUM and will translate for you.



I'm trying not to get banned yet.



OSU beats us almost every year when they're not on probation. Now that they have Urban, I don't see that changing, so I despise them. I like to fight.



I don't get why MSU would be pissed by us constantly calling them "Little Brother". They act like they beat our @sses every year or something.... wait....

AHAHAHAHAHA......Nice
 

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I don't get why MSU would be pissed by us constantly calling them "Little Brother". They act like they beat our @sses every year or something.... wait....

Let me fix this for you.

"They act like WE DON'T BEAT OURSELVES against them every year or something....wait...."
 

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I wasn't putting a blanket over anything. I didn't take any games away. I was merely remarking that, in the more modern times of college football that this rivalry has been played, the series is tied and has been highly competitive. Funniest thing about it is that you had nothing to say about all the bush league bull crap that piece of **** Fielding Yost pulled during the years in regards to ND. You only tried to manipulate a statement I made into something it was not.

I'm sorry you get so butt hurt about my statement but we're not your little brother. ND is the greatest college football program ever. Bar none. No one compares, not even Michigan. More titles. More Heismans. More All Americans. Greatest tradition ever. Period.

Get lost.

Wrong. Michigan and ND both claim 11 National Championships. alabama has 14 (albeit, they have some very fraudulent claims).
 

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Wrong. Michigan and ND both claim 11 National Championships. alabama has 14 (albeit, they have some very fraudulent claims).

True they claim. But 13 are widely attributed to ND. '38 and '53. ND could claim 21 National Titles if they wanted (or if they were Alabama), as they were chosen by at least one selection body in an additional 10 seasons.
 
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Yes he was wrong about the National titles part, but on everything else he is spot on.

No I wasn't. Despite the fact that the University only claims 11, Notre Dame is widely attributed 13. They always have been. And if we did what many programs do in relation to their Nattys, Notre Dame could claim 21.
 
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Wrong. Michigan and ND both claim 11 National Championships. alabama has 14 (albeit, they have some very fraudulent claims).

You sound like a Bama fan. Michigan has won the title outright twice, once in 1948 and shared the the 1997 title. Michigan fans try to claim the 1947 title, but that actually belongs to Notre Dame if you go by the AP poll. I would understand if Michigan fans claimed titles in which the same poll (ie AP, National Champion Foundation, Sagarin) voted for each title, but you don't.

Under the same philosophy you state, ND has 23 titles.
 

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You sound like a Bama fan. Michigan has won the title outright twice, once in 1948 and shared the the 1997 title. Michigan fans try to claim the 1947 title, but that actually belongs to Notre Dame if you go by the AP poll. I would understand if Michigan fans claimed titles in which the same poll (ie AP, National Champion Foundation, Sagarin) voted for each title, but you don't.

Under the same philosophy you state, ND has 23 titles.

ND does not claim 23. They claim 11.

If I sounded like a Bama fan, I would be trying to justify claiming a title where they lost 2 games, had several other conference teams ranked ahead of them and didn't win their league.

Michigan went undefeated in every title they claim. If you want to put specifications and be picky about them, be my guest. I do not care nor will I ever. What's done is done.
 

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No I wasn't. Despite the fact that the University only claims 11, Notre Dame is widely attributed 13. They always have been. And if we did what many programs do in relation to their Nattys, Notre Dame could claim 21.

Correct, my mistake....i thought we were speaking on claim National Titles. My bad broseph
 

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ND does not claim 23. They claim 11.

If I sounded like a Bama fan, I would be trying to justify claiming a title where they lost 2 games, had several other conference teams ranked ahead of them and didn't win their league.

Michigan went undefeated in every title they claim. If you want to put specifications and be picky about them, be my guest. I do not care nor will I ever. What's done is done.

No, we claim titles in which we were UNANIMOUSLY voted. Not just voted on retroactively or by some irrelevent poll. If we claimed exactly what you are proposing, seasons we went undefeated and had a poll vote us as National Championships, we would have 21.

You can't have it both ways, skunkbear.
 

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No, we claim titles in which we were UNANIMOUSLY voted. Not just voted on retroactively or by some irrelevent poll. If we claimed exactly what you are proposing, seasons we went undefeated and had a poll vote us as National Championships, we would have 21.

You can't have it both ways, skunkbear.

I'm going to say this one more time.

THE UNIVERSITY CLAIMS 11 NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS

I don't give a rats *** if Ryan Leaf was the selector. It is what it is.
 

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I'm going to say this one more time.

THE UNIVERSITY CLAIMS 11 NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS

I don't give a rats *** if Ryan Leaf was the selector. It is what it is.

But if we are going by the way you claim National titles ND should have 21.....you cant have it both ways bud
 
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