Notre Dame to ACC as partial member

[elboricua]

I usually remain out of the whole espn situation.

But

That place can go die in a fire. They're like the fox news of sports. Except, monumentally more full of themselves.

Yes, they are. I always make that analogy and people don't seem to understand where I'm coming from, but then again they aren't ND fans.

 

[95NDAlumNM]

Interesting that we are going to tell the ACC what dates we have open and they will pick what acc team we will play.

 

[gkIrish]

I think I saw GITF say this earlier but USC, Navy, and Stanford will officially remain on the schedule every year.

Looks like scUM and state might alternate

 

[IrishLax]

I think I saw GITF say this earlier but USC, Navy, and Stanford will officially remain on the schedule every year.

Looks like scUM and state might alternate

Hope we get rid of both and keep Purdue. Seriously.

 

[irishknight35]

Interesting that we are going to tell the ACC what dates we have open and they will pick what acc team we will play.

Wow a little bit too much power in the ACC's hands on that one. I would think that ND and the ACC would collaborate so as to make a balanced schedule instead of a meatgrinder of a season for ND.

 

[gkIrish]

Hope we get rid of both and keep Purdue. Seriously.

I tend to agree, in that it would definitely be better for our national championship hopes. I would still like to see us play the Michigan schools sometimes.

 

[95NDAlumNM]

Wow a little bit too much power in the ACC's hands on that one. I would think that ND and the ACC would collaborate so as to make a balanced schedule instead of a meatgrinder of a season for ND.

Yeah Swarbrick said just about that same thing, but interesting that this is how it will work.

 

[PraetorianND]

Like a few others said i like this because i will get to see more ND sports. But not sure i like the acc for football.

Why?

The ACC seems like a great place to play some football to me. Great recruiting areas, great brand name match-ups, and lots of away games in great locations for ND fans to see their Irish outside of the mid west. You don't get any of those things if you go B1G or Big 12.

If you're worried about quality, I don't think that's an issue. I think we often overlook how well the ACC does because VT has been good for the past decade but they aren't glamorous like FSU or Miami and thus, less recognition for the conference.

The ACC is sweet. Get on board!

 

[irishfanjho15]

Hope we get rid of both and keep Purdue. Seriously.

As I've been saying all day. Purdue is traditionally a bigger rival than UM and MSU. MSU is more so than UM.

I think it's important to play our instate rival. We have played no one more often than Purdue except Navy. Little know facts, after this year we will have played Navy 85 times, Purdue 84 times, USC, 83 times, MSU 80 times, and UM only 40 times.

 

[arrowryan]

Does this start next year or in 2014?

 

[irishfanjho15]

27 months. So probably more like 2015.

 

[Cali_domer]

24 months. So probably more like 2015.

27 months, but I bet we pay to get out for 2013-2014 season.

 

[arrowryan]

24 months. So probably more like 2015.

I think Notre Dame wants to get out of the Big East sooner than that so they will be willing to pay a higher fee to get out. I would think 2013, but no later than 2014

 

[irishfanjho15]

27 months, but I bet we pay to get out for 2013-2014 season.

Fixed thank you.

 

[irishfanjho15]

I thought I saw it said that the ACC and Big Jack wanted to respect the Big East's requirements? Maybe I didn't anyone know?

 

[gkIrish]

Quote of the #ND AD Jack Swarbrick #ACC press conference ~ "It's an awful lot of attention for a schools that's not relevant anymore"


Go JACK

 

[Downinthebend]

Teams I want to play every year are

Texas
Miami
Florida State
Stanford
USC
Navy

 

[Junkhead]

Can we get a home game with Savannah State?

 

[peoriairish]

Jack said football scheduling will start in 2014 with 3 ND home games and 2 away. Neutral Site could be an ACC team. The 27 months are for the sports in the big east of.

 

[IrishMoore1]

Teams I want to play every year are

Texas
Miami
Florida State
Stanford
USC
Navy

That would be awesome but it won't happen. Every ACC team is guaranteed a game against ND every 3 years, and there's 14 teams. So we'd be playing Florida State every three years, for example.

 

[beryirish]

I skimmed through these....was this mentioned?

ISD tweet:

Texas to ACC? Swarbrick: I would never pretend to answer anything for my friends at Texas. My sense is they couldn't be happier w/current circumstance.

....a lil eye wink??

 

[Downinthebend]

Add Oklahoma + Texas to the ACC and I'd love it for football.

 

[Old Man Mike]

Gentlemen: I'm certainly unsure as to whether anything in the ACC will continue status quo, but the ACC has many bowl tie-ins which are better than the Big East's. Swarbrick powerfully angled for that too. As we've read: all Notre Dame has to do is be within one win of the ACC team of better record AND WE WILL BE PICKED OVER THEM. [i.e. if we have a ten win season, only an undefeated ACC team would be picked ahead of us --- I'll bet the knowing ACC fans/coaches are screaming foul on that one!]. The current ACC arrangements:

#1 Bowl Championship Series. The winner of the ACC Championship Game receives an automatic berth to a BCS bowl game, preferentially the Discover Orange Bowl.
#2 The Chick-fil-A Bowl receives the second choice of ACC teams.
#3 The Russell Athletic Bowl receives the third choice of ACC teams.
#4 The Hyundai Sun Bowl receives the ACC Championship Game runner up or the fourth choice of ACC teams.
#5 The Belk Bowl
#6 The Franklin American Mortgage Company Music City Bowl
#7 The Advocare 100 Independence Bowl
#8 The Military Bowl receives the eighth choice of ACC teams.
#9 The Kraft Fight Hunger Bowl in the event that the ACC has nine bowl-eligible teams, the Conference has made a conditional arrangement to send its eighth selection after the BCS to the Kraft Fight Hunger Bowl in San Francisco, if either of that Bowl's primary partners are not bowl elig

This to me is a powerful coup. To get that coup and remain independent scheduling seven of our own games, Swarbrick had to give up something. He didn't give up much --- only saying that we'd try to make it easier on ACC scheduling by letting them basically slot in the opponents. Since we play the entire conference every three years, this is hardly a "stacking" problem. Plus the ACC said they'd work with us on that anyway.

As to rivals, we still have seven games with which to maintain rivalries. So we don't have ACC rivals...so what? Except BC and Pitt we don't anyway. I've got no problem with any of this and see it as generally a slight and necessary softening of the schedule. It places us squarely in the powerful recruiting areas of Maryland shore down through Virginia coast and the Carolinas, plus Florida. We can easily keep presence in California. Maybe we could utilize Navy and BYU [or someone] to play in Texas, where we have to fake it now anyway. Purdue and MSU maintain our lock on the imaginations of the Illinois through Ohio district. [i.e. we don't abandon the Midwest.] I have a tough time seeing the downside here.

 

[NDFan4Life]

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[Irish Houstonian]

Gentlemen: I'm certainly unsure as to whether anything in the ACC will continue status quo, but the ACC has many bowl tie-ins which are better than the Big East's. Swarbrick powerfully angled for that too. As we've read: all Notre Dame has to do is be within one win of the ACC team of better record AND WE WILL BE PICKED OVER THEM. [i.e. if we have a ten win season, only an undefeated ACC team would be picked ahead of us --- I'll bet the knowing ACC fans/coaches are screaming foul on that one!]. The current ACC arrangements:

#1 Bowl Championship Series. The winner of the ACC Championship Game receives an automatic berth to a BCS bowl game, preferentially the Discover Orange Bowl.
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Are we going to be able to play in the Orange Bowl? I mean, we won't ever be the "ACC Champion" because we won't be in the conference...right?

 

[ACamp1900]

How in the world will non-conference games against Notre Dame impact the ACC standings in any way?

I see where you are at in terms of literal numbers/standings...

I was considering a few things when I made the comment...

1.) Tie breakers... each conference is different and I honestly don't know what the ACC uses but in conference record, Non-conference record, overall record and BCS standings are just a few examples of things that are used... Any non-conference opponent will directly impact most and I would even say all of these... I'll explain below.

2.) No schedule occurs in a week to week vacuum. You have to consider it as a whole. When you look at our schedule this year, if you look at each single team we can say Notre Dame could run the table… but when you put those teams back to back to back as they are it becomes hard to imagine ANY team running the table. Football is just that type of physical game. This line of thinking is exactly why the SEC powers schedule nothing above FBS cream puffs for their non-conference schedules once the SEC season really starts rolling… one hard non-conference game CAN impact your in conference quality of play, and thus the conference record when all is said and done.

3.) Any team that plays five teams in one conference is going to impact that conference’s title hunt by virtue of 1 and 2 alone.

Stuff like that is what i was getting at.

 

[peoriairish]

Are we going to be able to play in the Orange Bowl? I mean, we won't ever be the "ACC Champion" because we won't be in the conference...right?

If we have a higher rank than the second SEC team I believe.

 

[jason_h537]

Are we going to be able to play in the Orange Bowl? I mean, we won't ever be the "ACC Champion" because we won't be in the conference...right?

ND has ties to all ACC bowls except the orange bowl. The Orange Bowl is ACC and an at large bid so ND can get an at large bid and play an ACC opponent in the Orange Bowl.

 

[beryirish]

Are we going to be able to play in the Orange Bowl? I mean, we won't ever be the "ACC Champion" because we won't be in the conference...right?

simple answer is yes there is a possibility...details on how it works out I think peoria has it or it was stated that ND may even play the ACC champion in it.



edit^^^^^^^^^^

 

[DSully1995]

Are we going to be able to play in the Orange Bowl? I mean, we won't ever be the "ACC Champion" because we won't be in the conference...right?

What i understood was lets say FSU goes 12-0 and we go 11-1 we take the auto bbcs berth and theyd ofcourse get an atlarge bid or the number ACC slot. Anyone with better insight wanna sort this out?


Edit: scratch that pree sure peoria has it right