ND steals Rick Reilly's girlfriend, he's mad

[scUM Hater]

The best thing Rick Reilly ever did was "The Announcement", with Lebron James announcing he would go to Miami, oh wait....even that sucked.

 

[irishfanjho15]

As to twenty years of irrelevance, ND has won 151 games in the last 20 season (1992-2011). Ranking them 24th in the country in wins over that time.

I-A Wins 1992-2011

Ranks 26th in winning percentage over the same time period.

I-A Winning Percentage 1992-2011

I just feel that complete irrelevance, as is associated with ND, would be outside the top 25. Just a sign of the times, everyone is a 'freak out artist' or a sensationalist.

 

[Kanye West]

As to twenty years of irrelevance, ND has won 151 games in the last 20 season (1992-2011). Ranking them 23rd in the country in wins over that time.

I-A Wins 1992-2011

Ranks 26th in winning percentage over the same time period.

I-A Winning Percentage 1992-2011

I just feel that complete irrelevance, as is associated with ND, would be outside the top 25. Just a sign of the times, everyone is a 'freak out artist'.

But we played an easyy schedule We haven't been awful, we just have not been at Notre dame's level in the prior decades.

 

[irishfanjho15]

But we played an easy schedule We haven't been awful, we just have not been at Notre dame's level in the prior decades.

Completely agree, but hiring three bad head football coaches in a row will do that.

 

[irishfanjho15]

Rick Reilly Has a Shillelagh Stuck Up His… | Her Loyal Sons

 

[k1ssme1m1r1sh]

HA! I love when a woman calls someone "douche nozzles"! Maybe its just that they have more credibility when it comes to that term!

Ok, I'm not sure if that's a compliment or an insult. But douche nozzle was a better term than the one I wanted to use!

 

[charlyp123]

This was my response to Rick's piece:

Rick,

Read your piece about ND football. You simply don't get it. People love ND not for just the wins & losses. That is part of it. Yes, for a long time they were the gold standard on the gridiron. But people still love ND because they do it the right way. Their athletes actually go to class. ND football has averaged a near perfect graduation rate for almost a decade, while most of the SEC hovers below 40%. There are no big scandals like PSU, for the most part their players don't threaten to kill their girlfriends like several Florida Gators have done in the past or get caught committing felonies, like TCU and their drug ring. Again, Notre Dame does it the right way. This is something we all, as Americans, long for. That is why we still love ND. Those gold helmets remind of what we should aspire to be. That's why your article has it all wrong. We should punish and demote all the schools doing it the wrong way and encourage others to follow ND's lead. Go IRISH!!!

 

[ChiRish]

Nice edit.


So I can't like Reilly and Cowheard? What's wrong with that? I don't agree with everything in this article, but I like his work overall and he's written some FANTASIC pieces (his one after 9-11 is one of the best of all time)

Cowherd is a clown and Reilly likes to go off and write his grandiose morally superior nonsense articles. You can like them, but they're both a complete joke as far as I'm concerned.

Anytime you have to write self-aggrandizing or incendiary articles (or say things along the same lines on radio or TV) just to get people interested, watch, listen, or read, you're not a true journalist.

These guys are entertainers, and sh!tty ones at that.

 

[CTIDANDREW]

This was my response to Rick's piece:

Rick,

Read your piece about ND football. You simply don't get it. People love ND not for just the wins & losses. That is part of it. Yes, for a long time they were the gold standard on the gridiron. But people still love ND because they do it the right way. Their athletes actually go to class. ND football has averaged a near perfect graduation rate for almost a decade, while most of the SEC hovers below 40%. There are no big scandals like PSU, for the most part their players don't threaten to kill their girlfriends like several Florida Gators have done in the past or get caught committing felonies, like TCU and their drug ring. Again, Notre Dame does it the right way. This is something we all, as Americans, long for. That is why we still love ND. Those gold helmets remind of what we should aspire to be. That's why your article has it all wrong. We should punish and demote all the schools doing it the wrong way and encourage others to follow ND's lead. Go IRISH!!!

Great post. Reps. Notre Dame is more than just a collective group of men playing football to me. It stands for so much more than that, as Im sure it does for all of you.

 

[TDHeysus]

Notre Dame Irish have relegated themselves to insignificance - ESPN

The hater-ness is strong with this one.

Since when did TMZ start writing stories about Notre Dame?

 

[gkautz10]

Congratulations Rick Reilly, you just spewed some of the most basic stats to try and rip a team of all time. Normal argument from nd haters, "you guys just suck because you do!!". I can't tell who is more of an idiot here, Rick or his editor who let this crap get published.

 

[irishdiehard]

 

[KPENN]

The fact that people have to right about ND being irrelevant means ND isn't irrelevant. Nobody writes articles about others schools in the nation being irrelevant because, well they are really irrelavant.

 

[irishtrain]

He's a clown, but it's not like he's telling tales, or misrepresenting facts. I'm Irish to the core, but we all need to take a big gulp of reality. ND is not irrelevant, but the FB program has been tier 2 at best the last 20 years. At this stage we are only relevant (FB terms) because of our fanbase and history. I'm glad to see clowns like this write the crap they write. Hopefully it increases the motivation factor and stimulates team performance. At the end of the day, just win, and all these clowns have to take a big gulp of STFU.

Eloquint and to the point Irsh YJ. My words sometimes get a little more intense but I agree with everything you said. The haters dont bother me anymore because its true. I wonder if Reilly is a fan of ND and is trying to light a fire. More than likely not just another espn waterboy. But these words are true and Notre Dame needs to do something about it.

 

[IrishinTN]

The fact that people have to right about ND being irrelevant means ND isn't irrelevant. Nobody writes articles about others schools in the nation being irrelevant because, well they are really irrelavant.

Exactly. How many people would read it if it was about Central Florida, Citadel or McNeese State?

One thing though that I think bears keeping in mind...any publicity is good publicity.

 

[Pachuco]

Best line of the article - "I don't love Notre Dame football anymore."

Great, RR. When the thunder booms, the acorns fall from the tree, but the roots stay strong.

We roll deep, homie.

Simple as that.

 

[Woneone]

Good old Mike Golic!

On Notre Dame: 8/16 - ESPN

He goes a little crazy after reading the piece.

 

[Polish Leppy 22]

I heard Golic live this morning on my way in to work. It was good.

 

[gkIrish]

This is the type of **** that just gets me giddy for the day when we finally win it all. Might be 2 years down the line, or 10, or 20. But when that day comes the haters will try to spin their hate into something else but we will all remember who they are.

 

[gkIrish]

Good old Mike Golic!

On Notre Dame: 8/16 - ESPN

He goes a little crazy after reading the piece.

Wow. Golic just ripped on Rick Reilly (a coworker). Surprised ESPN didn't stop him but I love it

 

[maison bleu]

One thing though that I think bears keeping in mind...any publicity is good publicity.

Yeah well, Penn State has had a lot of publicity lately, and I wouldn't call it good...

Bigger picture, tho' Reilly is a huge douche, for sure, and there's nothing original or compelling in that article.

I did wonder though... is this part really true?

"top paying [Notre Dame] a bowl bonus of $1.3 million when it DOESN'T go to a bowl game. That's right: Notre Dame gets a $1.3 million bowl bonus simply for dressing up the stupid leprechaun."

If so, how does that happen? Just curious...

 

[95NDAlumNM]

Yeah well, Penn State has had a lot of publicity lately, and I wouldn't call it good...

Bigger picture, tho' Reilly is a huge douche, for sure, and there's nothing original or compelling in that article.

I did wonder though... is this part really true?

"top paying [Notre Dame] a bowl bonus of $1.3 million when it DOESN'T go to a bowl game. That's right: Notre Dame gets a $1.3 million bowl bonus simply for dressing up the stupid leprechaun."

If so, how does that happen? Just curious...

Others may know more but I believe it was with the last BCS agreement. Before that we got a lot more when we made a BCS game. That was reduced but we now get a piece each year no matter what. I think it was part of having a seat at the table.

 

[ab2cmiller]

BCS agreement was revised in 2005.

Notre Dame will also now received $4.5 million for playing in a BCS game and $1 million when they don't. This is a change from the previous arrangement in which the Irish received $14 million for a BCS appearance and no cash otherwise.

Then updated in 2007 to:

Notre Dame is guaranteed 1/66th of the net revenues after expenses, or approximately $1.3 million. Notre Dame will receive $4.5 million when its team is a participant.

 

[clashmore_mike]

Every BCS school gets a piece of their conference's collective bowl money, correct? Notre Dame is in the BCS but not in a conference obviously, which is why the yearly payout. As was already noted, ND also doesn't get the full payout that other BCS game participants earn for their conference.

 

[Veer option]

I guess Mike Golic fired back earlier this morning. Unfortunately, I havent had a chance to listen to it.

MP3 can be found here.
On Notre Dame: 8/16 - ESPN

 

[ab2cmiller]

I think every team from a major conference is guaranteed more money from the BCS then what we get. That means all the bottom dwellers like Duke, Minnesota, Indiana, Wash. State, Kentucky, etc. etc. are all guaranteed to get more money then our 1.3 million.

Here's an article from 2010 that explained the breakdown for that given year. Almost all the BCS conference split the BCS money evenly.
The BCS' Big Split - SportsBusiness Daily | SportsBusiness Journal | SportsBusiness Daily Global

In breaking down the revenue distributed by the BCS, the Big Ten and the Southeastern Conference are the big winners. Each league put two teams — Ohio State and Iowa from the Big Ten; Alabama and Florida from the SEC — into BCS bowls, meaning those two football-mad leagues will each receive $22.2 million.

The other leagues that qualify automatically into the BCS — the ACC, Big 12, Big East and Pac-10 — each receive $17.7 million, accounting for $115.2 million to be distributed among the big six conferences’ 65 schools. Conferences typically share their BCS and other bowl revenue evenly, although the Big 12 is an exception and pays more to the bowl teams.

A bonus of $4.5 million is paid for each additional team that makes a BCS bowl, which is why the SEC and Big Ten made more this year.

 

[IrishinTN]

Yeah well, Penn State has had a lot of publicity lately, and I wouldn't call it good...

Bigger picture, tho' Reilly is a huge douche, for sure, and there's nothing original or compelling in that article.

I did wonder though... is this part really true?

"top paying [Notre Dame] a bowl bonus of $1.3 million when it DOESN'T go to a bowl game. That's right: Notre Dame gets a $1.3 million bowl bonus simply for dressing up the stupid leprechaun."

If so, how does that happen? Just curious...

Penn State is the exception that proves the rule. And I'm pretty sure even the Leprechaun doesn't have to dress for that game for ND to get 1.3 mil. )

 

[TheSunIsRising]

Laughably inaccurate statements from the article:

Excellent post, reps.

In further support of your point #2, there are less than 15 schools that have more BCS appearances than ND.

And, in support of your point #3, he argues that ND is irrelevant, but then says that they shouldn't have a TV deal and the seat at the BCS. If ND is so irrelevant, why do they have the TV deal (which NBC is likely to renew in 2015, and other networks may try to ), and why are they not only invited to the BCS/college post-season discussions but their AD is actually the spokesperson for the group - not Slive or Delany?

One additional point that I'd add is in answer to the below; points out how Reilly either is a lazy journalist, or a hater.

Yeah well, Penn State has had a lot of publicity lately, and I wouldn't call it good...

Bigger picture, tho' Reilly is a huge douche, for sure, and there's nothing original or compelling in that article.

I did wonder though... is this part really true?

"top paying [Notre Dame] a bowl bonus of $1.3 million when it DOESN'T go to a bowl game. That's right: Notre Dame gets a $1.3 million bowl bonus simply for dressing up the stupid leprechaun."

If so, how does that happen? Just curious...

Bold part is true; underlined part is Rick Reilly trying to be witty. This is one of the areas where Reilly was either very lazy or deliberately misleading to spin his story.

ND does get a guaranteed $1.3M if they do not make a BCS bowl, and receive a higher amount ($4.5M) when they do. However, this is in contrast to the previous deal where ND received either the same share as the conferences if they were invited to a BCS game, or NOTHING if they weren't. My recollection is that it was the conference commissioners that wanted to change from that deal; ND was quite willing to take their chances and either earn their BCS bid, or accept the 0 payout.

If Reilly wants to harp on guaranteed payouts not to be invited to BCS games, he should also ask about the fact that BCS conferences are guaranteed at least one BCS birth, even when they are sub-par (much of Big East and ACC in recent years). Also, why doesn't Reilly whine about Vandy getting a guaranteed $2M (or whatever it was last year) because the SEC qualifies 2 teams every year?

 

[IrishLax]

I don't know why people are giving Reilly what he wants. He just wrote a shock piece for shock value... and he's getting the desired result. Hits, rage, and responses. The simple fact that there was a 20 minute spot on Mike & Mike today is a win for him.

There is absolutely a 0% chance he could respond with a legitimate, logical argument to any of the points I made in my earlier post (#51). But he doesn't have to. That's the beauty of his position and getting paid $2 mil a year to write whatever the heck he wants.

It doesn't matter that if you put Reilly and I on the radio together in a public debate I would destroy him. It doesn't matter that there is nothing original at all in his article. It doesn't matter that he does a great job of obfuscating/twisting "facts" to support his thesis. It all doesn't matter because Reilly couldn't give two sh*ts about being "correct" or logical or accurate... and neither does the public. The vast majority of people country think emotionally and not logically.. and he just gave the emotional masses - pro-ND and anti-ND - exactly what he wanted to in order to generate as much interest as possible.

 

[ab2cmiller]

I found a little bit more recent info in regards to BCS payouts over the last couple of years.

2011-12 Bowl Season

The six BCS AQ conferences receive $22.3 million per conference, an extra 6.1 million if the conference places two teams

Notre Dame receives $6.1 million if it makes a BCS bowl and $1.8 million if it does not.

2010-11 Bowl Season

The six BCS AQ conferences receive $21.2 million per conference, an extra 6 million if the conference places two teams

Notre Dame receives $6. million if it makes a BCS bowl and $1.7 million if it does not.

I guess that means Rick Reily wasn't even using the right figures.

BCS money is projected to at least double in 2014 and with no AQ's the issue of how to split the money is going to be even harder to come to an agreement then even the decision to have a playoff in the first place. Regardless of how the money is split, look for all the ND haters to throw a hissy fit when they see ND's payout.