Wisconsin Postgame

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That was an excellent throw and and excellent catch. And not a hold at all.

Otherwise, Graham didn't record a catch. Greathouse had one for six yards. Overall nine guys caught passes but only three of them were WRs, and not sure I see a deep threat, or a big body, in the WR corps. Hopefully they develop one over the next few weeks.
I’m also in wait and see mode, but I think last night was more due to scheme and game flow. They didn’t push the ball downfield and also ran a ton of 12 personnel in the 2nd half.

We wanted to know if we have a legit #1 WR and we do in Faison. I think we’ll have enough for solid 2/3 options amongst Graham, Greathouse and Gilbert + our two awesome pass catching backs.

Also, I had to double check but I’m pretty positive Graham had a catch and it’s not in the box score. I thought it was a short hitch route at the top of the screen in the second half, no?
 

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2025 Indiana vs Wisconsin: 10 - 7 1H, 31 - 7 FT
2025 Oregon vs Wisconsin: 7 - 0 1H, 21 - 7 FT
2026 ND vs Wisconsin: 13 - 10 1H, 41 - 13 FT

Fickell staff is probably better than I/we have credit for
I referenced a similar stat in my group chat last night in support of Fickel being bad at 2H adjustments and the talent gap take over. I wasn’t happy with ND’s 1H, but clearly adjustments were made. Credit to the staff.

Eerily reminded me of the Miami game from last year with the offensive plan. Extremely conservative and a ton of screens. Is that just what denbrock does week 1 regardless of the opponent?
1000%. I was screaming at the tv about this very point. A more talented team than Wiscy puts ND in a hole last night.
 

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Agree with lots of our points of view. 3 things especially stood out as important to me.
1. Sullivan Abshur, plus other vets calming down on OLine;
2. The PICK-6. Changed the whole Zeitgeist for me (and I thought the sidelines and maybe the stadium.)
3. Shuler ringing the QBs bell. Wisconsin called TO when they saw that he was "swaying" a little
(Sugar Ray Leonard would say "he's (momentarily) on Queer Street.") A few plays were then called different.
 

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TIFWIW:

PFF had Christian Gray, Mukam, Keeley and Sanders with really bad grades on D. Tionne Gray, Shuler, Moore, Young and Brewu as really good grades

Brewu, Traore and Young combining for 10 pressures, 6 hurries and 2 sacks as well as 7 run stops.
I didn’t hear Grays name at all so either he didn’t play much or wasn’t targeted but if he’s on the field at we aren’t hearing his name that must be a good thing. Dunham also got a TFL I believe.
 

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Very flat opening to the game for the team. They looked like a team that had bought into all of the hype coming into the season, and expected that this was going to be a walkover without a lot of effort needed. Whatever you may think of Wisconsin's overall talent level, Luke Fickell and Mike Tressel are very good coaches, and they had their team/unit ready to fight. Notre Dame had breakdowns on both lines in the first half, and some sloppy play from the corners opposite Leonard Moore, as well as a lack of connection from Carr to any receiver/TEs not named Jordan Faison hampered their drives. Special teams were big for Wisconsin early, and ND got a gift on the fumbled kickoff to start to get some traction. I would wager that Freeman lit into them at halftime, and the effort on both sides of the ball was greatly improved.

I hated the offensive gameplan. Everything was between the tackles running the football, and Notre Dame did nothing to threaten the Wisconsin defense laterally. They didn't attempt to stretch the field vertically in the passing game at all. They schemed themselves into tight boxes to make running the ball even more difficult. It was making the changes of inserting Sully Absher at RG and even Joe Otting at C that made the running game start to get some chunk runs. The pass rush began to get home once Joseph had to hold the ball a bit longer to get the ball down the field. A tale of two halves, but it was a comfortable win with an uncomfortable first half.

Gray and Brewu stepped up inside in the second half. It sucks losing Onye, but I think they can overcome his loss. Losing Brauntae Johnson? That's another issue altogether. Here's hoping whatever the issue is is not a lengthy one.
 

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More longer thoughts postgame.
1. First half was ugly but what I expected. Wisconsin I think will actually be a solid team. I think they are better than MSU and Stanford. Looking at their schedule I think they win 8 games. Wouldn’t surprise me if they give USC a game or knock off Penn State.
2. Faison looked great but like most stated they need to get something out of the slot. Throw some of the young guys out there. Hello Bubba Frazier.
3. Was Greathouse even targeted?
4. Thought defense played kinda manila in the first half and seemed like Ash was bringing more pressure with the DL in the second half. Let’s not forget we played the second half without 3 starters (2 of them being 2 of our better players).
5. Loved getting the RB’s involved more in the passing game it seemed to open stuff up.
6. One last thing it feels good being 1-0
 

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More longer thoughts postgame.
1. First half was ugly but what I expected. Wisconsin I think will actually be a solid team. I think they are better than MSU and Stanford. Looking at their schedule I think they win 8 games. Wouldn’t surprise me if they give USC a game or knock off Penn State.
2. Faison looked great but like most stated they need to get something out of the slot. Throw some of the young guys out there. Hello Bubba Frazier.
3. Was Greathouse even targeted?
4. Thought defense played kinda manila in the first half and seemed like Ash was bringing more pressure with the DL in the second half. Let’s not forget we played the second half without 3 starters (2 of them being 2 of our better players).
5. Loved getting the RB’s involved more in the passing game it seemed to open stuff up.
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UGA under Kirby Smart has won a lot of games, and two national titles, being a second half team. Sure, I want to win every game more or less like the Syracuse game last year, but that's just not reality.

As for the WR concerns, I get it, but also it's just one game. And there's no less talent in our WR than Indiana had last year and to use them again, the Kirby Smart UGA teams. I get the title teams had a freak like Bowers, but all I'm saying is you don't need Jeremiah Smith or whatever to win a title. I think over the course of the season, a guy or two will emerge.
Indiana had two future day 1 picks at wide receiver last year. Not sure that's the comforting comp.

We're going to need someone else to step as a consistent second option to catch passes or we'll be looking back at this season in disappointment. I don't see any way around that.
 

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Indiana had two future day 1 picks at wide receiver last year. Not sure that's the comforting comp.

We're going to need someone else to step as a consistent second option to catch passes or we'll be looking back at this season in disappointment. I don't see any way around that.
They need to get Bubba involved, Toney was a 3 star no reason why he can’t play. I feel like our staff holds some of these younger guys hostage.
 

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Morning reflection:

+ The defense was absolutely flying around 2H. I remarked on the tackling already, but the urgency with which they get to the ball was remarkable. Very rarely was one guy making a tackle in space without 2-3 more gold helmets right there to help clean it up. Really, really good.

+ I’ve only rewatched the 1H and we did not attempt to get pressure with anything but our front four. Not even really any stunts or anything—just straight rush in their presnap lanes. It appeared more of a “contain” rush and if the goal was to not let Joseph beat us with his legs, you can certainly check that box. We kept him in the pocket and made him throw. Credit to him and Grimes, he hit on a couple, but a D1 QB and OC are going to scheme a few things open even against the best secondaries. I’d imagine more creativity going forward against more pocket passers.

+ Remember when we were thinking Luke Fickell might be our HC? That dude has no stones. I couldn’t be a Wisconsin fan. That guy played not to get blown out in the 2H instead of playing to compete for a win…and he got shithoused. Total loser ball.
 

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Giving up a home game for something called Shamrock, playing in the opponents home state, and giving up 50+% of the tickets is dumb.

Also what the fuck ND fans, start showing up for your team. And also FU to the countless dorks who buy up season tickets for nothing other than to sell them at a premium to the highest bidder with a lot of times being the opposition.
 

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Giving up a home game for something called Shamrock, playing in the opponents home state, and giving up 50+% of the tickets is dumb.

Also what the fuck ND fans, start showing up for your team. And also FU to the countless dorks who buy up season tickets for nothing other than to sell them at a premium to the highest bidder with a lot of times being the opposition.
I mean I thought we had a pretty good turnout last night. The difference, per usual, was that their uniforms and gear in the stands were bright red and ours were dark blue.
 

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They need to get Bubba involved, Toney was a 3 star no reason why he can’t play. I feel like our staff holds some of these younger guys hostage.
Was my thought exactly. Has to be worth a shot to give him a dig or drag route and see what that looks like. Greathouse or Graham will have bigger days, but get a guy with a different gear a few snaps a game if we're not getting enough out of that spot.
 

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Not sure anyone has called this out yet, but was anyone else fuming at the timeouts Freeman was calling before the half? Showed absolutely zero logic or feel for the game in doing so. Love Freeman, coached a great game overall, but these type of things drive me nuts. Aggressiveness for the sake of aggressiveness can get them killed against superior competition

I love the aggressiveness and confidence it shows in your defense, but the move has backfired on him before. Still, i'll take that every day over Kelly/Fickell ball.
 

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Giving up a home game for something called Shamrock, playing in the opponents home state, and giving up 50+% of the tickets is dumb.

Also what the fuck ND fans, start showing up for your team. And also FU to the countless dorks who buy up season tickets for nothing other than to sell them at a premium to the highest bidder with a lot of times being the opposition.
I thought it was close to 50 50 in the stadium
 

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I just want to know what happened with Greathouse
Likewise. 6 yards receiving on 1 catch. I find it pretty alarming that he was hardly targeted. Starting to have questions about his ability to separate. Not giving up on him so please no one argue with me about that. But we need dudes that can separate and get open consistently for Carr. Carr can sling it downfield. Felt Faison and Graham did that best last night. Truly want to see Frazier/Premer. Liked what I saw from Flanagan/Flanigan however feel Premer could be far more explosive.
 

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I’m also in wait and see mode, but I think last night was more due to scheme and game flow. They didn’t push the ball downfield and also ran a ton of 12 personnel in the 2nd half.

We wanted to know if we have a legit #1 WR and we do in Faison. I think we’ll have enough for solid 2/3 options amongst Graham, Greathouse and Gilbert + our two awesome pass catching backs.

Also, I had to double check but I’m pretty positive Graham had a catch and it’s not in the box score. I thought it was a short hitch route at the top of the screen in the second half, no?

I believe you're right unless there was another penalty on that play as well. I remember three targets: big catch (holding), the one you referenced, and the Carr over throw down the sideline.
 

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I mean I thought we had a pretty good turnout last night. The difference, per usual, was that their uniforms and gear in the stands were bright red and ours were dark blue.


Exactly - you can safely and easily assume that everyone wearing red in the stands was a Wisconsin fan and the 50% or greater group not wearing red was a ND fan. It was most of the crowd.

One issue I have with it being a nominal "home game" is playing Jump Around in the 3rd/4th quarter break. Absolutely unacceptable.
 

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Like Miami for CJ last year, I feel the training wheels were on in the first half for the OL. I think the running backs are all very good, just not elite. But good enough to grow and win a lot of games. We’ve been spoiled.

Didn’t really open it up on the outside, but Faison looked slick AF out there.

Shilelagh was laying wood out there. Very impressive.

Thought Wiscy was playing faster at the start, I really didn’t see them beating us up physically like Garrett was shit talking, but the second half was different. We started delivering the blows and imposed their will on them physically.

Going to be very interesting moving forward. Unlike Miami last year, the mistakes were made by aggression, not confusion. Should be easy to clean up.
1-0. Let’s go.
Much more that the offense looked tentative and Wisconsin was playing aggressively-jumping screen routes & blitzing- than them kicking our ass physically.
 

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Giving up a home game for something called Shamrock, playing in the opponents home state, and giving up 50+% of the tickets is dumb.

Also what the fuck ND fans, start showing up for your team. And also FU to the countless dorks who buy up season tickets for nothing other than to sell them at a premium to the highest bidder with a lot of times being the opposition.
The stadium was 50/50, it just doesn’t look like that on TV because the red stands out more. The crowd was loud at the beginning of the game, then went into nervous mode and got quiet, then got loud again in the 2nd half. They were fine.
 
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