Who do you want to replace Brian Kelly?

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Is Sanford even on the radar as a possible replacement --- or is he still too green?
 
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Kingbish01 said:
True, but take away this year he has done WAAAAY better than Fleck (who is an 8-5 coach with one good year) over the last 4 years. And look at everyone on Flecks nutties, BK may have worn out his welcome at ND, but I have no doubt in my mind he can still win a lot of football games. Nobody plays D in the Pac and he can recruit anyone he wants to play for him. He would be a great hire for them.
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IMO, that'd be a PR nightmare for Oregon. Firing a 4-8 coach that is universally respected and an all-around good guy. Hiring a 4-8 coach that is just the opposite and lampooned for it. If that happened, I think Oregon would soon be hiring a new AD. Plus, Kelly would be at Petrino-level when it comes to credibility.

I get your point as far as scheme and lack of D...but PR-wise...ugh.
 
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dublinirish said:
he's not on the radar for any jobs after this past season i'd say. He was a hot property last year, not now.
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Bruce Feldman: Curious to see if Jim Mora and #UCLA make a run at #NotreDame's Mike Sanford to become Bruins new OC.
 
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Irishize said:
Bruce Feldman: Curious to see if Jim Mora and #UCLA make a run at #NotreDame's Mike Sanford to become Bruins new OC.
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HC jobs I should have said. He might get a look/interviews for OC gigs on the west coast alright.
 
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If there is a coaching change - my biggest request is to retain HH and that HH wants to stay. Everyone else, i'm ok with if they don't come back. Not saying i don't like them, I just think HH is a guy that recruits flock to for the most part.
 
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Rack Em said:
Even if he believes he has "zero culpability" you at least sack up and say "Hey, we realized that we didn't emphasize academics enough for some of the players and we've taken steps to make sure they all feel comfortable with their academic workload. It's not easy being an ND football player, so the coaching staff is going to up our support of the academic programs so our players get a top notch education and football experience."
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I don't know how the question was put to him, about his culpability in the scandal, only that his answer was, "Zero. None." Without knowing the wording of the question, it's hard for me to say how appropriate his answer was.
 
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kmoose said:
I don't know how the question was put to him, about his culpability in the scandal, only that his answer was, "Zero. None." Without knowing the wording of the question, it's hard for me to say how appropriate his answer was.
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Does it really matter? The optics are terrible with that answer either way. Kelly went from being an annoying politician behind the podium to giving zero fucks up there.
 
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Rack Em said:
Does it really matter? The optics are terrible with that answer either way. Kelly went from being an annoying politician behind the podium to giving zero fucks up there.
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Yes, it matters. If the reporter says to Kelly, "You know, Coach, there's speculation that your culpability in this is as much as 80-90%. How much culpability do you think you have?" Then, "Zero. None." is an appropriate answer, as is the revocation of that "journalist"s credentials. Obvious troll jobs are part and parcel of the internet experience, but have no place in Notre Dame press conferences.

And it would be ESPECIALLY appropriate if the actual question asked was, "Coach, the process of investigating these matters drug on for months and months, what influence did you have on that process, to have it wrapped up a little quicker?" And then he says, "Zero. None." And I wouldn't put it past the "journalists" to then print the story that Brian Kelly denied any culpability in the scandal, using that quote WAY out of context.
 
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Kingbish01 said:
True, but take away this year he has done WAAAAY better than Fleck (who is an 8-5 coach with one good year) over the last 4 years. And look at everyone on Flecks nutties, BK may have worn out his welcome at ND, but I have no doubt in my mind he can still win a lot of football games. Nobody plays D in the Pac and he can recruit anyone he wants to play for him. He would be a great hire for them.
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To me, the more likely scenario in the Pac-10 would be Kelly to Cal if Dykes leaves for Baylor.
 
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Jack is lending Kelly the plane to go interview at Oregon....get out from under that contract so we can hire Les Miles.

Jack then drops academic standards, and joins Big10.


I then win the lotto, become a huge booster, and they name the field "IrishBroker field"
 
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beryirish said:
If there is a coaching change - my biggest request is to retain HH and that HH wants to stay. Everyone else, i'm ok with if they don't come back. Not saying i don't like them, I just think HH is a guy that recruits flock to for the most part.
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Just out of curiosity, all accounts have graded NDs oline graded out as under performing, I realize the players love Harry, what game since 2012 can you honsetly say. Boy our oline really pushed their D around? The zone blocking scheme isnt a great fit for an oline thats 2 deep with 4 and 5 star guys. To me HH is overvalued and the oline is super soft
 
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Just out of curiosity, all accounts have graded NDs oline graded out as under performing, I realize the players love Harry, what game since 2012 can you honsetly say. Boy our oline really pushed their D around? The zone blocking scheme isnt a great fit for an oline thats 2 deep with 4 and 5 star guys. To me HH is overvalued and the oline is super soft
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I think that's Kelly's offense dictating scheme. Hiestand has a reputation of a great O line coach going on for well over 20 years. If you want them to maul, Harry will get them to maul.
 
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koonja said:
Would that be bad? I know recruits love him but I have no idea how good he is as a DC. I didn't watch a single Oregon game in the last 2 years and don't know if they're 5-7 or 9-3.
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His defense was worse than BVG's. Let that sink in.

It's 126th in the nation.
 
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koonja said:
Would that be bad? I know recruits love him but I have no idea how good he is as a DC. I didn't watch a single Oregon game in the last 2 years and don't know if they're 5-7 or 9-3.
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one of the worst defenses in ncaa this year....but he didn't have much to work with
 
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koonja said:
Would that be bad? I know recruits love him but I have no idea how good he is as a DC. I didn't watch a single Oregon game in the last 2 years and don't know if they're 5-7 or 9-3.
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Average defense ppg: 41.4 surrendered 50+ pts in 4 games.
ND: 27.8
 
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koonja said:
Would that be bad? I know recruits love him but I have no idea how good he is as a DC. I didn't watch a single Oregon game in the last 2 years and don't know if they're 5-7 or 9-3.
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Well, they went 4-8 and fired their HC.
 
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arahop said:
Just out of curiosity, all accounts have graded NDs oline graded out as under performing, I realize the players love Harry, what game since 2012 can you honsetly say. Boy our oline really pushed their D around? The zone blocking scheme isnt a great fit for an oline thats 2 deep with 4 and 5 star guys. To me HH is overvalued and the oline is super soft
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We go round and round over this. Is HH under performing because he's forced to recruit and prep a line for Kelly's O... with Kelly dictating who he's to recruit? How much autonomy does HH have in who he's bringing in? If ND hired Brett Bielema tomorrow, would HH go out and recruit 6-4, 335lb road grading guards and quit converting 4-5 star LT's to the interior?

Is the problem HH, is it HH in this system or is it HH in this system combined with Kelly's interference?
 
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His defense was worse than BVG's. Let that sink in.

It's 126th in the nation.
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PANDFAN said:
one of the worst defenses in ncaa this year....but he didn't have much to work with
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beryirish said:
Average defense ppg: 41.4 surrendered 50+ pts in 4 games.
ND: 27.8
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NDRock said:
Well, they went 4-8 and fired their HC.
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Thanks for the info, I truly don't pay attention to the pac 12 besides USC/Stanford. I bet we lock him up with a 10 year contract based on the above facts.
 
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zelezo vlk said:
I think that's Kelly's offense dictating scheme. Hiestand has a reputation of a great O line coach going on for well over 20 years. If you want them to maul, Harry will get them to maul.
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This is exactly right. Bunch of Tennessee fans wanted HH run out of town and it was debated on message boards like many are doing now. This is a part of a quote that they believe came from former Packer OL Chad Clifton
https://loserwithsocks.wordpress.com/2011/12/13/fire-hiestand/

Dont care what anyone says. If UT runs off Harry, who are they gonna get? You people dont understand. The Head COACH and OC determines what kind of Scheme that he supposed to be teaching the OLINE. Its not the other way around. Do your research before you blame it on Harry. He doesnt call the plays, and hes not the one that wants to use a Zone blocking Scheme. Hes doing what hes told. Zone blocking is about 70% Pass blocking.
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Bottom line is HH is one of the most respected OL coaches in the nation. If you want the OL to maul people, the head coach and the OC need to change the scheme
 
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